DEFCON Mafia 4.0 - СЛАВА РОССИИ МАТЕРИ

[Untrod Tripod]

Reck: UT what do you have deployed
UT: A nuke

~immediately after~

A POOL OF PLAYERS INCLUDING UT HAS BEEN TARGETED BY THE SUB

come on man. how do you not see the trajectory there

i didn't ask you what you had deployed?

you already claimed you were going to pick nukes?

i was asking why you hadn't nuked anyone yet considering how much you were chomping at the bit to nuke people the entire first 50 pages of this game

you know the silo has a defensive setting, right?

I think the question was really "did you actually deploy the nuke today"

[Untrod Tripod]

so I can shoot you with the sub

[Untrod Tripod]

because I'm the terrorist

[Untrod Tripod]

Silo options:

Nuclear launch mode:

As the commander of a nuclear facility, you have the red button. One little push and a wave of destruction like no other will be unleashed upon the world. {Once each day, if the game is in DEFCON 1, you may attempt to kill another player by posting the command Nuke: [PLAYERNAME] in the thread. It will take 48 real-life hours for a nuke to hit its target. You may cancel nuclear launches by posting Abort Launch in the thread up to 24 hours after firing. Nuclear strikes continue regardless of whether the game is in day or night phase or whether the launching player is still alive – note, however, that if the game enters night phase, a launch cannot be recalled as the thread will be locked.}

Anti-Ballistic missile mode:

The ABM missile systems are counter-ICBM rockets designed to shoot down incoming enemy warheads. {The first nuclear launch targeting you each day will fail.}

heyyyyyyyyyyyyy check this out

[Untrod Tripod]

"I have the ACC I have the ACC I have the ACC"

and I'm supposed to believe you because...?

[Untrod Tripod]

look you ask me what I have out. I say the nuke. literally NINE MINUTES LATER the sub shoots at possibly me

considering my position here you have to see why I think that looks like you probing to see if I went defense and then taking the shot

PEdit: okay LLD, shoot your nuke at Reck and let's find out if he actually ACC'd you. if he did, I call off my nuke. two birds.

[Untrod Tripod]

"I have the ACC I have the ACC I have the ACC"

and I'm supposed to believe you because...?

Occam's Razor. He dies if he's CC'd so there's no point in claiming something he doesn't have.

So the question isn't "does Reck have this" because that's solvable easiily by CC.

The question is "does SK reck have this?"

I guess he could conceivably have both the sub and the ACC

[Untrod Tripod]

I can't stop laughing

[Untrod Tripod]

I tell you what sugartits, if the 3-man list for that sub shot doesn't include me I'll call off the nuke

otherwise we're going to join each other in the great radioactive waste in the sky

[Untrod Tripod]

so one is

GreyICE, hiplop, Untrod Tripod, Papa Zito, Nukebringer

and the other is

mastina, RedCoyote, xRECKONERx, SpyreX, Ircher

we're assuming nuke #1 is the SK right

we are assuming that the first one listed is the SK, yes

[Untrod Tripod]

*grabs the marshmallows*

[Untrod Tripod]

Reck makes a tempting argument in 3909

[Untrod Tripod]

I tell you what sugartits, if the 3-man list for that sub shot doesn't include me I'll call off the nuke

otherwise we're going to join each other in the great radioactive waste in the sky

final answer though

[Untrod Tripod]

this might be the greatest game day I've ever played

rivaling last-day Reckoning III. wish Gamma was here.

PEdit: why in the fuck would you use a sub shot on me?

[Untrod Tripod]

what really pisses me off is UT, if he's town, won't care if he's wrong or not and he won't care about town winning because LEL TROLLOLOLOL I NUKED RECK and all his noncontributing and bullshit since D1 would be fucking passable because he doesn't really give a shit

this hurts me reck

I cry

[Untrod Tripod]

@UT -- Recall the nuke already. There is evidence beyond any shadow of a doubt that Reck is town.

oh shit, I didn't realize the mod confirmed his alignment

my mistake

[Untrod Tripod]

what really pisses me off is UT, if he's town, won't care if he's wrong or not and he won't care about town winning because LEL TROLLOLOLOL I NUKED RECK and all his noncontributing and bullshit since D1 would be fucking passable because he doesn't really give a shit

#CancelTheNuke

it's a catch 22

the game has gotten so fucking hilarious because of this

but if I cancel it you might stop being hilarious

[Untrod Tripod]

UT has like 90 minutes to cancel because I'm pretty confident this is town reck and even if its sk reck, reck's roleclaim forces him to use his power for the good of the town or face the noose.

