Meadow of Sorrow Mafia - Game Over! Town Wins

[Blackberry]

OMG IM SO SORRY I COMPLETELY FORGOT ABOUT THIS GAME, I'LL READ + POST AFTER I GET BACK FROM MY INTERVIEW TODAY!!

Blackberry

[Blackberry]

I love how I completely forgot about this game (again) until earlier today and nobody has prodded me...

I still haven't read the game and have no idea what's going on...

And once again it's late and I must be going to bed...

*Adds to my Watched Topic List*

TOMORROW, I PROMISE, *hates myself*

[Blackberry]

Wuffles smells like scum to me so far from his posts on the first few pages I'm reading. I may be slow cuz Im watching TV at the same time, but eventually I'll get through all the pages, lol.

DISCLAIMER: My nose is not related to AniX's nose...

[Blackberry]

I've barely read and Im looking at deaths and wondering if DAMNED means vigilante?? Cuz STD wasn't SATANIC, meaning he wasn't evil, he was just destined to go to hell aka VIG??? Not sure...

MOD: It would help if the front list said when people were killed (at the bottem)

[Blackberry]

blah, im done for now... here is a summary of my notes:

Thesp -- probably not Criminal

spectrumvoid -- probably town

klebian -- potential scum

dahan -- most likely town

Zind -- mixed feelings on him / bein connected with statusquo ... scum?

TS -- wanted to vote claimed cop but didnt read entirely... cant read?

Fritzler -- hard guy to read, QUICKLY joined THREE pro-town lynch wagons... scum? ... but not Satanic

skruffs -- not sure, defended HuriKitty ... town?

Kaleidoscope/mert -- i have no notes on this person? =P

......

Ok, so now Im confused cuz cream claimed he killed STD, which means STD wasnt vig but a mafia/SK ... ahhhhhhhh *confused*

[Blackberry]

Fritzler, reveal your true alignment and I'll bring a hot chick friend to MoS Faire ... ??

[Blackberry]

Fritzler, reveal your true alignment and I'll bring a hot chick friend to MoS Faire ... ??

pro-town

with ak-47s

it makes perfect sense if you know pariah as well as i do

zindy obviously doesn't

he doesn't go in water[/quote

AK-47??? Did you claim to bein a vigilante or something?? *intrigued and interested in reading the rest of the forum that i didnt finish*

[Blackberry]

my last post is all effed up and confuses me ... here was MY response:

AK-47??? Did you claim to bein a vigilante or something?? *intrigued and interested in reading the rest of the forum that i didnt finish*

[Blackberry]

I somewhat/kinda believe Fritzler. It goes along with my STD was vig theory... thou it still concerns me he was killed by the cop-thing. And if any mafia is smart they'll get rid of him tonight anyways cuz he claimed two kills one on two different sides. So he is either SK or VIG and if I were mafia I'd get rid of him. So I say we don't lynch Fritzler as we could use him to kill on behalf ot the town to get rid of scum while the scum can either take Fritzler out a spare a townie/other town-roles or keep him alive as the town's extra-killing tool.

Intersting to note STD is the only person to be found as Evil (Damned/Criminal/Satanic) by BOTH investigation groups (Police + Church).

[Blackberry]

Having no vote is too boring. Have me prodded if you need anything from me. Sayonara for now.

This quote seems scummy. Hez's psychic waves have informed me TS is scum...

Vote: Toaster Strudel

[Blackberry]

Sorry for my absence.

This quote seems scummy. Hez's psychic waves have informed me TS is scum...

Vote: Toaster Strudel

This is bizarre.

FOS: Blackberry.

For your consideration ^.^
Vote : Thesp
Unless there's a way to prove that a vote stealer is town.

That's sort of a high standard to set, isn't it?

Thesp, you're mad. First you push for a Fritz lynch, calling him a liar. Then you say he is OK based on that he wouldn't have a side to help win. Why so sure that it is not a lie too? Then you go for me because you don't understand my role.

His wording about sides seems unlikely to have been made up. I'm voting you not because I don't understand your role, I don't understand why you'd

use

your role as pro-town.

*takes notes that Thesp is defending TS and that Thesp is voting someone I'm pretty confident in pro-tiwn.*

[Blackberry]

Blackberry, I asked you this before.

Why are you not voting Fritzler?

