Risk, Game 1 - the silent speaker wins

[mccoyn]

Hullo. I'm coolbot's brother. I'd like to play as a replacment if one is needed.

[mccoyn]

Before I move, I want to do some diplomacy.

CoolBot, I can't afford to attack S. America without an alliance. What I am thinking is a non-aggression between Brazil and N. Africa. I won't attack across there and you won't attack across there as long as I hold Brazil and you hold N. Africa. This aliance would only be in effect if I manage to take Brazil this round or next.

[mccoyn]

I'll need more time than 2 rounds. I could do it with a 4 round limit. Thats starting this round, so I would get this turn and three more before I could attack N. Africa.

Anything less than 4 rounds and the risk is far too great for me to go into S. America.

[mccoyn]

Four is iffy, but I think I could do it. If you end up capturing N. America, though, I will have to break the pact.

Its a deal then. I will not attack you in North Africa from Brazil in my next four turns (including this one) and you will not attack me in Brazil from North Africa in your next four turns. The whole thing is dead if I do not capture Brazil this turn or next, I capture all of North America, I lose Brazil after capturing it or you lose North Africa.

I'm ready to take my turn. I'll do it when I get home in about 30 min.

[mccoyn]

I get 3 armies for having 7 countries. I will place them all on CAm bringing the total for that coutry to 10.

CAm attacks Ven.
1:

Original Roll String: 3d6

3 6-Sided Dice: (5, 5, 1) = 11

Original Roll String: 1d6

1 6-Sided Dice: (1) = 1

2:

Original Roll String: 3d6

3 6-Sided Dice: (6, 3, 2) = 11

Original Roll String: 1d6

1 6-Sided Dice: (5) = 5

[mccoyn]

Looks like the first roll took it. I'll move the maximum amount (9) from CAm to Ven.

Ven attacks Bra. This battle will stop if I have 4 or fewer units left on Ven.

1:

Original Roll String: 3d6

3 6-Sided Dice: (1, 3, 3) = 7

Original Roll String: 2d6

2 6-Sided Dice: (4, 5) = 9

2:

Original Roll String: 3d6

3 6-Sided Dice: (5, 1, 1) = 7

Original Roll String: 2d6

2 6-Sided Dice: (1, 1) = 2

3:

Original Roll String: 3d6

3 6-Sided Dice: (2, 3, 5) = 10

Original Roll String: 2d6

2 6-Sided Dice: (3, 1) = 4

4:

Original Roll String: 3d6

3 6-Sided Dice: (6, 4, 6) = 16

Original Roll String: 2d6

2 6-Sided Dice: (1, 1) = 2

5:

Original Roll String: 3d6

3 6-Sided Dice: (6, 5, 3) = 14

Original Roll String: 2d6

2 6-Sided Dice: (5, 4) = 9

6:

Original Roll String: 3d6

3 6-Sided Dice: (5, 6, 5) = 16

Original Roll String: 2d6

2 6-Sided Dice: (3, 1) = 4

7:

Original Roll String: 3d6

3 6-Sided Dice: (3, 1, 5) = 9

Original Roll String: 2d6

2 6-Sided Dice: (5, 6) = 11

[mccoyn]

Results:
1: tss loses two. Has 3 left.
2: I lose two. Have 7 left.
3: I lose two. Have 5 left.
4: tss loses two. Has 1 left.
5: tss can only use the first die. I lose one. Have 4 left.
5: tss can only use the first die. tss loses one.

I move my required 3 into Brazil.


Bra attacks Arg to the last man.

1:

Original Roll String: 2d6

2 6-Sided Dice: (5, 6) = 11

Original Roll String: 1d6

1 6-Sided Dice: (4) = 4

2:

Original Roll String: 1d6

1 6-Sided Dice: (3) = 3

Original Roll String: 1d6

1 6-Sided Dice: (4) = 4

[mccoyn]

The first roll took it so I move the required 2 to Arg.

Arg attacks Per with the last man.

1:

Original Roll String: 1d6

1 6-Sided Dice: (5) = 5

Original Roll String: 1d6

1 6-Sided Dice: (5) = 5

[mccoyn]

I lost that one.