@Untrod, yeah, you cannot wait for the sub choices to narrow. That gives a very small 4h window and that just isn't right.

a. you're not my mother
b. is this a threat?
c. I wouldn't have said I would do what I would do unless I was sure I could actually do it. I'm free during that time. I'll even set an alarm on my phone.

do you want me to post a fucking youtube video of me setting an alarm on my phone to #cancelthenuke because I swear to god I will

[Untrod Tripod]

uhhhh do you think I'm going to roll a d6 every hour to make an int check to see if I remember? jesus christ

[Untrod Tripod]

guess we're rolling those dice!

[Untrod Tripod]

lol

you are so fucking stupid dude

[Untrod Tripod]

could have saved zito

but nah

you decided to be a special snowflake

[Untrod Tripod]

he's the claimed submarine dipshit

[Untrod Tripod]

Ive already saved zito gosh

how's that?

[Untrod Tripod]

shit how did I miss that

regardless, intercepting Reck was fucking stupid

[Untrod Tripod]

we could just lynch Ircher today if he's going to fuck up everything good for the remainder

or shit, someone could just nuke him

hint hint

anyone who wants free towncred should nuke Ircher now

[Untrod Tripod]

you know

it's really not that hard to just read the rules

it's really just not

[Untrod Tripod]

Pedit: Lots of rules, lots to remember.

you don't have to hold it all in your head, you can just reference the rule post when you're not sure about something

how do I have a monopoly on this crucial information

[Untrod Tripod]

oh shit

weather forecast is a 66% chance of JUSTICE

[Untrod Tripod]

well reck it looks like Ircher made the choice for me so

[Untrod Tripod]

sure let's boogie

who are we lynching today?

[Untrod Tripod]

Zito said rc so it's suicide if it hits reek

Please photoshop the shitting elmo or He-Man onto GoT Reek's face for me. Do it.

[Untrod Tripod]

So Reck's either the serial killer, or town.
In either case: not the best nuke, when his block action is far more valuable to us.

xRECKONERx is straight town. Serial killer is confirmed to have a submarine.

serial

killer

gets

two

abilities

read

the

fucking

rules

before

you

fucking

post

stupid

shit

like

that

[Untrod Tripod]

okay flashpoll

should I use Reck's photoshop or mine

[Untrod Tripod]

hey but UT who do you think we should lynch

i'd like you to really contribute for realsies this time

okay so

during the froufrou surrounding the SS lynch, I said at the time that Nukebringer was almost definitely his buddy. I still think that.

mastina needs to fucking die

Ircher also needs to die, but I don't really see him as scum, he just needs to die

other than that I'm really just shitposting right now and waiting for the nukes to drop

[Untrod Tripod]

anyway why'd the vaxkiller wagon die the other day

eh

I was reading Vaxkiller as town D1 but he's posted nothing but infodumps (which are fucking useless anyway) so I don't care if we kill him either

[Untrod Tripod]

during the froufrou surrounding the SS lynch, I said at the time that Nukebringer was almost definitely his buddy. I still think that.

lol k

son you practically took out your scum cock, tattoo'd SS's face on it, and waved it in our faces

and I don't even know what that means but I like it

anyway you're scum die

[Untrod Tripod]

Nukebringer has a nuke barreling for them so fuck that
same w/ EP

I would love to assume that neither of them deployed the defense, but let's wait and see on that

I'm okay with Vax, Nahdia strikes me as a "wait for the smoke to clear" scum which seems possible, but I'd much rather just lynch mastina who is actively bad than Nahdia

compromise on Vax today???

[Untrod Tripod]

He's doing literally nothing else? I dunno, I was mostly agreeing as a policy lynch and he's been useless and we're up pretty far so idgaf

[Untrod Tripod]

vote mastin

now you're speaking my language motherfucker

[Untrod Tripod]

like what if mastin lied about her bid placements in order to throw the game into chaos making us think there are more power roles out there than we thought

Like what if Martina thinks she's rain man when she's just slingblade? Is that what you mean

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Shh baby shh just give in to the lynch

Martina needs to die

[Untrod Tripod]

nuke: EP

VOTE: ircher

No nukes should be wasted on ircher

Reck

[Untrod Tripod]

Yeah well aren't you townreading me now? Why would you still want him to nuke me?

[Untrod Tripod]

Nothing like a clean set of balls that's what I always say

[Untrod Tripod]

Anyway shit, reck, since you were one of the first people to jump off my wagon D1, I owe you a nuke too

If you're town and alive tomorrow you can direct at will

[Untrod Tripod]

The nuke on Reck is terrible. Cancel it plz

Pretty sure Papa Zito is dumbass town but Ircher needs to go for sure

it was intercepted

read the game, goofus

[Untrod Tripod]

intercepted BY IRCHER

[Untrod Tripod]

[Day 3, DEFCON 1 - Game Event]

...

