Mars 3 - Weasel Mafia -GAME OVER

[JDodge]

/wave
Hi everyone.

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voute: ouman

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he's acting exactly like I would expect the pointy-haired boss to act if Dilbert was real life. It's quite annoying me. If it's not a PR, I hope he stops it soon, otherwise it appears some people will lynch him just to be rid of his posting.

Eh? How does that in any way make you think "Pointy-Haired Boss"?

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I can't think of a character in the strip who thinks he's the most intelligent person in the world yet can't string together coherent sentences and spell correctly.

Wait.

Could he be the Pointy-Haired Boss?

there we go.

NO UR NOT RITE

This is Niv as Niv always is, unable to string coherent sentences together and spell correctly. The only difference is the number of uses of the word "Fail", and possibly a creative way of putting "Fail" in as many places as possible.

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Ok, I don't really have the energy to siv through this, so I'll just ask if anything worthy of Debate has happened in the last page and a half or so.

Read it yourself.

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As a matter of fact,

unvote, vote: Thanatos

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I would like anyone who's around to read this to give an overall update on their thoughts about players in the game.

no

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Give it a shot, guys. a good reread will do wonders for you knowledge of the situation we're in right now.

Weren't you the one saying it was just a bunch of useless crap?

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His so called post restriction, IE, his rhyming, is confirmed to be a personal quirk, not a restriction. I can link to the game if you want.

If it's ongoing, don't.

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Isn't what MoS is doing to DGB against the rules of the site as well as immature and idiotic?

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How is it breaking the rules?

From the site-wide rules:

Do not bring outside influences into the game - this includes threats, bribes, wagers, promises, alliances, etc. Using knowledge from previous games is perfectly acceptable, but try not to carry grudges from one game to another.

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Here's a hint:

MoS and Ouman do various nasty things together at night

Also they may be killing people too

Unvote, vote: MoS, FoS: Ouman

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Here's a hint:

MoS and Ouman do various nasty things together at night

Also they may be killing people too

Unvote, vote: MoS, FoS: Ouman

For what reasoning is it that persons are failing to realize this communication. this is clearly a information claim, and would like to hear more from JD

No info claim. Part joke, part suspicion

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Unvote, vote: Gage

I am vote hopping

Discuss

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Unvote Vote Thanatos

When did I get on ZONEACE?

You've been on him and riding him pretty hard,

if you know what I mean

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DS is a bad lynch at the moment.

Mod

: Replace Disciple Slayer. He's flooding the game as well as making unnecessary and excessive ad hom attacks.

I'll entertain the idea of a DS-replacement lynch, though.

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If Iammars requests that I quit the ad hom, I'll gladly cut it out though.

I'd prefer your replacement. You're distracting the town from the very pro-town goal of lynching one of (Gage, MoS, Oman).

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STOP WITH THE DS VOTES.

YOU ARE ONLY VOTING DS FOR BEING AN ASS, WHEREAS THAT SEEMS LESS LIKE A SCUMTELL AND MORE LIKE HIM BEING AN ASS.

DS IS A TERRIBLE LYNCH CHOICE

AT THE MOMENT

AND I WILL BE LOOKING CLOSELY AT EVERYONE WHO HAS JUMPED ON THIS WAGON WITHOUT REASON.

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You're a member of the musical taste patrol and he came up Lionel Richie?

The

bastard

.

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Unvote, vote: Oman

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Mod

: I am currently voting for Oman. Oman is not voting for Oman.

Why aren't more people voting for Oman?

[JDodge]

You should not make any post, or start any thread, with the intention of abusing, ridiculing, insulting, offending, or upsetting any other user on this site.

Within a game, criticism of another player's play is acceptable - making it personal is not

, and may result in action by the moderator of that game. Outside a game, determination of the intention of the poster will be made by mith, or someone appointed by mith.

Fair enough, some people here don't think Sikario is a great player, but I see no point in personally attacking him. I'm irritated further by the fact these personal attacks have been posted in place of content. I hope we don't see any more of it, because that's not what I'm playing Mafia for, and not what I replaced into this game for.

Glork and JDodge seem to have been very silent lately.