I will move 3 troops from Ont to WUS. This leaves one on Ont and 7 on WUS.

Changes this turn:
Ont has 1
WUS has 7
CAm has 1
Ven was occupied and has 1
Bra was occupied and has 1
Arg was occupied and has 1

[mccoyn]

Oh, and I will get a card.

[mccoyn]

I spotted an error while reviewing my posts. In post 130 (Ven attacks Bra results) the results for roll 2 report that I lost 2. Actually, we should have each lost one. Changing this would have resulted in that battle ending after the 4th pair of rolls when I had 6 left instead of 4.

I don't think there is any need to reroll Ven attacks Bra, but I'll reroll the Arg and Per attacks if everyone agrees thats the best way to fix it.

[mccoyn]

Thanks.

Heres the fixed results from the attack on Brazil.

Results:
1: tss loses two. Has 3 left.
2: We each lose one. I have 8, tss has 2.
3: I lose two. Have 6 left.
4: tss loses two. He is out of defenders.

I will move the maximum amount (7) from Ven to Bra.

Bra will attack Arg.
1:

Original Roll String: 3d6

3 6-Sided Dice: (1, 6, 1) = 8

Original Roll String: 1d6

1 6-Sided Dice: (2) = 2

2:

Original Roll String: 3d6

3 6-Sided Dice: (4, 3, 6) = 13

Original Roll String: 1d6

1 6-Sided Dice: (3) = 3

[mccoyn]

The first roll takes it.

I will move the maximum amount (6) to Ven.

Ven will attack Per.
1:

Original Roll String: 3d6

3 6-Sided Dice: (2, 5, 2) = 9

Original Roll String: 1d6

1 6-Sided Dice: (5) = 5

2:

Original Roll String: 3d6

3 6-Sided Dice: (3, 3, 2) = 8

Original Roll String: 1d6

1 6-Sided Dice: (4) = 4

[mccoyn]

Both rolls failed, so I have 4 left in Ven.

Ven will continue attacking Per.

1:

Original Roll String: 3d6

3 6-Sided Dice: (1, 1, 1) = 3

Original Roll String: 1d6

1 6-Sided Dice: (6) = 6

2:

Original Roll String: 2d6

2 6-Sided Dice: (4, 6) = 10

Original Roll String: 1d6

1 6-Sided Dice: (6) = 6

3:

Original Roll String: 1d6

1 6-Sided Dice: (1) = 1

Original Roll String: 1d6

1 6-Sided Dice: (2) = 2

[mccoyn]

The first roll took it. I will move the maximum amount (3) into Per.

I'm done attacking. For my reinforcement move I will do the same thing as before; Move 3 from Ont to CUS.

Changes this turn:
Ont has 1
WUS has 7
CAm has 1
Per was occupied and has 3
Ven was occupied and has 1
Bra was occupied and has 1
Arg was occupied and has 1

[mccoyn]

Hmm, I did mess up. I'll reroll Arg and Per again.

So, I move the maximum amount, 5 to Bra.

Bra attacks Arg.
1:

Original Roll String: 3d6

3 6-Sided Dice: (6, 6, 5) = 17

Original Roll String: 1d6

1 6-Sided Dice: (4) = 4

2:

Original Roll String: 3d6

3 6-Sided Dice: (2, 1, 5) = 8

Original Roll String: 1d6

1 6-Sided Dice: (2) = 2

[mccoyn]

1: I lose 1, leaving 4.
2: tss loses 1. I win.

I will move the maximum amount (3) into Arg.

Arg attacks Per, to the last man.

1:

Original Roll String: 2d6

2 6-Sided Dice: (5, 2) = 7

Original Roll String: 1d6

1 6-Sided Dice: (2) = 2

2:

Original Roll String: 1d6

1 6-Sided Dice: (4) = 4

Original Roll String: 1d6

1 6-Sided Dice: (3) = 3

[mccoyn]

1: I lose 1, leaving 2.
2: tss loses 1. I win.

I'll move my only available troop into peru.

For my move, I'll move 3 from Ont to CUS, as usual.

Changes this turn:
Ont has 1
WUS has 7
CAm has 1
Per was occupied and has 1
Ven was occupied and has 1
Bra was occupied and has 1
Arg was occupied and has 1

I hope I got it right this time.