[NORAD SYSTEM] ALERT. ALERT. NUCLEAR LAUNCH DETECTED.
[NORAD SYSTEM] Attempting to locate launch site...
[NORAD SYSTEM] Missile unable to be tracked...
[NORAD SYSTEM] Analyzing flight trajectory…
[NORAD SYSTEM]

ERROR: MULTIPLE TARGETS DETECTED: GreyICE, hiplop, Untrod Tripod, Papa Zito, Nukebringer

[NORAD SYSTEM] Estimating time until impact...
[NORAD SYSTEM] Warhead will detonate in (expired on 2016-12-05 12:44:46)

[NORAD SYSTEM] Reanalyzing flight trajectory…
[NORAD SYSTEM]

ERROR: MULTIPLE TARGETS DETECTED: GreyICE, Papa Zito, Nukebringer

[NORAD SYSTEM] Estimating time until impact...
[NORAD SYSTEM] Warhead will detonate in (expired on 2016-12-05 12:44:46)

RECALL NUKE

OH SHIT I CAN'T BELIEVE I MADE IT IN TIME

GOOD THING THOSE DICE WERE KIND TO ME EH

[Untrod Tripod]

intercepted BY IRCHER

The legend himself

a reference photo

[Untrod Tripod]

I LIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIVE

I told you I would if my name wasn't on the 3-list

I'm a man of my word

[Untrod Tripod]

well tomorrow my nuke is yours to direct so let's leave this hilarious chapter behind us and lynch the fuck out of mastina

you have to admit that without my nuke this game would be probably 25% as incredible as it is now

[Untrod Tripod]

if you get blindsided by zito's nuke just leave me a list of targets and I will carry on your legacy and change my avatar to the one you made

[Untrod Tripod]

aye aye

[Untrod Tripod]

although I still want to see mastina's "psychological profile" on me

I'm sure it's comedy gold

[Untrod Tripod]

correct me if I'm wrong, but that confirms I don't have a silo yeah?

[Untrod Tripod]

I don't have a submarine

fuck

[Untrod Tripod]

oh, duh

I'm confusing silo and sub in that post. too many jargon.

[Untrod Tripod]

show us some profiles you filthy tease

[Untrod Tripod]

holy hell that got buried, my bad for missing it

[Untrod Tripod]

that's the trick though, baby, I'm always trolling

[Untrod Tripod]

hey hey hey hey hey hey hey hey

I'm not useless

[Untrod Tripod]

Then who is scum exactly? I think Cheetory is town, I think Mastin and Reck are town,

I think LLD is town

, I think SpyreX is town. Vax felt like town based on Spiffeh's interaction, although it's a bit marginal still. MoI is town. I think GIF's counterclaim makes him likely town, that makes Hiplop at least not-Russian. That's 9 town. Zito is likely town from the sub, although he could be scum earning points. Nahdia is town.

didn't you just call her scummy like one page ago?

additionally, what is with him bitching about us fucking around while we waited for nukes?

[Untrod Tripod]

So on a good note I got to skip like 5 pages of Reck / UT / LLD so that’s something …


So on a good note I got to skip like 5 pages of Reck / UT / LLD so that’s something …

literally the best five pages of this, or any, game.

[Untrod Tripod]

He already shot his nuke dude

[Untrod Tripod]

[Untrod Tripod]

QUICK DOES ANYONE HAVE THE INTERCEPTOR SO WE CAN SAVE HIM FROM THIS HORRIBLE FATE

oh

wait

[Untrod Tripod]

yeah, Nuke was really, really, really transparently SS's partner

[Untrod Tripod]

^ that was at Nahdia

[Untrod Tripod]

more like get RECKED

[Untrod Tripod]

I'm way in favoring of justice killing Mastina irrespective of her alignment just to stop the noise

[Untrod Tripod]

Spoiler: mastina

Ceph, there's also that mastin "forgetting" to cancel her nuke is pretty god awful too.

I didn't forget anything.

Here's how Friday night went.
At around ten, I was dead tired. Dead fucking tired. I needed a nap. I normally like to do things just after midnight, because that allows me to do things like get the new badge of the day on Kongregate, and not have to deal with a change in date timestamps when browsing forums which will write things in the format of "posted yesterday/2 days ago". So I took a nap.
I forget exactly when I woke up, but it was somewhere between 1 and 2:30.

