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Don't worry no one likes it when cops get guilties on them and... you kinda need to argue in favor of your win condition and you can't just give up.In post 4150, Salt Squad wrote:
I literally can doing nothing about this and I am town and this feels terrible.In post 4147, Luna Fox wrote:I dont think individual vampire is a scum faction.
I think the scan was correct however, and you're using an individual vampire fake claim.
I understand the position it puts you in.~Gotta stay happy, Everyone's your friend~-
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The Faction/Nation was a free action, it was used on someone who had already claimed something in the hood by the same person that performed the Faction scan.In post 4153, davesaz wrote:Did the same person check Faction, Nation, Location on SS, or two different people checked, one using Faction and the other using Nation/Location? Canonical redirect mechanisms would redirect everyone who targeted a given player, so you're asking the probability that the redirect target would match nation/location but not faction?
Neither the targets nor the actions were outed until Day 2 start.~Gotta stay happy, Everyone's your friend~-
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>All gameIn post 4159, Salt Squad wrote:I get you guys have no reason to assume redirection even though I have been obvious town all game but you guys are shooting yourselves in the foot by lynching me now rather then later.
>Might have been culled by a faction that doesnt have culling restrictions.
Tho that Isolationist thing i dont even know what it is.
But considering no one ever answered that i assume it means scum.~Gotta stay happy, Everyone's your friend~-
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What i think is he already got culled into this Isowhatever faction and they want more members.
And he's just using his original role as a fake claim.
But ok if you guys want to believe it more than the Faction Cop then go ahead, meanwhile my vote wont move.~Gotta stay happy, Everyone's your friend~-
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Inb4 culledIn post 4198, Salt Squad wrote:
I AM SORRY THAT YOU GOT A HORRIBLY WRONG RESULT NOW STOP PUSHING ME AND GIVE ME ONE DAY TO CONFIRM MYSELF AS TOWN.In post 4195, Luna Fox wrote:I dunno, all i know is the result i got.
Inb4 roleblocked
Inb4 redirected
Like seriously, what.~Gotta stay happy, Everyone's your friend~-
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Yes LLD, the wording literally makes it explicit that the Wulden (if any) in our hood is a bad guy.
Whether you're part of that Wulden faction or not is another matter entirely and you claiming the exact same win con as us when your race appears to be our enemy is entirely suspicious.~Gotta stay happy, Everyone's your friend~-
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First of all, every non-human race can recruit, that's not only yours, you're not the only one with this ability, stop thinking that you're the only one that can "convert someone into conf town".
Second of all, if 2 people try to cull the same person it fails.
Third of all, Not all humans can be culled.~Gotta stay happy, Everyone's your friend~-
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Sigh, if you guys are just gonna continue yelling at each other instead of trying to figure things out together im just gonna take a break from this game.
This game's a puzzle, and we need to solve it, but if you keep thinking that everything = scum then that wont help.~Gotta stay happy, Everyone's your friend~-
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Actually that was a scan on Storm.In post 4254, Almost50 wrote:
Wait! You're talking about Luna here?? I mistook it for an investigation on Salt!In post 4022, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Do you deny you are an "Other" nation or that you have a 2 Shot BP?
Are you calling me a liar?~Gotta stay happy, Everyone's your friend~-
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This is true.In post 4268, A Song of Ice and Fire wrote:your faction has a redacted part in role pm~Gotta stay happy, Everyone's your friend~-
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I dont think this game's as simple as Town/Scum as you think it is.In post 4278, A Song of Ice and Fire wrote:I asked that during the night
she resisted to tell me that
and about dram , its simply unknown , she may be town or scum. I believe I'm leaning scum cause that makes sense
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This was already answered tho.In post 4279, Salt Squad wrote:@mod would Kuroi have been given a fake claim with his role pm?
If a faction was able to receive a fake claim would this be known in there flip?
If they have the mod ability to get a role PM, it will flip with them if it's individual, but if it's factional it'd be part of the redacted.~Gotta stay happy, Everyone's your friend~-
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As i said.In post 4284, Salt Squad wrote:
If we know Kuroi had no fake claims that makes him in the win with town camp as his claim is safe to claim and then why would Frozen still be pushing me.In post 4283, Luna Fox wrote:This was already answered tho.
If they have the mod ability to get a role PM, it will flip with them if it's individual, but if it's factional it'd be part of the redacted.
We dont know coz there was a redacted factional part and if he had the ability it could be there.
And if the ability is there it means you'd have that same ability too.
So in the end we confirm nothing.~Gotta stay happy, Everyone's your friend~-
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My win condition both require me and my faction members to survive and to help the humanity treaty.In post 4285, A Song of Ice and Fire wrote:I am thinking that my faction is town.
there are alies like titus outside of my faction
there are 3p factions who maybe just wanna live
the rest are multiple scum factions
if you know more tell me about it
~Ice
Which is similar to what flipped with dram's
Which you are reading as scum.
So i'm telling you, that you're wrong.~Gotta stay happy, Everyone's your friend~-
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Nope:In post 4291, A Song of Ice and Fire wrote:Kuroi was very likly scum and beeboy is scum with him thoughNow what was Kuroi's win con again? Oh right the top one.
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Because all non-human factions do.In post 4296, A Song of Ice and Fire wrote:still I want an explanation for how that recruit function works with details.
how an individual faction - if meaning uninformed - can have a factinal ability ?
It's in the mechanics.
Not scum.