[mccoyn]

I havn't gotten a card from my last turn yet.

I get 2 armies for S. America plus 3 armies for having 9 countries for a total of 5.

I will put 2 armies on Brazil, 1 on Ontario and 2 on Quebec.

Quebec will attack Greenland.

1:

Original Roll String: 3d6

3 6-Sided Dice: (6, 6, 5) = 17

Original Roll String: 1d6

1 6-Sided Dice: (3) = 3

2:

Original Roll String: 3d6

3 6-Sided Dice: (2, 3, 1) = 6

Original Roll String: 1d6

1 6-Sided Dice: (6) = 6

[mccoyn]

The first roll took it. I will move the maximum amount (4) to Greenland.

I will move 1 from WUS to Ontario.

I get a card and I'm still waiting for my last card. So, I need two cards.

[mccoyn]

rajrhcpfreak do you want a 1 turn non-aggression pact? I won't attack you on my next turn if you agree to not attack me on your turn.

[mccoyn]

I forgot to list my changes.

Ontario has 3.
Quebec has 1.
Western US has 6.
Brazil has 3.
Greenland was occupied and has 4.

I have 3 cards.

[mccoyn]

ok mccoyn, how bout a longer alliance.

What did you have in mind?

[mccoyn]

I already have a pact with CoolBot to not attack from Brazil. That leaves an attack through Europe as the only viable way to strike him. I don't see how an alliance with you would help.

I will not attack you in North Africa from Brazil in my next four turns (including this one) and you will not attack me in Brazil from North Africa in your next four turns. The whole thing is dead if I do not capture Brazil this turn or next, I capture all of North America, I lose Brazil after capturing it or you lose North Africa.

[mccoyn]

I don't have any particular designs on Africa or Europe in the short term. So, I see no benefit from an alliance with you. The alternative is a long term alliance. That doesn't seem likly to be profitable given your current situation and the uncertain nature of the game.

I'll offer you a one turn non-aggression pact. I won't attack you on my turn if you agree not to attack me on your next turn. We might be able to keep this up for a few turns, after which the future will be more clear and we can discuss something then. If it makes you feel better, I don't see any gain in attacking Europe in the forseeable future.

[mccoyn]

I think we are missing some map updates.

Changes:
Ural is now part of WindSlicer empire with 3 armies.

I forgot to list my changes.

Ontario has 3.
Quebec has 1.
Western US has 6.
Brazil has 3.
Greenland was occupied and has 4.

I have 3 cards.

making
Ukr 3
Afg 1

[mccoyn]

Thanks!

[mccoyn]

I'm just going from memory, but that looks right.

[mccoyn]

I get 5 armies. 3 for my 10 countries and 2 for S. America. I will put them all on Greenland.

Greenland will attack NW Territory.

1:

Original Roll String: 3d6

3 6-Sided Dice: (3, 5, 1) = 9

Original Roll String: 1d6

1 6-Sided Dice: (2) = 2

2:

Original Roll String: 3d6

3 6-Sided Dice: (4, 5, 2) = 11

Original Roll String: 1d6

1 6-Sided Dice: (4) = 4

[mccoyn]

The first roll takes it. I will move the maximum amount (8) to NW territory.

NW territory will attack Alaska. I will stop attacking when I have 3 or fewer troops left.

1:

Original Roll String: 3d6

3 6-Sided Dice: (5, 5, 1) = 11

Original Roll String: 2d6

2 6-Sided Dice: (5, 5) = 10

2:

Original Roll String: 3d6

3 6-Sided Dice: (1, 1, 5) = 7

Original Roll String: 2d6

2 6-Sided Dice: (5, 5) = 10

3:

Original Roll String: 3d6

3 6-Sided Dice: (4, 5, 2) = 11

Original Roll String: 2d6

2 6-Sided Dice: (6, 2) = 8

4:

Original Roll String: 3d6

3 6-Sided Dice: (5, 2, 5) = 12

Original Roll String: 2d6

2 6-Sided Dice: (6, 5) = 11

5:

Original Roll String: 3d6

3 6-Sided Dice: (2, 5, 6) = 13

Original Roll String: 2d6

2 6-Sided Dice: (3, 5) = 8

[mccoyn]

Results:

1: I lose 2. I have 6.
2: We each lose 1. I have 5, WindSlicer has 8.
3: I lose 2. I have 3.