At that stage, do you know how much work I had to do on my comic?
I had just finished the flats. FLATS.
I hadn't even done the detail work: usually at least half an hour to an hour. There's two layers, so it's definitely at least an hour when factoring in both detail layers.
I hadn't done the second coloring layer which adds life to the work. Since this was my first time coloring a character (the random villain guy), it would take me extra-long. That took me about half an hour in of itself to figure out, yet alone, draw. And throughout this process, I was noticing that the written numbers I have for those colors...weren't very visible, so I was trying to write new numbers that would make things pop more for future pages.
When factoring in the drawing time, that's at least an hour's worth of work.
The third layer doesn't take me much time, since the only thing I bother to make a third layer for is Ruby's hair (in part because I simply don't have the time for a third layer everywhere, in part because there isn't much of a need for a third layer anywhere else), but there was also making the faded sketch layer. That, for this page, involved erasing the extra, as to remove the excess white which looks godawful in the finished stages. Playing around with the transparencies in particular took a while.
Then there was after that the highlights and lowlights. These are relatively simple, just black and white at whatever opacity feels right. (I guess every single page.) In spite of this being largely improvisation, it still takes time to paint what "feels" right for the page. At least half an hour there.

Then, after that, I had ENDLESS woes working on the fucking magic. Two layers worth. The final page resembles my original cover in colors, rather than the awesome third page, and I haven't a clue why, since I never recorded the original cover's colors, and I DID record the colors for the third page, so it makes absolutely no sense that the colors which were recorded for the third page ended up identical to the colors I actually did for the cover page, and I was trying to fix this, to tamper with this, to mess around with it, to no avail.

The magic is sloppy. It doesn't have the same life to it as the previous pages. There's no luminosity to it, no light reflecting off of body parts as there was on the previous page. And while I managed to more or less capture the majority of the feeling behind the magic, it wasn't even remotely as good as it should have been.

And then you get to see the villain's subtle magic. That took time to figure out, and even there I didn't do it properly.

Between these factors, it should be no surprise that I spent TWO FUCKING HOURS (no seriously I was keeping track of time and it took me that damn long) to finish it.

...Then, there was the conversion process. On my slow-ass computer. It takes two to three minutes for a file to save. Between saving the original, creating a full-sized copy, creating the release size, and saving the release size, that's four to five saves, which adds up.

...After ALL OF THAT, I spent time on the main site I hang around on, doing the bare minimum rounds: browsing the forums and quickly responding to the minimum content. This started at some time around 7:30, and because I hadn't logged in for a couple of days thanks to being fucking busy, it took me around an hour to finish.

And, oh yeah.
Did I mention my woes weren't over?
The full-sized version of the page, as a PNG, is 7MB.
The site I upload the full-sized images to has a file size limit of 6MB.
So the next page has a full-sized version which was, in MS Paint, converted to a fucking JPEG because that was the only way I could get it online. I meant to trouble-shoot this, but I was tired and I never got around to it.

So while the image is live on one place, on ALL other places, every single other place I host it including my fucking blog, the image is TWO DAYS LATE--and counting, because right now I'm playing this fucking game rather than uploading it--releasing. This, AFTER I was already on a fucking hiatus for weeks so I'm losing what little readership I had gained in the vast majority of places.

And the reason that I didn't put it up on those mirrors?
Because it was fucking 8:30 in the morning, I was absolutely utterly exhausted and I didn't have time for that shit, I was going straight to fucking bed especially since I knew I had to drive myself to--and then BACK from--a boring-ass staff meeting which never produces anything interesting but which I am obligated to attend.

And I set my timer. See, when I set my timer, I have this rule of mine. Not unique to timers, mind you. I'll do the same for microwaves. That rule is that I'll never enter numbers which are not near each other. So, for instance, in a microwave, I can put 212, 252, or 232, because 1, 3, and 5 are the numbers next to 2. On a timer, I am a bit more flexible in some ways, but strict in others: near-universally, I will never enter a time which causes me to cross into another column. So I use times like 3:33:33, 6:39:99, 7:17:77, 7:47:77, and 8:28:88. Those times, and those times only. Why, I don't know, I'm a freak. I usually aim for a number which allows me to get to sleep within half an hour, and then have a total sleep time which is in the pattern of 1.5 hours: 3 hours + half an hour, 4.5 hours + half an hour, 6 hours + half an hour, or 7 hours + half an hour. (Rarely, 9 hours plus half an hour.)