A: Wtf is up with people saying I haven't answered this question. Ever since I've came back top Mafia EVERY game somebody asks me why I didn't answer their question when I feel like I already did. *thinks everybody is stupid* JK

B: AS I'VE SAID BEFORE, we KNOW he isn't Satanic

C: I believe his claim, either way, we can control him from now on by telling him what to do, and if he doesn't we can lynch him.

D: I think others are scum / not him

[Blackberry]

I agree completely with Blackberry on this one.

I believe Fritzler's claim. Even IF he really is a SK he has done a good job so far of taking out satanics and I would much rather hang a satanic. I'm suspcious of those who prefer a Fritzler lynch since we know very well that a Friztler lynch will NOT lynch a satanic and we know that Fritzler has caused the deaths of two satanics. Unless somebody wants to counter-claim those kills.

I didn't even think of that. I just remember the Satanic Cop saying Fritz isn't satanic.

[Blackberry]

Read my sig.

Read my mind.

lol

TS -- I demand you reveal your scum partners at once. And we won't lynch you today if you do.

[Blackberry]

o.O *oinks*

[Blackberry]

o.O *oinks*

This is your rebuttal?

Why are you not voting Fritzler?

If you're so goddamn sure that Fritzler is town, rebut my arguments.

klebian's either an idiot or he's scum. Or both.

I BELIEVE HIM FRICKING CLAIM AND I THINK WE CAN USE HIM TO KILL FOR US AT NIGHT. ARE YOU AFRAID OF HIM KILLNG YOU AT NIGHT??

unvote, Vote: Zindaras

scummmy scum bucketslicious o.O

[Blackberry]

Me wants to vote Kaleidoscope now. DAHEN IS THE MOST CONFIRMED PRO-TOWN PLAYER, DID YOU NOT READ MY POST!?!?

Unvote, Vote: Kaleidoscope

[Blackberry]

EBWOP: Explain, also, what the Criminals are, what their kill is, why Fritzler's not a criminal.

*yawns* Why are you questioning me? You're getting annoying.

Fritzler, can you kill Zindy tonight if neither of you get lynched?

*hugs Fritzler and sends a prostitute to him*

[Blackberry]

Fritzler can kill for us.

He has claimed kills/killed two enemies.

I believe that STD was a viglante/hinted at vig and Fritzler's claim clarifies that he was simular to STD.

[Blackberry]

Would it be safe to assume that STD crucified?

Thus the Criminals Ash people / burn them.

Iunno.

Hmmm I guess it's a good point about the kills, then again I truley believe DAMNED to be vigilante. Cuz it implies they are doing something bad but not necessraily evil. A MURDERER was criminal and I can see a murderer doing any of the following actually : crucifying, ash(burning?) or pentagoning? lol...

Ash more likely seems Satanic now and Pentagon = Murderer/Criminal pretending to be witches??? lol *cries cuz im half-confused*

[Blackberry]

OK SO IF WE ENTERTAIN THE IDEA STD = VIG...

Then STD Crucified...

that leaves: ashed, shot, pentagram

FRITZ VIG = shot

SATANIC = ashed?

CRIMINAL/MURDERER = pentagram?

*nods* Was there anything supernatural about pentagram murders? *too lazy to go look myself*

[Blackberry]

Crucifixion isn't something a Criminal does (because the criminals are apparently also churchy, see TSQ's role).

Crucifixtion IS something a CHURCH does. We KNOW Church is related to Criminals. Thus Criminals = Crucifixtion.

[Blackberry]

*cries*

*beginning to think Fritzler may be scum*

QUESTION FOR ZINDY

-- how do you go from Fritzler being CRIMINAL to saying FRITZLER is being SK? (unless you yourself are criminal and thus think/know he is a SK)...

PS: Someone said I didn't suggest who Fritzler to kill when I indeed have (Zindy).

[Blackberry]

i thought the exorcist had a crucifix, grrr, this is so confusing... *bites myself and then goes to reread the kills things*

[Blackberry]

Do you smell that?

It's oil.

Old Bess, the grandmother of seven and mother of the local reverend is smothered in it, tied to the stake, quiet as a stone.

The holy man addressed her.

"Read to us the Lord's prayer,

witch,

lest we burn you alive."

She simply stared down to the straw surronding her feet and her inevitable fate.