As I stated thats as far as I will take this battle.

At the end of my turn I will move 5 troops from Western United states to Central America.

I get a card for taking NW Territory.

Changes this turn:
Northwest Territory was occupied with 3 troops.
Greenland has 1 troop.
Western US has 1 troop.
Central US has 6 troops.

I have 4 cards.

All the bad luck should be used up for the game.

[mccoyn]

I moved the troops from WUS to defend S. America.

[mccoyn]

crap i messed up we both lost one but i for got to take a die away from SEu... so agian

I thought we were just taking one off when we worked out the results.

Yeah, I suppose for the sake of speed, you can just roll 3 and 2 every time, and if the defender gets down to 1, just take the first die. Do specify before you roll if you want to stop attacking if you get down to a certain point.

[mccoyn]

I alliance with him still stands. I can't attack Africa.

[mccoyn]

Its a deal then. I will not attack you in North Africa from Brazil in my next four turns (including this one) and you will not attack me in Brazil from North Africa in your next four turns. The whole thing is dead if I do not capture Brazil this turn or next, I capture all of North America, I lose Brazil after capturing it or you lose North Africa.

My alliance with coolbot is still valid until the end of his next turn.

Coolbot:

Are you interested in a two-round truce?

tss, with no further buildup on India & the Mid East?

This is still valid for tss' next two turns.


I had an non-aggresion pact with raj, but that doesn't matter now.


Did I miss anything?

[mccoyn]

He had 7 cards and turned in 3, so now he has 4.

I won't break my alliance with him, because I have benefited from it a lot. It wouldn't be fair to break it now that it benefits him.

WindSlicer, I don't think your plan to attack Europe from Alaska is a good one. You will have to defeat 4 of my troops and ocupie two countries before you even get to him. If you attacked from Afghanistan it would be just as costly to you, but much more costly to CoolBot. This would also leave me in a position where I can attack Europe making it a two front war for him.

CoolBot, do you want to extend our non-aggression pact between Brazil and North Africa? I want to remove the stipulation about North America because you now control Europe. I'd like to have an answer to this by the time I start my next turn.

[mccoyn]

How long do you want to extend it, mccoyn?

How about 3 rounds and without the N America clause.

WindSlicer, would you be interested in a non-aggression pact with me?

[mccoyn]

It is in my best interest for WindSlicer to attack you through TSS instead of me. If he attacks me through Canada he will have to defeat at least 4 of my troops and occupy at least 2 of my territories. A non-aggresssion pact will leave him free to work on you from one side while I work from the other.

Of course, it would be easy for me to wait until next turn and attack through Africa or Iceland, whichever you leave weakest.

[mccoyn]

Well, I won't tell WindSlicer what is in his best interest. He is perfectly capable to figuring that out himself. I am just offering my assistance with a non-aggresion pact in case that is a mutually beneficial arrangement. Its up to him to decide if he will gain from it. I've already decided.

[mccoyn]

If you agree to this before Slicer takes his turn, it will pretty much force him to take his force in Alaska and use it to take Iceland. This will spread his forces pretty thin, leaving North America wide open to be captured by you.

Yeah, spread his forces thin by taking mine out along the way. Meanwhile, I'll be struggling against him preventing him from having the resources to adaquatly defend Europe. You take Europe easily, I still have to struggle for N. America while providing a killing field if WindSlicer tries to take Europe. Free defense for your, no guarentees for me. Not in my best interest.

If

I could be sure of getting N. America in a short term I would be willing to make a non-aggression pact with you allowing you to keep Europe and me to keep N. America.

[mccoyn]

I get 2 for S. America and 3 for my 9 countries giving me 5. I will place all five on Ontario.