I don't remember which time I entered. It was either the 6:39 or 7:17 one, though, because I woke up at 3:30.
Now, I was under the impression the YMCA closed AT 3:30, and that the staff meeting started at 4. It's a half-hour drive from my house to Monroe. (Well, more like 20 minutes.) So what did I do? I left straight for the fucking staff meeting. Now, the staff meeting was scheduled to go until 7:30. Fortunately for me, it ended at 6:45, so I got home a bit early. And I came in at 7:15 or thereabouts. Now, I hadn't written my daily blog for the day. My brother was coming over for anime night (we watched seven episodes of the second season of Ajin), and he was scheduled to come at the time I was supposed to be home: 8ish. So that left me a 45-minute window to do my daily blog. I whipped it up as quickly as I could, and lo and behold, the first thing I did after that?

Log onto here, post for as much time as I could (even after he had arrived for a while--I delayed my Tuna Helper supper until it was stale thanks to getting caught up here), and then log out when I ran out of time.

That was my Friday, and Saturday, with them having blended together.

Now I never lie about real-life.

Never

.

And if you think I made any of the above up, you're a fucking scumbag especially since most of this is easily proven and known to be true for my life in general really and it would be utterly unethical for me to lie, anyway.

I didn't cancel the nuke because I didn't have the chance to cancel the nuke.
I was too busy working my ass off.

[Untrod Tripod]

mastina my friend, I know you're an intelligent lass. Surely you can appreciate the idea of ceph, magna, and grey being off limits today, no?

why those three?

[Untrod Tripod]

mastina my friend, I know you're an intelligent lass. Surely you can appreciate the idea of ceph, magna, and grey being off limits today, no?

why those three?

They're the only people who haven't claimed.

JESUS christ, it's been that many?

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but yeah that's the right plan, I don't know that any of them are in any serious danger of dying today, but yeah

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mastina my friend, I know you're an intelligent lass. Surely you can appreciate the idea of ceph, magna, and grey being off limits today, no?

why those three?

They're the only people who haven't claimed.

JESUS christ, it's been that many?

Yup. I have a table. Want to see my table?

girl you KNOW I do

[Untrod Tripod]

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aw man

I was going to ask if it was going to be me

then I was going to say ~mysteries~

[Untrod Tripod]

you ruined it GiF

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I mean

maybe the cop is still alive because they were never getting nightkilled

[Untrod Tripod]

hey

hey guys

hey guys

watch this

Nuke mastina

[Untrod Tripod]

do you

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or are you just excited about all this JUSTICE

[Untrod Tripod]

look at me at the top of that reads list

I've come a long way baby

[Untrod Tripod]

Keep in mind someone got sabotaged today.

[Untrod Tripod]

who was it???

~mysteries~

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I mean

maybe the cop is still alive because they were never getting nightkilled

guys I'm literally retarded ignore me

[Untrod Tripod]

Zito's Nuke

zito's dead baby

[Untrod Tripod]

AND GreyICE needs to die.

And MoI

And uhglfa;sh';hae'f;fshd

shh shh

we will all die in the warm glow of radioactive light

let's cherish these moments we have together

as we celebrate mastina getting fucking dead

[Untrod Tripod]

BUT YOU'RE A FUCKING IMPATIENT CHILD WHO DOESN'T LISTEN TO ANYONE AND THINKS THEIR FUCKING BRILLIANT Or sOMe SHIT

see this is why I didn't really feel like waiting was worth it

mastina can't be alive when it actually matters imo

[Untrod Tripod]

Cephrir, please request an avoidance of nuclear death if you are town.

What would that help? I'd rather have more time to post anything I think might be useful.

UT is nuking Mastin currently. If you flip town, we'll 100% put that nuke through.

Otherwise, if you don't shoot yourself in the head, I'm pushing for UT to recall his nuke.

but

But

But

Martina nuke :-/

[Untrod Tripod]

I can't believe you're giving me anything less than a ticker tape parade for nuking that

[Untrod Tripod]

"My scumreads may be shit, but my townreads have been pretty good"

Do you really expect me to sit here and read things like that. My nuke finger gets itchy yo

[Untrod Tripod]

you all are too cavalier about the value of one town life. killing someone for information is usually stupid.

#lifebeginsatthemodPT

[Untrod Tripod]

I can't believe you're giving me anything less than a ticker tape parade for nuking that

On a personal level, you're getting a medal.

On a game state level, we really fucking needed to reassess after the GiF+Reck deaths.

sigh

Should I just recall it?

[Untrod Tripod]

You people

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Yeah I know I know

I just

Want martina to die

[Untrod Tripod]

Oh good, I can set the alarm again

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Yeah

Unless Martina is keyser sozeing us but... that seems pretty unlikely

[Untrod Tripod]

Could this eavessdrop be cephir saying

"Can I target myself with doc?"

seems more like wifom considering that the doctor role says in the description that you can't self-target

[Untrod Tripod]

still could be cephir but

I wouldn't read too much into it

[Untrod Tripod]

Would LLD really submit the NK for the scum? She doesn't like to do that. Like seriously I've been on scumteams with her and I know she hates doing that.