"So be it. She has confessed through silence. Burn her alive; leave no ash behind. She is one of many of the Satanic forces gathering in groups, to destroy all that we have created here today. She is one of the ones leaving our families in the meadow."

The roaring flames consumed her body, mixed with her horrifying screams. An outline of pain and a billow of smoke streaked the sky as the holy man tipped his hat down to the Earth and sighed.

"It's a sad day when you have to cremate your own mother for crimes against humanity," the holy man remarked, as he walked off into the distance.

It grew dark, and most went to bed.

But some do not sleep. Some wait.

And smile as the moon rises.

It is now Night One. Send in your night roles if you have them, and even if you don't, send in a confirmation. Night will not end until we have all the confirmations in. You do not need a role target to confirm.

If you do not confirm in a resonable amount of time, you may be replaced.

Church = Burning = Ashes

Church = Criminals

Criminals = Ashing

Fritzler ≠ Criminal

[Blackberry]

i give up

i still don't think fritzler is scum cuz i was right about STD hinting at vig and Fritzler further prooved my hypothesis

*throws pie at someone*

[Blackberry]

The meadow...blood covers it tonight. The earth cries out due to the stain from

Primate's

defiled body. The carrier of the soul, the vessel of life, the heart was carved out his chest with a tiny, sharp knife and carved into the shape of a pentagram.

They went to drag his corpse to the cemetery...upon touching the consecrated ground, it broke into flames and turned to ash, blown away by the wind into dust.

The local investigation by the cities' basic police station, if you could call it that, found him to be a simple

town aligned puritan.

The church agreed with this sentiment and mourned his passing.

CPE confirmed this ashing too? I thought i read that he ashed if the person he investigated was evil.

[Blackberry]

Here are all my notes:


Thesp (Formerly RangeroftheNorth)
* instigated full claim from Kitty (299)
* statusquo wanted lynched (326)

5. spectrumvoid
* first unvoted Cop-Claimer … scum would lurk (IMO)

6. Klebian (Formerly Wuffles_II)


8. dahen (Formerly marli)
* voted by scum (Bogre)
* quickly followed TSQ (scum) wagon

10. Zindaras (Formerly Three Word Name)
* commented on TSQ/wuffles
* 63
* (210)
* hmmm, 221, statusquo voted him
* attacked 231
*asked fritz who to vote (odd, cant read?)
* voted TSQ then quickly changed to Olio after someone else voted TSQ

11. Toaster Strudel
* wanted to vote claimed cop?

18. Fritzler
* ignored TSQ/wuffles
* Fritz isn’t satanic (185)
* hopped on me (215)
* quickly voted Kitty (279)
* quickly joined Olio wagon

19. Skruffs (Formerly Illumina)
*lurked/lazy (88)
* defended hurikitty (town)

20. KaleiÐoscøpe (Formerly Mert)


7. Thestatusquo killed Night 2
Church Findings: Reverend, Town Aligned
Investigation Findings: Murderer, Criminal Aligned


15. Save The Dragons killed Night 2
Church Findings: Teacher, Damned Aligned
Investigation Findings: Teacher, Damned Aligned
* Hints at Vig? (171) – though I disagree with what he said
* Hint at VIG: 211
* cream countered my idea (396)

4. Bogre
Church Findings: Blackleg, Satanic Aligned
Investigation Findings: Confidence Man, Town Aligned

[Blackberry]

i was postin my notes to support my Dahen is protown and my STD maybe was Vig

[Blackberry]

I felt that I had to answer it all the same. Also, the whole dahen thing's good, but that just means that he's not Satanic or Criminal. He could still be SK or Cult or something.

Cult = we're probably screwed

SK = something we don't need to worry about right now when we have two scum groups....

[Blackberry]

Fritzler -- can you explain your role further? Or just a recap...

Whats people's thoughts on TS?

[Blackberry]

After thinking things over. I do indeed believe Fritzler may very well be Criminal Mafia... Though I don't quite understand why he would claim it.

[Blackberry]

After thinking things over. I do indeed believe Fritzler may very well be Criminal Mafia... Though I don't quite understand why he would claim it.

thumper

im not

you know me

Fritzy, the kill methods don't make sense.

I do know: Fritz likes being vig, thus it could mean he also likes claiming vig.