Haven't felt like wading into the bullshit lately, thus I have been focusing on games more worthy of my time

Also why isn't Oman's head on a pike yet

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As a refresher, the reasons I think Quag is scum is that he is joining bandwagons giving no reason until pushed afterword, pairing votes with non-sequitors (What did the "man up" post by Glork to MoS have anything to do with voting DGB?), and acting like he's caught scum with no proof and then switching "surefire scum" targets.

I have seen this "bully" aproach before. Fritzler has done it at least once. The person acts sure he's caught scum, but refuses to cite proof, hoping the person will crack, then moving on to another person. In esscence, it's a forced mass claim if people actually go alojng with it. If someone has proof in forum he should say so. In fact, if the person's a cop or something that catches scum, he should say so. Keeping a cop alive is good, but catching scum is better. A 1-1 trade even with a power role is a good trade for town.

For now my vote stays on Quagmire, though I may switch to Theanos if this isn't going anywhere.

was fritz scum or town in that game

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I don't remember.That's beside the point. The town shouldn't be folliowing non-information, but actual information. We shouldn't trust players to lead the entire town, even if they do SOUND like they know what their talking about.

no it is the point

you cannot call someone scum because you saw someone else do it

if you do not know the "someone else" was scum or not

. if you want to use a meta, you'd better back it up

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That is not in any way true in the current game environment when the universal scumtell is rapidly disappearing and being replaced by nuances of meta for each individual player. Even then, leading a town is

not

in any way scummy - towns in general do better when there is at least one person leading the charge, per se. Otherwise, you have a town full of people apathetic to the point of inactivity - which scum love and mods loathe.

Give me one good argument as to why leading a town is scummy and why meta is not important in this instance.

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I dislike Oman's cult comment.

Vote: Oman

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This game has just gone onto my "list of games that make me want to punch a baby".

I'm confused entirely. Would someone hold my hand (not Korlash, Thok or Gorrad, don't want the spin on it) and tell me what the hell is going on here?

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Sorry, I entirely forgot about this game - I'll need a bit of time to read from where I was, but I should be able to do that over the next week. One thing struck me as odd:

Players that need more attention/some impressions I have of people:

JDodge

(and to a lesser extent)

ZONEACE - Lurking

I'm unashamedly willing to start Day 3 with the intention of pushing either of these two to the brink of a lynch. Hell, if this Thanatos wagon falls apart, I'd be willing to do it today even. Ha, honestly, probably not, since we'd be likely to get hit with a deadline. But Day 3, I'm game. The way I see it, the longer they're allowed to lurk, the more likely they are to be wild-cards come endgame.

I've also expressed some criticism of ZONEACE. I found his play in Day 1 (e.g. unfounded votes based on an "attempted day-vig" or annoying post restrictions) really anti-town and opportunistic and am not willing to forgive it as typical Day 1 play.

JDodge hasn't posted too much, making his hard to read. I agreed with his criticism of the DS wagon but that's about it. He hasn't said much else at all.

Knowing how long it has been since I last posted, why did you not ask for prods on players you thought inactive? Wouldn't it actually be better to try to get inactive people posting than to try and throw suspicion onto them alongside a notable 8 people. Why do you find so many people suspicious? And furthermore, you know I have a tendency to lurk even as town - why do you find that to be a tell from me?

[JDodge]

Okay, I knew there was a reason I thought Porochaz was town:

It's found here.

This is also where I got my impression that Niv was town. JDodge and Glork (and destructor) were yelling at people for voting DS and saying there was no reason for people to be voting him. This isn't necessarily a mark against Glork or JDodge, and Gorrad's reasons weren't sufficient to justify his vote on DS, perhaps. But Porochaz gave what I considered good and sufficient reasons for his vote on DS, and lo and behold, DS was scum, not JUST scum, but the godfather.

Have you meta'd DS? Can you say that DS did what he did solely as scum?

I know that I wasn't arguing DS-town, I was arguing DS-we can't tell because he's a horrible player.

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Have you meta'd DS? Can you say that DS did what he did solely as scum?

I know that I wasn't arguing DS-town, I was arguing DS-we can't tell because he's a horrible player.

I've played with Disciple Slayer before. And I agree with your general point, but the fact is, he was scum, and scum would have known that. I said it wasn't necessarily a point against you or Glork (or Destructor) but that it did have to be a point for Porochaz, because Porochaz-scum had no reason at that point to disagree with two of the more vocal and aggressive players in the game at the time and go after DS when there were other targets being pushed.

