In post 2238, Titus wrote:A broken heart from me. His read stances are insane. Did you read his ISO without context?
ISO is usually lacking most context to situations, so no.
I mean, he could be scum, but he is likely not informed in any sense of the word I am thinking.
Maybe its too early to pick up associations, but he seemed genuinely not in it with anyone? If that makes sense. The game is early though.
This game may not have traditional partners. Removing scum is key, then find partners if they have a team.
In post 430, KuroiXHF wrote:Why are people voting? This game hasn't even started, have they?
In post 457, KuroiXHF wrote:I can't believe we found scum before the game even began...
I didn't much like either of these posts. I know we've talked a little about the second one but why in the world would you say that...like whats the point?
You also voted TWIE for sheeping but not Luna so that's p strange. Other than that you don't really have anything. So why should I not want your head on a pike?
You know I can't vote more than one person at once, right?
In post 1810, KuroiXHF wrote:First off, a three-person Hydra? I just realized this. Fucking what?
Strong Town:
Lean Town: Dramonic, Almost50, Cane and Able, Tim, ASOIAF, RAM, Expedience
Null/Unsorted: Klingoncelt, Titus, Nosferatu, Stormblade, davesaz, Copper, Lady L, RB, Goofball, BBMolla, Toogeloo, Franky
Lean Scum: Heartless, Salt Squad, No Retreat , Cephrir, TWIE
Strong Scum: Wayward Thinker, Luna
BTW, just realized I'm finally playing a game with my old pal, Nero. Hi Nero!
And yes, my list is really undeveloped. I'm aware.
Underdeveloped my ass
You have Luna as scum, C and A as strong town, me as null, no retreat as scum, heartless as scum and despite Math chainsawing the fuck for you, you forgot she exists
It's just garbage. Total garbage.
No Retreat is scummy, I don't have an opinion on you this game. You're annoying as fuck, but that's NAI. Fine, I forgot about Math because there are a lot of players, Luna screams scum but I'm reviewing her soon, and I strong read no one.
No opinion..really? After gunslingers you have no opinion on me?
After this interaction, I'd now put you at leaning scum.
Context: in Gunslingers, I tunnelled and nailed him hard as scum.
In post 1896, Luna Fox wrote:Honestly in a game this large i dont find it unlikely to miss a claim.... HOWEVER what has been said as me being one of their biggest scumreads = they should be paying more attention to my posts is true.
Post
Post #2254 (isolation #203) » Wed Jul 13, 2016 8:38 pm
Postby Titus »
In post 2251, RAM wrote:Meh, the wagons kinda feel like shit. Kuroi and WT both seem too fucking easy. Lemme see whose not really playing so I can see if they actually have some content to poke them about.
-Cerb
Pedit: no? I was more asking a universal thing, because unless you believe what I said (that someone who your scumread is voting won't be scum), it's not actually relevant to reading the slot, at least not without a bunch more context than JUST the fact that he's voting him.
Cerb, we need 15 to lynch. I get you're stingy with your vote, but please anything but "too easy". With the drama here and stubbornness and lurking/inability to post, we need to focus on uniting.
Obviously, I'm not going to stop you from scumhunting your way, but please keep that in mind.
Post
Post #2306 (isolation #204) » Thu Jul 14, 2016 3:06 am
Postby Titus »
@RB, I think I have said this before. I jumped on Kuroi after WT did it because it was the first wagon on someone that I felt wasn't obvious town. Kuroi later did things that were very scummy in response, which I detailed to RAM. Insisting on one's own pet wagon is terrible at this stage.
@RAM, Your recent posting is confusing to me. You're saying I should be listened to, yet not voting Kuroi and scumreading WT who I have as town. Am I seeing hydra dissonance? Explain please.
Post
Post #2323 (isolation #205) » Thu Jul 14, 2016 3:29 am
Postby Titus »
@RAM, The WT post is the reason the wagon started. I quoted two other posts as examples showing why it grew. Namely, that Kuroi wasn't reading the posts of his alleged scumread, and another to show that Kuroi's reads are not just incomplete but they make no sense.