PROS OF KEEPING FRITZ ALIVE: We can FORCE him to direct the kills, whether they really are from vig/sk or from mafia ... (plus I know he won't kill me, LOL)

Also: If he is sk/vig the mafia should take care of him tonight. Thou both mafias are going to end up thinking the other will do it and thus Fritzler will survive... (aka both mafias should target Fritz, for if he is SK he might have immunity and it could take a double-kill to kill him)

[Blackberry]

intuition wants me to go for TS cuz he hasn't done anything pro-town-worthy...

Unvote, Vote: TS

[Blackberry]

*bashes head on wall*

Skruffs, spectrumvoid, I want you two to rebuttal my argument against Fritzler or vote him.

thump and i already did

stop voitng pro-town people

thx

Fritzler I can't decide what to do...

Question: If someone stole Fritz' guns, does that mean he loses his ability?

[Blackberry]

Skruffs is acting like scum. He changes his vote when he realizes his logic is wrong. And when he is threatened. O_o

[Blackberry]

Whatever.

You are

so

going to regret this.

Unvote, Vote: Skruffs

. In PK games, you usually don't need majority at deadline, but let's not take risks.

Hey Fritz, mind killing Scope or Klebian tonight? Cursed lurkers.

I'm amused by everyone going "But we can control Fritzler's kill!" and then completely ignoring Fritzler's kill for the rest of the day.

FRITZLER: I would like a TS or Zind kill.

SPECTRUM: I too am somewhat confused on Thesp's allignment of stealing votes and whatnot. Why would a pro-towner do that? O_o I remember I was scum once with a power like that and our plan was to steal our partner's vote so that no one would suspect the two of us beign together (Note: that was a loooooooong time ago, iunno what game it was in thou ).

[Blackberry]

So Thesp was killed by a pentagon thing, and he was a criminal (to both investigations ??? this gets me confused...). Thus the criminal method must be ... shooting? Thus Fritzler is a criminal maybe?? Or criminals didn't choose to kill in order to make Fritzler look like a criminal??? Cuz I still like my Damned = Vig theory.

Thesp saying he was going to "prove" Skruffs and him "proving" TS still bothers me and I'm inclined to believe atleast one of them is bad guy with Thesp?

...

TS trying to "prove" his vote by voting a dead person... wtf? It seems slightly suspiscious yet at the same time ... would you really do something that obvious or was it a mistake? Ahhh. TS try voting someone else and see if it counts.

Let me go back and read to see who suggested Klebian as a kill...

[Blackberry]

So ZINDY suggested scope or klebian and Fritz choose klebian... ahhhhhhhh.

[Blackberry]

I think TS is scum. I find it odd that others are avoiding the topic (with the exception of Dahen) that Thesp was evil and he claimed to clear TS by taking his vote. I think Thesp decided to take TS's vote to make TS look innocent.

At the same time, I do believe the case against Fritzler is true.

I'm leaning toward Fritzler being a S/K and TS = scum with Thesp?

[Blackberry]

I would like it much much more if the Mod put how a person died on the front page... lol.

[Blackberry]

i like my Thesp/TS theory...

Vote: TS

[Blackberry]

I believe someone else was ashed in the first night ...

But I appreciate you taking time to make that ...

I just realized that Fritzler claiming a name does indeed strike me as odd. I hadn't really paid attention to that previously. I now think Fritzler is scum... I'm leaning toward Serial Killer though, because I believe he's killed one from each scum group, yes??

BUT we can control him to a degree in case he really is a vigilante (I'm just saying this so he thinks we still trust him, but in all honesty I think he is SK, but there is a really small chance he is Vig )....

I'm not sure what to do at this point. Fritzler did stick to his word before.

I still think TS is scum cuz of Thesper... though I don't believe BigAl's claim nor do I believe Dahen's.... -_- Which basically means I don't trust anyone that has claimed... lol... which is why this game is confusing.

I'm not 100% sure what to do about Fritzler, I want to hear Dahen, BigAl's and TS's opinion on him...

SKRUFFS --- I don't understand why my name is bolded at the end of post 881.

[Blackberry]

SKRUFFS --- why is TS cleared of having any abilities? A SCUM person cleared him... Who is to say Thesp wasn't just a VOTE THEIF?


After rereading stuff I can buy Dahen's claim... I didn't realize he said he could kill people if they accepted.

[Blackberry]

Fritzler -- I think he is SK...