Ontario attacks Greenland.
1:

Original Roll String: 3d6

3 6-Sided Dice: (6, 5, 5) = 16

Original Roll String: 1d6

1 6-Sided Dice: (3) = 3

1:

Original Roll String: 3d6

3 6-Sided Dice: (5, 5, 1) = 11

Original Roll String: 1d6

1 6-Sided Dice: (1) = 1

[mccoyn]

I lose 1 in the first roll. Windslicer loses 1. I will move 4 to Greenland, leaving 3 on Ontario.

At the end of my turn, I will move 5 from Central America to Venezuela.

Final status:
I captured Greenland and occupied it with 4.
Ontario has 3.
Central America has 1.
Venezuela has 6.

I will get my 5th card.

[mccoyn]

No, if you had agreed to before my turn I would have, but now I've already moved assuming its going to end.

[mccoyn]

I will turn in cards for 10 troops, plus I have the Ontario card so I get 2 more.

Ontario Horse
Siberia Horse
Iceland Horse

I get 3 troops for my 9 territories and 2 troops for S. America. Thats a total of 17, two of which must be placed on Ontario. I will place all 17 on Ontario giving me 20 total there.

Ontario (20) attacks Western United States (2).
1:

Original Roll String: 3d6

3 6-Sided Dice: (4, 3, 4) = 11

Original Roll String: 2d6

2 6-Sided Dice: (1, 6) = 7

2:

Original Roll String: 3d6

3 6-Sided Dice: (1, 5, 6) = 12

Original Roll String: 2d6

2 6-Sided Dice: (4, 2) = 6

[mccoyn]

The first roll took it with no losses. I will move 19 troops to WUS.

Western United States attacks Alberta.
1:

Original Roll String: 3d6

3 6-Sided Dice: (6, 5, 2) = 13

Original Roll String: 1d6

1 6-Sided Dice: (4) = 4

1:

Original Roll String: 3d6

3 6-Sided Dice: (2, 3, 5) = 10

Original Roll String: 1d6

1 6-Sided Dice: (5) = 5

[mccoyn]

The first rool took it with no losses. I will move 18 troops to Alberta.

Alberta attacks Northwest Territory.
1:

Original Roll String: 3d6

3 6-Sided Dice: (1, 4, 3) = 8

Original Roll String: 1d6

1 6-Sided Dice: (6) = 6

2:

Original Roll String: 3d6

3 6-Sided Dice: (6, 3, 4) = 13

Original Roll String: 1d6

1 6-Sided Dice: (5) = 5

[mccoyn]

1: I lose one, leaving 17.
2: WindSlicer losses his last one.

I will move 16 troops to Northwest Territory.

Northwest Territory (16) attacks Alaska (1).

1:

Original Roll String: 3d6

3 6-Sided Dice: (6, 4, 1) = 11

Original Roll String: 1d6

1 6-Sided Dice: (1) = 1

2:

Original Roll String: 3d6

3 6-Sided Dice: (6, 3, 6) = 15

Original Roll String: 1d6

1 6-Sided Dice: (6) = 6

[mccoyn]

1: I lose one, leaving 15.
2: I lose one, leaving 14.

Northwest Territory (14) continues the attack on Alaska (1).

1:

Original Roll String: 3d6

3 6-Sided Dice: (2, 4, 3) = 9

Original Roll String: 1d6

1 6-Sided Dice: (3) = 3

2:

Original Roll String: 3d6

3 6-Sided Dice: (5, 6, 2) = 13

Original Roll String: 1d6

1 6-Sided Dice: (3) = 3

[mccoyn]

The first roll took it. I will move 13 troops into Alaska.

Alaska (13) attacks Kamchatka (1).

1:

Original Roll String: 3d6

3 6-Sided Dice: (1, 4, 3) = 8

Original Roll String: 1d6

1 6-Sided Dice: (3) = 3

2:

Original Roll String: 3d6

3 6-Sided Dice: (1, 5, 6) = 12

Original Roll String: 1d6

1 6-Sided Dice: (1) = 1

[mccoyn]

1: I lost one leaving 12.
2: WindSlicer losses.

I will move 11 troops to Kamchatka.

Kamchatka (11) attacks Japan (6).

