Screw the players - Bad Idea - Game Over

[Alan Redgown]

Wait, the mafia don't know who's /in either, right?

[Alan Redgown]

I really hope most of the people shooting Jordan are /out or scum.

[Alan Redgown]

I would hope all of those who shot are /out or scum. If any of them are townies, we (the town) are in trouble. Not to say that I'm /in (even though I just did ).

[Alan Redgown]

Well, if Jordan was shot, now we have no idea who it was. I suppose that's why so many /outies/scum shot him: to confuse the /innies, and it's possible at least one /innie fell for it and jumped on the bandwagon.

Oh, and

Shoo...

Haha, just kidding. I, for one, am very not clueless.

[Alan Redgown]

sorry to everybody for being such a quickpuller on this day!

Regret I did my shoot now; I agree there should have been more discussion. For a moment this morning I was just 100% sure he was scum, so I acted to quickly.

You really shouldn't go on gut instincts like that. It's nice that we can kill people based on hunches in this game, except you probably wasted another bullet.

EDIT: Table of people who have posted in this thread, minus Kaleidoscope's two usernames:
[mrow]Player[col]# of Posts[col]Posting Order[col]Status Alan Redgown[col]5 bird1111[col]7 Bookitty[col]5 brokenscraps[col]2 Cephrir[col]3 CornerMan[col]4 destructor[col]4 Draux[col]5 Elias_the_thief[col]2 Elmo[col]4 Guardian[col]4 hasdgfas[col]7 Hjallti[col]12 Iammars[col]5 Iceforge[col]7 JDodge[col]1 JordanA24[col]12 Kinetic[col]2 klebian[col]3 mnowax[col]1 oEJo[col]9 OhGodMyLife[col]1 PokerFace[col]9 Rishi[col]9 skitzer[col]12 Thestatusquo[col]4 Thyroidectomy[col]1 Vaughn[col]1 xyzzy[col]3 YagamiLight[col]6 YvonneSeer[col]1

I think it's fairly safe to assume that contained within this table are the 12 /innies. (The table is a work-in-progress.)

[Alan Redgown]

Here is a brief summary of my opinions on each player:

Alan Redgown- (I know my status.)
bird1111- Has been active since the beginning of the game. /innie.
Bookitty- Not overly active, seems to be acting. /outie.
brokenscraps- Very inactive, has only commented a few times. /outie.
Cephrir- Seems to care about the game. /innie.
CornerMan- Likely target of the mafia last night. /outie.
destructor- Just...seems like an /innie.
Draux- Not very active, seems like an /outie.
Elias_the_thief- Only 2 posts? Seems extremely /outie.
Elmo- Short posts, seems like a mere spectator. /outie.
Guardian- Doesn't seem to have read the rules. /outie.
hasdgfas- Also just seems like an /innie.
Hjallti- Has actually analyzed the game some. /innie.
Iammars- Seems to be /innie.
Iceforge- /innie.
JDodge- Can't judge. Probably /innie, but may have been pulling our leg even with such a short post.
JordanA24- Definitely /outie.
Kinetic- /outie. I doubt he would have validly claimed scum.
klebian- /outie, based on inactivity.
mnowax- /outie, based on inactivity.
oEJo- Has kept up with the game, and even asked the mod to clarify something. Probably /innie.
OhGodMyLife- 1 post. /outie.
PokerFace- Has been planning and suspecting. /innie.
Rishi- I do believe he really is an /outie.
skitzer- Very active. /innie, methinks.
Thestatusquo- Well, let's see. He's shot three people so far this round. Probably /outie.
Thyroidectomy- Only post: "I like the town to win games. I'm an /out". Yes, he is an /outie.
Vaughn- Another one-poster. /outie.
xyzzy- Not much to say. /outie, most likely.
YagamiLight- Seems to care about wasted bullets and such. /innie. (Also, <3 Death Note.)
YvonneSeer- One post. Shot Jordan. /outie or bare-minimum scum.

I mostly made this list for my own benefit, and I thought I might as well post it. It's brief and uninformative, but those are my basic analysis results. So, I ended up narrowing it down to about 13 people who I think are most likely to be /innies (counting myself and Jordan). However, the scum are probably among the people I've determined to be /outies. Hmm...

[Alan Redgown]

Well, I usually go on the theory that the more information the town gathers, the better off they are. And yes, a good portion of my list is opinionated. oEJo, you're welcome, although I didn't really finish my table yet. That's about all I have to say right now.

[Alan Redgown]

Ok. Can the townies please stop being ignorant and mistakenly shooting other townies? You're being tricked by the /outies/scum. Just because 15 different non-townies shoot someone doesn't mean you should. I don't believe this game is supposed to be a joke, so please stop treating it like one. Now, I think the reckless townies have already wasted their bullets, so that's out of the way.

[Alan Redgown]

I'm thinking PokerFace is scum.

I find this interesting because I had that same feeling earlier. Hmm...

[Alan Redgown]

Iceforge, I'm not sure I entirely understand your plan, but it seems like a waste of bullets. Thank you for your table and lists, however. Like I said, information + opinions = good for the town.
I still think JDodge is trying to trick us, and is an /out. But his posts are convincing, as if he's been prodded a couple of times. I think that's the bare minimum you can get away with.