Skruffs -- Appears pro-town to me...

BigAl -- I don't buy his claim...

Dahen -- I go back to my stance that I think he is pro-town...

TS -- I don't like the fact a scum person "cleared you", I think you're scum...

SV -- Same as Skruffs...

[Blackberry]

Strengthens my reasons to disbelieve BigAl.

[Blackberry]

Unvote, Vote: BigAl

A) I think you were fishing for a townie claim when you asked TS his role, hopeing you could copy off of it.
B) Plebian is not one of the first seven roles... thus you claimed something not already claimed cuz you knew we would be on to you... yet it doesn't fit with what your replaceee said.
C) You want to Lynch Fritzler, even though I think you already proved he can't be criminal or satanic...

[Blackberry]

I agree Fritz is SK, but why lynch the SK?

[Blackberry]

I want to hear what night you investigated who...

[Blackberry]

I don't think Dahen is scum. He is one of the few that has sense and wants to go after someone else rather than Fritzler the "SK".

I could easily see Skruffs as scum with TS, bigAl or SV because he keeps wanting to go after Dahen or Fritzler.

bigAl's claim is completely false and doesn't match with what he said earlier. The fact that nobody else is concerned about this furthers my suspiscion.

Anyway, I'm a

town aligned plebian

, vanilla townie. Same role name as Primate,

so I was thinking that all of the vanilla townies had the same role name.

I wanted to see if TS had the same role name also. Since he doesn't, it doesn't necessarily mean that he's lying,

just that I might have beleived it more if he was

. Hmmm...

bigAl contradicts himself. He first says he wanted to hear TS's role in assumption it was the same as his (and a dead player), aka bigAl was fishing for the "vanilla townie" role that he assumed was in the first top 7, when he realized it wasn't, he invented another P name and make up an excuse. Yet he would have believed the claim more if it had matched the deceased... when his claimed-name isn't matching the deceased??

[Blackberry]

How are my suspiscions coming far out of left field? Because I'm not conforming to the rest of the town of an easy SK lynch of Fritzler or Dahen who I don't particularly find that scummy?

[Blackberry]

You didn't answer my question.

[Blackberry]

Hey I'll post later tonight, I gotta get going right now thou, sorry.

[Blackberry]

I want dahen's target to confirm and then I'll consider dahen pretty much 100% cleared.

I'm confident scum is either Skruffs or TS, I need to reread the stuff though and look at how they intereacted with other players.

Wouldn't a rolechanger/alignment-changer be a cult? But then why not just call them cult?

[Blackberry]

I didn't get the item -_-

[Blackberry]

I'm not going to claim.

TS and/or SKRUFFS is/are scum. Dahen is confirmed, I believe SV's claim. TS's voting me without much discussion makes me lean toward him. But Skruffs' post makes me think he is scum trying to APPEAR town.

[Blackberry]

I don't know what to say. Either TS or Skruffs or both are scum. I'm not going to claim. I still can't tell which of the two is scum.

Tell me what you want me to defend against and I'll try to defend myself. I'm a pro-town player. I have an odd play style, I will admit that. I DON'T believe in Lynch All Liars and I don't like people claiming because that's not the REAL spirit of the game, the game is about suspiscion and reading people, NOT who is the best bullshitter or whose claim sounds believable and whose doesn't.

[Blackberry]

But SV is cleared because you believe her claim.
You were pretty sure that bigAl's claim was completely false. This was a large reason why you were suspicious of him.
You believed Dahen's claim. You are not suspicious of Dahen. You were, yesterday though.
You thought Fritzler's name-claiming was odd.

Even in your notes, you refer to people's claims - and other people's reactions to claims - a good deal.

So it's not fair to use everyone else's claims for your own personal opinion-forming, but refuse to share your own. That's not how this game was worked, up until now.

I'm not scum. Your biggest suspicion of me is that I am scum trying to act pro town. You said taht you don't trust anyone in this game, and now you are sure it's either me or TS.

I'm asking for your opinion about TS. If you actually have something, it's worth talking about with everyone in the town. Maybe you have something, and maybe you don't. You were right abuot bigAl, when I wasn't suspicious of him at all.