Would LLD really submit the NK for the scum? She doesn't like to do that. Like seriously I've been on scumteams with her and I know she hates doing that.

what do you mean submit?

[Untrod Tripod]

Stealth Bomber: Starting at DEFCON 2, you may deploy your Stealth Bomber once per Night Phase to kill a target player. This is a factional ability.

I'm thought factional meant that it didn't come from a specific player?

[Untrod Tripod]

Grey is this an attempt to look like you can't be scum because you don't know how the scum kill happens

because it's workingggggggggggggg

[Untrod Tripod]

I swear mastina just sticks names in an rng and calls it a readslist

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only way mastina cancels that nuke is if the remaining scum are Ceph/mastina

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God i need like two town so we can go mad

hi

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If thats the case then i want mastin dead all.over again

I have good news

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Mod, if a lynch is averted by Battleship, does it end the day?

No.

OH HEY GEE SWELL.

ANYONE WANNA TEST A CLAIM WITH ME?

you wanna maybe wait for the nukes to fall?

[Untrod Tripod]

Uh I was talking about this and you have me confused now.

huh?

I tend to read stuff in order and comment as I go

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One was on scum, but it was inconsistent.

you mean nuke, the person who I was connecting as a SS buddy before SS had even fallen?

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I've used it in games I've modded before

it's not super common, but it's not like it's unique to this game

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Ooou that implies arial scum nukes. Maybe today wont be awful afterall

I tried changing the font to arial but discovered that this is arial

Just want to update you on my life

[Untrod Tripod]

You know what, you're right.

Replace me out Andrius.

.

Come on mannnnn

[Untrod Tripod]

yeah, or it's a ruse

or it's nonsense

or it's framing

or

or

or

or

fill in the blanks. scum knows their messages might be intercepted, why would they ever talk straight?

[Untrod Tripod]

literally anyone can write a code. I don't understand why you think that's something only a select group of people can do

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oh right, that sort of thing is why there's hot nuclear death coming for you

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what's that expression about wrestling with pigs

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The casual disrespect

Get nuked

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just three hours folks

then the nightmare is over

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regrets = none

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worst case

what do you mean worst case? it's an open setup dude. no guessing involved

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oh, word

didn't sabotage that then

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oh and that's 8 players

fucking duh

math is hard

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Katsuki?

fuck, I wasted my nuke

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everything went better than expected

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it gets real funny when the nukes drop

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hey vi

hey vi

hey vi

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let's pretend our nukes are bans and use them capriciously just like back in the day

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hey vi

hey vi

hey vi

let's pretend our nukes are bans and use them capriciously just like back in the day

uh

what nukes?

JUST LIKE BACK IN THE DAY AMISOFRIGGINGRITE

also as you're rereading, every time you have to slog through yet another awful mastina post I want you to remember "UT nuked the fuck out of this"

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People who have medium-term memories: Was there anyone

other than Fate

who wanted Untrod Tripod dead on Day 1?

Vi, if you were to admire someone, from a scum perspective, what kind of action do you think they're taking?

Doc is the first action that comes to mind. Then again, how would you explain "mining"? Is there necessarily a correlation?

so am I the terrorist or am I scum? The fate kill was from the terrorist

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Vi you need to make up your mind who the scum are, because you're all over the map with your assumed associations

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And questioning the Martina nuke as "opportunistic" tells me you haven't read the game

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So is that a no on you reading the game, or....?

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Also I'm gonna need you to explain why I, as any flavor of scum, nuke Mastina

She was unequivocally townreading me, was ridiculously mislynchable, and was generating all kinds of noise to hide behind.

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Like saying "lol opportunistic" is so tone deaf and illiterate that I'm starting to doubt my Cheetory townread

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Reads are for chumps

Nukes are for gods

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There's two kills to be had, son, you think I'm gonna throw all my reads out there all the time just to get myself killed? Sheeeeeeeeeeeeit

I was up on SS and Nukebringer before the nukes fell, can't help but notice you're ignoring that

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Oh ho ho

So I'm the SK now?

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We all may be the SK on this blessed day

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Well not me either, according to my role PM

Can I see your role PM

Does it say terrorist

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But seriously I need you to explain to me in what universe any flavor of scum nukes mastina

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Why the fuck would I nuke Fate? He helped me not get lynched

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Kill, not nuke, you know what I mean. Why would I kill zito?