Second, if you cannot figure out where Cerb is at, please do so in your hydra PT not here. This is where Cerb talking a lot to his hydra partners to get on the same side is an asset. You two cannot bounce back and forth on what each other are saying in a game this large.
Third, I think Cerb DGB and I are nearish melding. I have Nero as lean town. LLD as lean town (but I agreed with DGB at the time of her post). Stormblade I'd lower. We disagree on Cane (now Wake too). Klingon dodgy. Song town. That's 5 reads in a 28 player game. That's a hell of a lot of agreement. I think Cerb is in a similar case.
Post
Post #2341 (isolation #207) » Thu Jul 14, 2016 3:47 am
Postby Titus »
@Nero, Can you put every slot you have a read on into categories like DGB did? I still think you're obvtown, but I am not a fan of what you did (blah blah you don't care blah). I want to see where you are and see if we are melding. I'm basically double checking because DGB has an issue with you.
In post 2337, Titus wrote:@RAM, What's not to like? Everything they said at the time was true.
Oh, just noticed a slight tone change that weirded me out a bit. I thought you were saying you saw something as well, but I guess I again interpret things wrong.
I'd still put Nadhia as Lean Town, though. Just growing paranoia solely due to tone.
Oh, wait. Who are you talking about?
Lmfao, nevermind me I don't know what Titus is saying again.
Post
Post #2370 (isolation #212) » Thu Jul 14, 2016 4:25 am
Postby Titus »
In post 2369, rb wrote:Actually you know what, do it. Switch to me. Get off copper and switch to me right now and do your best to frame me as scum. Gogogo.
Did some rival cowboy shoot you in the butt last night?
Post
Post #2371 (isolation #213) » Thu Jul 14, 2016 4:27 am
Postby Titus »
In post 2370, Expedience wrote:Town: Wayward Thinker, Cephrir, rb, Heartless, Luna Fox
Slight town: Klingoncelt, Almost50, Nosferatu, Stormblade, A Song of Ice and Fire, BBMolla, Toogeloo, DrippingGoofball
Null: dramonic, Salt Squad, Mathblade, davesaz, copper223, Tim, Franky, Wake88, KuroiXHF
Slight scum: Titus, TheWayItEnds, Lady Lambdadelta
Scum: RAM
In post 2397, Titus wrote:Hey Heartless/RAM, I am a genie giving a two for one special.
Vote Kuroi with me.
Short wagon day too.
Your manipulative things like this are kind of a turn off and a pretty significant part of the reason I think you have a good chance of being scum here.
Like wtf, this is out of nowhere.
I'm asking you to read between the lines to create a win win situation. I'm supporting your push on Copper. Like holy fuck.
In post 2407, Heartless wrote:Not really interested in your quid pro quo but thanks anyway.
See,
that
was "mildly upset."
Or "mildly upset" blended with "moderately bitchy."
@Heartless, I get you're upset. I still don't think you get what I am saying and I cannot go explicit or closer because of this being a cult game. I am asking you to trust me, so the game has a shorter D1. Now, you feel I am withholding from you. You're right. I am.
This is a 28 player game. My focus is on building teamwork and getting my townreads to work together.
You're probably right on Copper. You can tell me to fuck off and magic elsewhere an happen. I'm exposing myself to big risk in this game by reaching out to you.
I get you're frustrated at me asking you to take a deep breath just as you feel you're nailing Copper scum. I am listening. I just cannot say what I want to say back.
Do what you have to do. I get it. My branch cannot go further.
I'm sorry.
I'm having a hard time getting strong town reads this game, but Klingy's something i agree shouldn't be anything near strong town, null at best. Why would anyone have them as strong town?
And you're voting RAM because...they have Klingon as scummy...
Post
Post #2440 (isolation #224) » Thu Jul 14, 2016 5:38 am
Postby Titus »
@Luna,
I would give my SOUL for a wagon that you Heartless Song Cerb DGB Nero and I could agree to lynch and a backup. I just cannot get everyone together. I cannot even relay the pressure that I feel and the frustration that people think I am being an uncooperative dick when giving in is less cooperative. Given that if we agreed to this and just acted as a unit, we can have a shorter D1.