1:

Original Roll String: 3d6

3 6-Sided Dice: (6, 5, 5) = 16

Original Roll String: 2d6

2 6-Sided Dice: (6, 2) = 8

2:

Original Roll String: 3d6

3 6-Sided Dice: (2, 3, 6) = 11

Original Roll String: 2d6

2 6-Sided Dice: (5, 6) = 11

3:

Original Roll String: 3d6

3 6-Sided Dice: (1, 5, 1) = 7

Original Roll String: 2d6

2 6-Sided Dice: (2, 2) = 4

4:

Original Roll String: 3d6

3 6-Sided Dice: (2, 5, 4) = 11

Original Roll String: 2d6

2 6-Sided Dice: (2, 1) = 3

[mccoyn]

1: I lose 2 leaving 9.
2: I lose 2 leaving 7.
3: We each lose one. I have 6, he has 5.
4: We each lose one. I have 5, he has 4.

I'm going to take a couple seconds to think about this.

[mccoyn]

Ok, I'm done attacking. I'll move 4 troops from Venezuela to Brazil.

End of turn status.

Ontario has 1.
Venezuela has 2.
Brazil has 7.
Western United States was occupied and has 1.
Alberta was occupied and has 1.
Northwest Territory was occupied and has 1.
Alaska was occupied and has 1.
Kamchatka was occupied and has 5.

I'll have 3 cards when I get my card.

[mccoyn]

CoolBot are you still interested in a non-aggression pact?

[mccoyn]

I can't accept that. What we can do is exclude Iceland from the agreement so that if I take it you can take it from me without breaking the pact.

[mccoyn]

Bra (10) attacks Arg (1)

Original Roll String: 3d6 (STATIC)

3 6-Sided Dice: (6, 1, 1) = 8

Original Roll String: 1d6 (STATIC)

1 6-Sided Dice: (4) = 4

Arg loses one; Bra loses one.

Shouldn't that just be Arg loses one?

[mccoyn]

It appears the dice hate me.

[mccoyn]

I wasn't in a good position anyways. The Silent Speaker will be turning in cards this turn and he would have surly attacked me since I was so far ahead in reinforcements. Now CoolBot's head is on the chopping block.

[mccoyn]

Windslicer has 4 on Japan.

[mccoyn]

Silent Speaker, when you collect all your cards how many will you have?

[mccoyn]

WindSlicer is gone so it is now my turn. I get 3 troops for having 9 countries. I will place all 3 in Kamachatka giving it a total of 7.

Kamchatka attacks Japan.
1:

Original Roll String: 3d6

3 6-Sided Dice: (1, 1, 2) = 4

Original Roll String: 1d6

1 6-Sided Dice: (1) = 1

2:

Original Roll String: 3d6

3 6-Sided Dice: (6, 3, 3) = 12

Original Roll String: 1d6

1 6-Sided Dice: (4) = 4

[mccoyn]

The first one takes it. I will move 3 to Japan.

Kamchatka (4) will attack Yakutsk (1)
1:

Original Roll String: 3d6

3 6-Sided Dice: (3, 3, 4) = 10

Original Roll String: 1d6

1 6-Sided Dice: (4) = 4

[mccoyn]

The first roll takes it and 3 move into Yakutsk.

Greenland (4) attacks Iceland (4).
1:

Original Roll String: 3d6

3 6-Sided Dice: (3, 2, 2) = 7

Original Roll String: 2d6

2 6-Sided Dice: (5, 1) = 6

[mccoyn]

We each lose 1 leaving 3 on each country. I will stop that attack. That ends my attack phase.

I will move one troop from Japan (3) to Kamchatka (1) leaving 2 in each.

Changes this turn:

Greenland has 3.
Kamchatka has 2.
Yakutsk was occupied and has 3.
Japan was occupied and has 2.
Iceland, which belongs to The Silent Speaker, has 3.

After I get my card I will have 4 cards.

[mccoyn]

CoolBot, I just want to point something out to you. Even if you turn in cards your chances of taking me out completly are low. If you do turn in cards, it will give The Silent Speaker more troops when he turns in and he will probally take me out and get my cards.

[mccoyn]

I've PM'd my 4 cards to you.

[mccoyn]

I win the first. 7 armies move in. W. Europe-N. Africa (4).

It looks like that is a mistake on the map. North Africa should have had 1.