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Shit, if I were SK I'd be killing you and LLD long before Fate or Zito

Or Spiffeh ffs

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Like, you're telling me that my SK gam is to kill a bunch of people townreading me

What the fuck is that?

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Fate hit the brakes on my lynch. I don't think he was really much of a threat to get me dead.

Was Zito wanting me and Nahdia dead? That explains why he hit either of us with the sub.

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Regardless, mastina, reck? They're in my F3 if I want to win this as a 3rd party.

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I understand you're doing the paranoia thing right now, but girl please

Pedit: well I'll be damned, he made a passing reference to it. I'm sure if I was an SK and had the ability to take a role that gave me access to nuke immunity I wouldn't have taken it at all so I could laugh that off no sir.

And Fate? Dude wanted my nukes. He'd get left alive and nuked by someone else when he pointed them at town. I'd never kill that N1

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Also 2743 is him saying he doesn't think either SS or I was scum, so....

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So is 2687 isn't it? Whatever.

Anyway, sure, I'll get on that tomorrow. Right now I need to stop yelling in my head at a mafia game so I can get up bright and early for one of my three christmas gigs tomorrow. Yay.

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I think that the time is now for {LLD, GreyICE, UT, SpyreX} to start voting. It really should be Ijji Modo at this point, should it not?

No. Still V/LA but voting should absolutely wait until

1. The Terrorist nuke actually hits.
2. I have some time to lay out my thoughts.

Until then ...

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I choose option C: dumb

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I could be talked into lynching Vi. His entrance into the game was really, really bad and looks to me like he's angling as hard as possible for a mislynch

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Like we rraaaly need to be on the same page here cause tomorrow needs to move fast the second nukes launch.

Soo you tell me what you need for me to be town or lynch me cause that cannot happen tomorrow

who'd you shoot with the sub?

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No LLD you're not wiggling out of this now. I got paranoid at Vi and you used this as leverage to call me the SK. Get fucked scumfuck.

well, LLD is confirmed not-SK. Don't we want to lynch the SK today to have a chance at a town win?

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Lynching the SK is the one way to guarantee town loss.

I swear unto god do you just pop up to read things about the SK?

yep. That's definitely it.

So are we just praying for a cross kill, or? I would think the SK having a kill tonight and a sub tomorrow would be bad for us, but I guess it does kind of depend on what happens when the sub nuke drops today

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Marital love can be so romantic

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I'd rather just lynch the SK though

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Nahdia, friend, just because I didn't answer you immediately doesn't mean I'm ignoring you

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Yeah, I feel you. I'm mobile posting right now and that answer is going to involve rereading and probably quoting.

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breathing room

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This means GreyICE is clear of being Russian btw. Unless you think Russia no killed. Which I mean, maybe.

remind me on the specifics of this?

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That, or they purposefully no killed/drove themselves into Cephrir's guard

that was what I thought, but I wanted to make sure that was why.

I do think it's possible they did that, since Cephir knew he'd have to claim at some point and he'd want defensible targets. also I think the doc only protects against one kill they could have been banking on multiple kill shots being used on the cop? I dunno, it doesn't seem completely out of the question in this game

Pedit: jesus christ, talking about "oh the timing from the eavesdrops". a. we don't know about the exact timing b. it's entirely possible to read the thread and not post in it, you know

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oh and c. disinformation is a thing

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all the more reason to SK-hunt!

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I think town wins this game now.

can we win the game with nukes though

I really want to win the game with nukes

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vote GreyICE

hitching my wagon to the LLD train

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can I spend the money on nukes instead

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spyrex plz

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I wasn't saying your name on purpose. It's possible Ceph just lied about who he targeted. Of course, that runs the risk of being outted if his actual target was nuked/lynched.

I mean, there's also the possibility that Ceph didn't target his buddy. it's all wifom honestly

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I am not the SK. I remain not the SK, and you can happily lynch me and find out... not the SK.

This is top fucking news though.

VOTE: UT

more like top kek

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I assume that at this point you are SK hunting?

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Oh and to fill in the rest, she shoots me early as scum, and I do the same to her. I was the first person the scum night killed in the game - she is NOT cleared no matter what. I have trouble seeing why Spiffeh/Cephrir/Nukebringer/X shoots me immediately as their TOP PRIORITY SHOT if X is anyone other than MOI or LLD.

LLD can't read you for shit, but you kill her early when you're scum? Can't have it both ways, cupcake.

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And not that he couldn't have just known to begin with, but it makes sense that Untrod would know this since RECK targeted him with the ACC the night he killed Fate.

...what?

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And not that he couldn't have just known to begin with, but it makes sense that Untrod would know this since RECK targeted him with the ACC the night he killed Fate.

...what?