I'm not God. I'm not a communicating with people and I may be setting myself up for failure. Believe me. I get you're frustrated. I want nothing more than to keep dragging the best out of people even if they are frustrated.
Mollie told me before Saga everyone is going to be special snowflakey because of roles. Good chance that happens here.
If we can only get one wagon (no spare), then I can do my best to use my view on what the town wants. Queen Titus isn't what Heartless wants though. Yet he has every reason to interpret my actions as more cooperative or less cooperative based on what normal people not knowing what I know.
The best we can do is town hunt, promote each other and do what we can.
It's even more than frustrated.
As he already claimed, we're on the neighborhood which means that
A) He's scum
or
B) He's the same race as me.
And i shouldnt need to get into why he being B and getting lynched scares the heck outta me.
Yes. I understand that. I'm meanwhile tugged in no less than 5 different directions.
Heartless's arguments are sound on Copper.
Kuroi is an obvious scumfuck and has been wagoned by my townreads.
Klingon just needs to die.
Wake is scum.
Math is just pull my hair out.
Like most everyone active and townreading each other agrees on something in here.
Post
Post #2452 (isolation #226) » Thu Jul 14, 2016 5:50 am
Postby Titus »
In post 2452, Luna Fox wrote:Yeah, but the thing is that copper has been very pro-town in my PT, so this kinda makes it hard for me to believe he's actually scum ^^;;
I agree that his points wrt Heartless were pretty bad and i made a comment in the PT about why i think Heartless is town.
Point blank: He needs to be protown where all of us can see it or he will die. It's easier to fool 2 people than 26.
In post 2452, Luna Fox wrote:Yeah, but the thing is that copper has been very pro-town in my PT, so this kinda makes it hard for me to believe he's actually scum ^^;;
I agree that his points wrt Heartless were pretty bad and i made a comment in the PT about why i think Heartless is town.
Point blank: He needs to be protown where all of us can see it or he will die. It's easier to fool 2 people than 26.
Yeah, i understand.
And i'd be specially happy if he flips scum because then everyone of us in the PT can rest easy
But im too nervous coz being wrong here can be devastating.
On a scale of 1 to 10, how bad is it if we're wrong. Do not explain your response. I am going to trust your assessment of the risk.
1 is we mislynched a VT claimer who was defending all scum
10 is all hope is lost for town.
Post
Post #2531 (isolation #229) » Thu Jul 14, 2016 6:57 am
Postby Titus »
@Heartless/Cerb, I am going to stop posting for awhile. If you're hellbent on Copper, keep going. Based on my PM, the structure of the hood, and what Luna has said, I don't feel comfortable with the risk of being wrong. I agree with the only posting in the hood is scummy. I think your read is spot on. I am going to let you do what you need to do.
You've said before that charging forward and believing in my own reads regardless of the risk was bad. That I wasn't listening. I'm asking you to stop.
I have zero authority or logical reason to do so that I can share. It's the last time I will make that request.
In post 430, KuroiXHF wrote:Why are people voting? This game hasn't even started, have they?
In post 457, KuroiXHF wrote:I can't believe we found scum before the game even began...
I didn't much like either of these posts. I know we've talked a little about the second one but why in the world would you say that...like whats the point?
You also voted TWIE for sheeping but not Luna so that's p strange. Other than that you don't really have anything. So why should I not want your head on a pike?
You know I can't vote more than one person at once, right?
In post 1810, KuroiXHF wrote:First off, a three-person Hydra? I just realized this. Fucking what?
Strong Town:
Lean Town: Dramonic, Almost50, Cane and Able, Tim, ASOIAF, RAM, Expedience
Null/Unsorted: Klingoncelt, Titus, Nosferatu, Stormblade, davesaz, Copper, Lady L, RB, Goofball, BBMolla, Toogeloo, Franky
Lean Scum: Heartless, Salt Squad, No Retreat , Cephrir, TWIE
Strong Scum: Wayward Thinker, Luna
BTW, just realized I'm finally playing a game with my old pal, Nero. Hi Nero!