It's not indicative of YOUR alignment. It's indicative of his.

How so? This is based solely on what you think Prozac would do in such a situation. I think that bussing is just as good a reason as your whole "selfless" reasoning.

Note that I'm not committing to Prozac-scum. Just arguing where your logic is flawed.

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We should start looking at people other than mneme. Like Oman for example.

Vote: Oman

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Don't ask why. Just do.

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It is not gut. I have reasons to think that seeking alternatives would be a good idea right about now.

I will elaborate at a later point or have my point elaborated for me later.

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We'll know soon enough, mneme.

Oman, I enjoy watching you squirm. Note how you were keen to not even get involved until someone went after you.

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But not involved. Anyone can be a broken record - it takes something more to produce what is on that record.

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mneme votes are useless at this time.

Wagon someone else.

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mneme votes are useless at this time.

Wagon someone else.

If you have some kind of plan, that's OK, but could you at least tell us what is your stance towards mneme?

I'm not going to bludgeon you over the head with my point - just rest assured that it exists. I feel mneme is scum. I feel that wagoning him is pointless as of a short while ago,

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You'll see why lynching him is pointless as soon as the mod arrives.

Thank you.

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My guess is that JDodge day-killed me. But what do I know?

Before the mod shows up, does anyone have any interest in finding out who I blocked today?

Bingo.

So yes, who you blocked - if you're pro-town, you have no reason to hide this anyways.

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Yeah, my kill has to be sent before the hammer - so I think it would still apply no matter what, unless the mod isn't looking at timestamps.

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Willing to continue.

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Apparently my dayvig ends the day. I have thus cancelled it.

Unvote, vote: mneme

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Apparently my dayvig ends the day. I have thus cancelled it.

Unvote, vote: mneme

Huh? If we're going to be lynching mneme anyways, (which seems likely), at this point wouldn't verifying your role be a good thing for town? We've already seen for the most part people's opinions on mneme, so unless your role is a one-shot I'm not sure I see the downside to using it.

Also,

unvote

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It is one-shot.

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I am

so

tempted to just kill Oman right now. But the game needs a lynch to get moving again.

[JDodge]

DS is a bad lynch at the moment.

Mod

: Replace Disciple Slayer. He's flooding the game as well as making unnecessary and excessive ad hom attacks.

I'll entertain the idea of a DS-replacement lynch, though.

This is a very interesting post. What makes a DS replacement lynch a good idea but not a DS lynch?

It was intended that I would consider lynching DS's replacement after DS was replaced - I would still maintain that DS was acting the same as he usually did before he thankfully flaked from the site.

Jdodge argues over theory with Foolster. I agree with Jdodge. However, I'm still less than enthused about Jdodge's actual contribution to the game.

Meh, I kind of got lost game-wise around the whole glork-thok-foolster claiming thing (I still don't understand that BTW. I've tried to figure that out so many times it's not even funny.)[/quote]

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I'm highly tempted to just vig Oman and lynch Prozac tomorrow.

Thoughts?

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Darn it. I was almost certin Mneme was scum. I'm thinking now that Thanatos is someone who should be next. (Right now I have more a scum vibe on Thanatos than anyone else.)

Yeah, let's not go too quickly. Are there other reasons other than the hammer?
Someone yesterday said they were sure I was scum, I'd like to hear more about that. I'm willing to claim if need be.

Didn't you already claim?

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Part of me wants to vig Oman because nobody will lynch him otherwise, part of me wants to kill Prozac to give this game a boot in the ass by going with the popular choice, and part of me wants to kill Korlash just because he's being completely annoying.

Please comment on these, people.

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Jdodge, I assume I will get lynched eventually, I'm not focusing on any of my games as much as I'd like to, and that usually leads to my lynch.

But yeah, vig me if you must, but remember that its not a tool to confirm yourself (as I'm sure you're aware, cause you're a smart guy).

Why are you assuming I'm trying to confirm myself?

Prozac, have you claimed yet? I forget and don't have time to read back through ATM.

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JD: -, +, -

Any thoughts/insight on why your vig didn't happen yesterday? Did you receive one of those

messages

?

I thought I'd said that I was informed it ended the day immediately and thus decided not to use it.