That's exactly why I don't like claims. They make the game too easy and instead of the game being about logic it becomes "who can be the best bullshitter." I don't have anything (i assume you mean fact-based such as a night choice). TS unvoting me surprises me to be honest. I personally don't think it makes alot of sense. If anything Skruffs, I'm most suspiscious of you because you took the whole "ok let's wait for Blackberry" approach to make yourself seem less scummy. Then again maybe TS unvoted because he didn't want to seem like scum. I honsetly can't decide which one of you is more scummier.

THE FACT that you asked if I knew anything makes me

Nvm, I misread your post, I assume now you mean game-wise like I had against bigAl, in that case, I'm not sure what I have on TS. I really should go back and reread. As should everyone else.

[Blackberry]

One of you is scum, that is pretty much a fact TS.

[Blackberry]

A: I never breadcrumb.

B: I still refuse to claim.

C: At the moment, TS is striking me as the most scummy. He continues to attack me while Skruffs takes a look back and considers all points of views. Town-players would be/should be willing to consider everything while all TS does is continue and continue to bash me as scum. Hell, I'm 95% convinced TS is scum. That or Skruffs is doing a good job. So right now I'm positive on TS.

D: Looking back, something strikes me as odd for SpectrumVoid. He claimed that players had "changed alignments" (all Satanics) yet later he says "is it possible Satanics aren't scum"... If SV's powers were real and he knew they were changed wouldn't you KNOW they weren't scum because you "knew" they were changed? .... (im refering to post 1005)...

E: I'm starting to lean toward some sort of SV/TS scum (together or seperate)? Both seem to want to go for the easy lynch (me)... apparently I'm an easy lynch in every game I'm in and I always given the same crap that I never back my accusations up or something and I say f*$@ you... lol.

[Blackberry]

Skruffs isn't scum obviously. If dahen is by some small chance scum he now has his chance to waste me (I don't believe he has been on since the second vote, has he?)

TS + SV is/are scum, either together or seperate or one or the other.

I'm all for TS being the lynch for today, as I was right the first time I said this. It makes perfect sense with the vote-stealing. Steal your own partner's vote to make that person look cleared. SV's lack of posts today brings me closer to the conclusion that they are BOTH scum TOGETHER. And I suspect that if dahen doesn't hammer me that they'll be like "see nobody hammered Blackberry, thus he is scum" as their new ammo.

TS screams scum in my opinion, all SHE constantly does is PULL AND PULL at the point that I won't claim and that's all the ammo SHE has. So she keeps tugging and tugging and pushing and pushing and pulling and pulling. She tugs and tugs and pushes and pulls and punches and keeps pulling at the same point... (lol)

(PS: I apologize for not paying attention to genderness).

Then again, if dahen is scum, we're f$&ked and I wanna say yall suck and should learn not to make the game about claiming, lol.

[Blackberry]

I am not a townie, nor do I have any information that can aid you all. Also, it would not aid the mafia/scum to kill me tonight if I SURVIVE.

...

That is a breadcrum/hint.... LOL.

[Blackberry]

Also, I'm not claiming traitor, I just realized it might make one think I'm a traitor. I am not anti-town. I am also not pro-town... lol.

[Blackberry]

Neutral survivor?

correct

[Blackberry]

There sure was no reason for withholding the claim all this time! Haha.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that line right there basically says you know my claim is true, thus you must be scum.

[Blackberry]

To be honest I was actually hopeing I'd to win with Fritzler cuz I like him and it woulda been cool. It's practically confirmed right now that TS/SV are scum since neither dahen nor Skruffs have lynched me when both have had the oppurtunity.

TS is scum and he is pissin me off with his incoherent logic, lol, so I'd prefer he lose.

[Blackberry]

Fess up to what?

[Blackberry]

a survivor -_-

[Blackberry]

Survivor, No Alignment


...


-_-

[Blackberry]

PS: I do prefer to lynch Mafia because now they know my alignment they may get greedy and could backstab me and kill me if I voted with them...

[Blackberry]

My bad, I thought my vote was already on TS... O_o

Vote: Toastal Stroadal

SPECTRUM:

A) I do believe what I said, claiming is stupid and ruins the game.

B) Knowing im a Survivor, scum are more likely to kill me so they can be greedy and win the game by themselves.

[Blackberry]

I am a male -_-


Skruffs, I am not scum. Lynching me = bad, though I do love TS's image.

[Blackberry]

Are you confessing to being scum SV?

[Blackberry]

Lalalalala.