Fate was killed by the terrorist, if I were the terrorist and I was roleblocked then I am confirmed not-fate-killer

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ugh that got all garbled in my head. the point is me being the terrorist doesn't fit with your UT-would-kill-Fate narrative since I was roleblocked that night

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The night fate died, bluh bluh bluh semantics.

Wait, I get the UT-Terrorist thing now. Mastin targeted Papa Zito with a nuke (which could still have been recalled but whichever), and then the SK-Sub targeted Papa Zito before Mastin's nuke resolved.

Iiiiiii get iiiiiiiit

...okay it's like two hours later and I'm looking at this now and this... doesn't resolve anything about UT. It only really works if the Terrorist knew that Mastin's nuke was going to fail...

...doesn't... it...?

See, that's the problem. We assumed hiplop because hiplop didn't appear to be paying attention. The only person who knew the nuke was gonna fail was SpyreX. But he took Covert Ops. Why in God's name would SpyreX take Covert Ops as terrorist??? Not to mention, why incriminate himself by shooting a nuked player and then claim they were the only one who could know that nuke would fail.

yeah well why the fuck would I take a sub and a nuke instead of something that could save me from nukes

Pedit: wait, it is? well I'll be dipped. someone finally out-read me

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I also really love the "UT actually read the OP before he posted something" as a reason for scumreading me. that's pretty shit bro

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Something that could save you from nukes isn't necessarily a priority when you can achieve your wincon postmortem.

I mean. having my win be dependent on other people seems bad. I'd much rather just be immune to nukes.

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Worth stating again that Fate was screaming for UT's death just before he got murdered

you've already provided the quotes, and no he wasn't

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or someone provided the quotes

either way Fate wanted my nukes, he wasn't "screaming for my death."

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then he was screaming for my nukes?

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anyway, Nahdia, I really, really, really didn't like Vi's shift onto me after his big text dump

I said this at the time, but "oh, the nuke on mastin was opportunistic" is completely lacking in context or actual reading. it looked to me like he was just grabbing a buzzword to justify voting for a nuke.

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People who have medium-term memories: Was there anyone

other than Fate

who wanted Untrod Tripod dead on Day 1?

Vi, if you were to admire someone, from a scum perspective, what kind of action do you think they're taking?

Doc is the first action that comes to mind. Then again, how would you explain "mining"? Is there necessarily a correlation?

so am I the terrorist or am I scum? The fate kill was from the terrorist

you are ropebait
if hiplop flips terrorist then you can more specifically be narrowed down to "Russian"

Martina nuke

Martina McBride? You nuked an unmistakably American celebrity????

this post is especially bad because he is trying to argue that I am scum while also simultaneously arguing that I committed the terrorist kill. it's flail.

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I don’t think anyone left alive is incompetent enough to have fired of a Terrorist Sub at a target who is already slated for Nuclear Death due to not paying attention. Which means very probably that they felt PZ was enough of a threat to them that it was worth wasting their Defcon3 stealth nuke in case PZ had been Doc protected.

Remaining Living Players that PZ mentioned as scum or “needing death” –

Nahdia – 428, 440, 499, 516, 772, 3303, 3324,3403
UT – 2303

it's almost like the terrorist would want to eliminate possibilities of being nightkilled or nuked. can't imagine why that would be.

I don't understand, are you advocating that Nahdia is the terrorist, or are you saying it's a hamhanded framejob?

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Mm. Gotcha.

also Vi is waffling back and forth between me being terrorist and Russian, even though the arguments for those things is *profoundly* different. both possibilities can't exist in the same read of the gamestate unless you are just angling to eliminate threats.

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the one person Russians cannot unilaterally kill

what a great deployment for the SK, huh?

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sorry, was that you trying to insult me, or...?

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but you'd want some way to dodge the dayvigs too. Hey, could there be something that does both?

having a sub and a nuke deployed doesn't allow you to dodge dayvigs

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yeah I know. I haven't done that, though.

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basically that long post summarizes as "yeah, the role I took is a good pick for SK if you're good at mafia. but you're not good at mafia therefore ?????????"

it's just a dodge and he's just hoping to get a rise out of me

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Mother. Of. God.

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Maybe I should post a list of your recent mafia deaths. That should take you down a peg.

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Okay so we're on the same page there.

So when has UT ever sheeped you, SERIOUSLY

it's been a while since we've been on the same team

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someone's upset that they don't think they were caught for the right reasons :3

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stop trying to play it safe, he's already dead

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I think we wait for MoI to do his thing. We go from there.

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If Vi can suicide nuke, then MoI can just shoot Nahdia and Vi can suicide if town?

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Oh no, you meant if he was shot at.