Except for the faction that's specifically out there as a Cult who may or may not have a more powerful culling ability.~Gotta stay happy, Everyone's your friend~-
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The restrictions is possibly the ones stated in the mechanics post?In post 4302, A Song of Ice and Fire wrote:@Nahdia
I didn't ask you
I want to know all the restrictions they have cuase currently a factional recruit function like that make no sense as a town faction
~Ice
As i've mentioned them before:
- Can only target Humans
- Not all humans are vulnerable
- Fails if another player tried to cull the same target
vIn post 3, mastin2 wrote:Each faction, if possessing a non-human race, has a one-shot ability to recruit a human to their faction. Emphasis "human". This ability will fail if more than one faction attempts this on the same target. This ability does not work on all humans. Regardless of success or failure, this ability is used up once activated. (The recruiter will be informed if they fail, but not the reason why.) In short, only the unluckiest of humans will get culled. It can happen, though, so be cautious!~Gotta stay happy, Everyone's your friend~-
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No i was lying about strong willed to test for reactions but he saw through it, just wanted to eliminate the possibility of redirection.In post 4401, RAM wrote:Which is it? Was there possibly a redirect, or is it CERTAIN beyond any doubt that this individual received SS' faction information?
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That's the problem.In post 4438, A Song of Ice and Fire wrote:@luna do you have any clue what a new human treaty is?
I have no idea.
I just assume it's to protect humans and defeat people who are against it.
I have asked mastin, but i got nothing.~Gotta stay happy, Everyone's your friend~-
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Because it is possible?In post 4439, rb wrote:Why do I feel like there's a human scum faction though? Why tell me whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
We have been talking as if Race = Win con.
When it's Faction that = Win con.~Gotta stay happy, Everyone's your friend~-
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Well if you come up with something that'd be good.In post 4445, A Song of Ice and Fire wrote:
I'm not trying to say if lld is scum you are as well or anything like itIn post 4443, Luna Fox wrote:Also dont forget, whoever's scum also has fake claims, sooo.
I'm just trying understand this weird win condition
~Ice
Because neither of us in the hood has any idea.
I've just been playing as i've assumed it, i think it's a town win condition due to necessarily need to defeat all threats to this humanity treaty, and i assumed that the members of this humanity treaty = the town.
But probably members of it dont know they are members of it?
I dont even know.
Tho at least i find it fun trying to figure this out.~Gotta stay happy, Everyone's your friend~-
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Yeah... which doesnt help me in the slightest, dam me and my not reading >.<In post 4458, Cephrir wrote:That makes a lot of sense to me from a game design standpoint
I think i should just operate as a VT instead of potentially giving more info to scum, and instead claim that im said Faction Cop.
If the redirect happened, it guarantees there's scum in the hood considering i had already claimed this in there early thinking by mistake it was a Masonry.
If the redirect didnt happen SS is scum lying and i just made myself an even bigger target ^_^;;~Gotta stay happy, Everyone's your friend~-
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He's following my faction cop scan.In post 4489, A Song of Ice and Fire wrote:he claimed individual what are you talking about?~Gotta stay happy, Everyone's your friend~-
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I mean.In post 4491, Salt Squad wrote:Luna literally claimed cop to the scum and has the most unreliable guilty on me ever fucking seen.
WHAT
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Either no one messed up with my investigation, which means you're lying about your Faction either by virtue of Fake Claim or culting (which you mentioned doubts on the 2nd one).
Or someone messed up with my investigation and there's guaranteed at least one scum in my hood because i claimed Faction Cop there.~Gotta stay happy, Everyone's your friend~-
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I did mention humanity treaty, humanity thing.In post 4492, rb wrote:
Because I had no idea about the wording of your WinCon.In post 4479, Luna Fox wrote:Apparently on D1 my win con i claimed was towny.
Now on D2 people believe the win con i claimed is scummy.
Something doesnt add up here indeed, and it's not me, it's you.
Did you happen to get culled overnight?
The way it's worded isn't the same as Titus/BBMolla at all. Which are the two factions I'm going to say I'm 100% sure are Town. Your WinCon and the [REDACTED] part mean that I have no reason to think that your interest = my interests. You might not be cult or scum necessarily, but you're not the Town I thought was Town. There's nothing that doesn't add up, it legit just looks like you and your buddies in your PT fucked up because you thought you were Town when you actually weren't.
Multiple times.
What are you even reading if you didnt notice that.~Gotta stay happy, Everyone's your friend~-
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Isolationist faction.In post 4500, A Song of Ice and Fire wrote:what was the exact wording of your result luna?
Isolated faction ?!~Gotta stay happy, Everyone's your friend~-
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Thing is...In post 4506, Salt Squad wrote:
Stop being bad when you can wait a day to confirm me.In post 4505, Luna Fox wrote:If my results got messed up with then there's guaranteed scum in our hood, which is great info to have.
If they didnt then SS is scum lying, which means this lynch is correct.
Your recruit is very likely to fail, specially announcing it like that, plus you need to hit a recruitable human and more likely if you fail you'll be lynched tomorrow anyway.
That is even if you're telling the truth and you dont need that night to do [Insert scummy things here]~Gotta stay happy, Everyone's your friend~-
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Uh i think you're confusing race and faction.In post 4519, rb wrote:- 2 faction cops check 2 independent people
- both faction cops return highly suspicious races (nosferatu/wulden)
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How am i supposed to knwo what the Isolationist faction is even capable of doing.In post 4522, Salt Squad wrote:Your play became really bad as soon as you submitted a cop on me and you staying consistent with that. Like what could I possibly do in 1 night as scum hat outweighs allowing me to confirm myself as town.~Gotta stay happy, Everyone's your friend~-
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If you did i missed it, can you quote it?In post 4531, Salt Squad wrote:
I already claimed all that info and you didn't have a problem with it. Like come on.In post 4529, Luna Fox wrote:Besides as i said, we mass claimed Nation/Location in our hood, my Free action scan went to one of them and i got what they claimed.
How likely do you think it is i got redirected to an Isolationist with the same Nation/Location as that person.~Gotta stay happy, Everyone's your friend~