And yes, my list is really undeveloped. I'm aware.
Underdeveloped my ass
You have Luna as scum, C and A as strong town, me as null, no retreat as scum, heartless as scum and despite Math chainsawing the fuck for you, you forgot she exists
It's just garbage. Total garbage.
No Retreat is scummy, I don't have an opinion on you this game. You're annoying as fuck, but that's NAI. Fine, I forgot about Math because there are a lot of players, Luna screams scum but I'm reviewing her soon, and I strong read no one.
No opinion..really? After gunslingers you have no opinion on me?
After this interaction, I'd now put you at leaning scum.
Context: in Gunslingers, I tunnelled and nailed him hard as scum.
In post 1896, Luna Fox wrote:Honestly in a game this large i dont find it unlikely to miss a claim.... HOWEVER what has been said as me being one of their biggest scumreads = they should be paying more attention to my posts is true.
Post
Post #2625 (isolation #235) » Thu Jul 14, 2016 3:06 pm
Postby Titus »
town
Heartless - obvious town. Read his ISO.
Titus - that infuriating woman. Never know when she will open a can of whoop ass, out of obligation.
dramonic - very frustrated town
SS - probably town, but has a few ehhh moments. Would like to see them synergize their reads.
A50 - town, by claim.
Nos - more active than usual, despite the pace of the game. Deeper content too.
Math - Putting them here on the trust something will come out of their reach out.
Wayward - I liked the push on Kuroi and the risk taking.
Davesaz - barely in this box, his push on wt is a little side eye
Tim - I like what they say when I read it but forget it soon after, good enough for day 1 town
No retreat - it's Nero. It's town here.
Song - they've been my first town read, and likely will be forever.
Ram - I hope Cerb head will in game marry me.
LLD - I get the frustration. I am still doing the best I can on posting.
Rb - I liked his tail end recent posts
Expedience - has shitty reads, but I agree with dram's take
TWIE- like the effort and the votes, not lurking or playing the no vote game, decent analysis
DGB - lots of sunshine here
Toog - liked the way they handled the flavor discrepancy
null, but will treat as town today
Cephrir feels town but I never recall him as town and my gut feels off on saying he is town. He probably is, but I cannot.
untouchable regardless of scuminess due to risk but not human
Luna, copper, storm blade
scum
Kuroi - Nothing he posts displays any attempt to scumhunt. None of his posts attempt to understand anyone. He's not reading what his scumreads are saying. Doesn't sort his biggest detractor.
Wake - splitting hairs over my scumhunting is all they've done. Zero unique contributions. Likely not human
Can die
Klingoncelt - has posted nothing of value, and has a few buddying posts. When asked to prove her great meta reads, she vanished
Franky - no posts
In post 2625, Titus wrote:
Wake - splitting hairs over my scumhunting is all they've done. Zero unique contributions. Likely not human
Titus, I'm playing on this slot now. This is an overwhelming game, so I'm asking you to judge me based on my own actions: my posts in the Hydra were gray.
You had none of value, so you'd be in can die region.
In post 2625, Titus wrote:Wayward - I liked the push on Kuroi and the risk taking.
what risk taking are you referring to?
The frequent votehops, starting a new wagon while he's the biggest one, with likely scum piling on his wagon, the follow up to him asking me the alignment question. LQ thinks I can always sort them accurately ultra fast. He came across real genuine there.
Post
Post #2645 (isolation #241) » Thu Jul 14, 2016 3:32 pm
Postby Titus »
In post 1896, Luna Fox wrote:Honestly in a game this large i dont find it unlikely to miss a claim.... HOWEVER what has been said as me being one of their biggest scumreads = they should be paying more attention to my posts is true.
Vote: Kuroi
Start here and read. Rehashing only makes the thread bigger and harder to manage.
In post 2625, Titus wrote:
Cephrir feels town but I never recall him as town and my gut feels off on saying he is town. He probably is, but I cannot.
Did you mean read, not recall? If recall was the right word then I'm mildly confused.
untouchable regardless of scuminess due to risk but not human
Luna, copper, storm blade
I still don't quite understand this >_< but you're far from the only one saying it
Luna says there is a huge risk. Based on Luna's flavor and my own PM, I have my own speculations as to what that hazard is. That's moonlogic. I am trusting Luna that the risk is there anyway.
In post 2650, Salt Squad wrote:I am concerned that there isn't any pressure in the direction of ABR after his whole. "I can't scum hunt in thread or in my private hood because cults"
Wow this makes me want to play so much!!
Albert
Hey, I want you here. I want you to keep me in check if town. I want to know what you think.
Post
Post #2683 (isolation #249) » Thu Jul 14, 2016 5:06 pm
Postby Titus »
In post 2683, No Retreat wrote:Titus you have alot of town reads and very few scum reads which I think is p odd. Celt not reacting to my push on her also pisses me off. Gonna ISO WT and Copper now since no one bulleted a case for me.
I am odd. This is a cult game. I don't expect there to be many scum at start.
I don't mind a Klingon flip at all. Grandma (nickname I use for her) is acting like her scum meta.
Post
Post #2693 (isolation #250) » Thu Jul 14, 2016 5:25 pm
Postby Titus »
In post 2689, copper223 wrote:It is a BS read Titus threw out to support Anti's case, either cause they are buddies or cause Titus really has no clue what she is doing as has always been the case when I've played with her, and like LLD said she also seems immune to learning.
Really? The discredit is powerful. Newbie 1710 I had all but two reads solved accurately by day 1. Try me again. You also don't have the history to say that I am immune to learning. You never once have ever raised that issue ever before.
I've meanwhile played with anti and TTH a whole fuckton. If I didn't think mislynching you might throw the game into an unrecoverable tailspin, I would be voting you.
In post 2689, copper223 wrote:It is a BS read Titus threw out to support Anti's case, either cause they are buddies or cause Titus really has no clue what she is doing as has always been the case when I've played with her, and like LLD said she also seems immune to learning.
Really? The discredit is powerful. Newbie 1710 I had all but two reads solved accurately by day 1. Try me again. You also don't have the history to say that I am immune to learning. You never once have ever raised that issue ever before.
I've meanwhile played with anti and TTH a whole fuckton. If I didn't think mislynching you might throw the game into an unrecoverable tailspin, I would be voting you.
Insanity, 1710 I wanted to lynch scum Ness, scum Root and absolute town lurker Algae, you spent your day hard tunnelling town Thor to the point you sacked your JK role to try and get the cred for a lynch and happily got yourself killed, you also hard defended scum Ness/Root for the whole day, that is a good game?
I have played 3 games with you, I don't make rash judgments but more and more I am losing respect for your ability to read players, what you are good at is getting people lynched (mostly town) and conf biasing about the times you were right apparently.
You claim algae slipped wrong. Tried to push Nahdia. Also wrong. I had Thor and ness as scum. Scum were immediately lynches after my death. I only had Thor wrong because he tunnelled on obvious town which is not thor.
You want to try and cast a referendum on me, or play mafia?
In post 2709, Luna Fox wrote:Umm guys...
Meta arguments are fine and all, but...
I think you're going a bit over the top discussing another game ^_^;;
Titus is asking why/claiming I am discrediting her, that is why it is relevant Luna.
Gee, you cannot realize that me messing up two reads on day 1 is a bad game. Or every game I had is bad. Or that you've seriously pushed I have never learned before now.
You're recycling gripes against me expressed by others to deter others from joining the Kuroi wagon or to murder Heartless.
Whichever it is. I don't care. I don't need to prove my self worth. But if you need to, my collection of things that can be measured in a contest are in my closet.
Post
Post #2722 (isolation #256) » Thu Jul 14, 2016 6:28 pm
Postby Titus »
In post 2722, Salt Squad wrote:Very frequent vote hops is scum play, starting a new wagon is null when you are the main wagon, Focusing around yourself isn't town.
Like he is genuinely scummy at best.
Respectfully disagree but that sounds more like a theory debate than anything.