[Alan Redgown]

If you're /out, then prove it. Shoot me.

Ugh...That still won't prove she's /out. It will prove she's /out or scum.

[Alan Redgown]

Vote:
Shooter: Rishi
Target: PokerFace

Yes! Now there's a pretty awesome idea. Good thinking, Iceforge. I'll also

Vote:
Shooter: Rishi
Target: PokerFace

[Alan Redgown]

Or, he could just not post anymore. Even if we did have him shoot we don't prove he's /out, he can be /out or scum if the shot doesn't work. The only thing we can prove with having someone who claims /out shoot someone is if they are really a townie.

Right. /outies, get out of here!

[Alan Redgown]

Wouldn't claiming /out be just as good for townies as for scum?

And with his high postcount, I assume Rishi is a veteran player, who wouldn't go for an unlikely to work strat.

I'm not so sure about this part. Sometimes you have to take risks in order to succeed. I think experienced players can still play the WIFOM game.

[Alan Redgown]

Vote:
Shooter: PokerFace
Target: Rishi

Top of the page please-don't-shoot-me dance!

[Alan Redgown]

I'm surprised I haven't been shot yet. Are you telling me not a single townie wants to kill me?

I do know you're playing a huge WIFOM game. If you are scum, you've got guts. But I think it is very improbable that you are scum, and I hope that no one is deceived into wasting a bullet on you.

[Alan Redgown]

You should only count the ins, so it 1-1 really at the moment.

????

only count the ins?

so only one among Destructor, Ice Forge, and Alan are in?

Since when were two of them out?

I know forge is in he shot skitzer.

Explain Hjallti!

Hehe, yeah, of course I'm /out. Didn't you realize that?

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[Alan Redgown]

try shooting someone. If you fail, youre /out or scum.

Also,

slap: lemon demon

I hope you're only slapping the avatar. Otherwise, I'll have to

kick: Elias_the_thief

in a painful area.

[Alan Redgown]

try shooting someone. If you fail, youre /out or scum.

Also,

slap: lemon demon

I hope you're only slapping the avatar. Otherwise, I'll have to

kick: Elias_the_thief

in a painful area.

is it the toe?

No, I mean where it really hurts. I'd kick you in your

funny bone

!

[Alan Redgown]

I concur, but I think we should shoot Guardian. That scum tried to shoot me!

Hehe, this after you yourself claimed to be scum, eh?

[Alan Redgown]

I concur, but I think we should shoot Guardian. That scum tried to shoot me!

Hehe, this after you yourself claimed to be scum, eh?

Obviously! Guardian is my partner! I can't kill him, you need to kill him for me!

I find this post somewhat hilarious.

[Alan Redgown]

I don't understand why everyone is waiting;:

Shoot:Rishi

Well, now we won't know who really shot Rishi, if he gets shot. But as was previously stated, it might be better not to know who's /in and who's /out/scum, since dividing people into those subgroups doesn't help us much, but it helps the mafia a good deal.

[Alan Redgown]

That makes 6 people who have shot Rishi, including Rishi himself. I wonder if people can even shoot themselves. I guess it doesn't matter; hopefully no townie would be stupid enough to shoot himself. I think it's safe to say Rishi's dead by now, but that doesn't mean other people should shoot him. It's unlikely but still possible that we're looking at 6 /outs/scums here. Well, at least there's action here.

[Alan Redgown]

If, by some chance, Rishi didn't get shot, someone shoot Cephrir.

No.

Also, if hasdgfas does shoot PokerFace tomorrow, I would ask people

not to follow his lead

. If hasdgfas is unable to shoot PokerFace, I say we shoot him (hasdgfas). He had the fifth post in this thread, and has been fairly active, so I find it unlikely that he's /out.

[Alan Redgown]

hasdgfas is scum

destructor is scum

If, by some chance, Rishi didn't get shot, someone shoot Cephrir.

I claimed townie with a bullet. Why does everyone think shooting me is a good idea?

They obviously don't believe your claim.

[Alan Redgown]

Wait a sec.

- mnowax shot Pokerface in 270.
- Guardian shot Kinetic in 280.

KScope posted since these shots...

Mod: Does this mean none of these shots went through?

If so, we can be certain neither of these players are town, at least.

- Shanba shot Jordan in 288 (/out or scum)

mnowax isn't an /in townie.

[Alan Redgown]

The outs have their win conditions, they were hit by both sides. I don't need to do anything now. I hope I have helped enough.

The /outs have win conditions? I didn't think the /outs could ever win.

EDIT: The only two people to shoot Cephrir were mnowax and destructor. mnowax is not a townie, so destructor must have been Cephrir's killer. Also, JDodge, Hjallti, Rishi, PokerFace, and oEJo are /out/scum.

Right now, JDodge is the only one whose situation is really ticking me off. It seems as if he's only posted when prodded, but he's not a townie. Is he scum, or is he an /out acting like scum?

destructor, that's pointless, as we know PokerFace does not have a bullet (it would have been used on Rishi yesterday). Both PokerFace and Rishi are /out/scum, so neither can shoot the other.

Ok, so we still have seven bullets, and there are two scum remaining. Remember that each night, the mafia gets closer to deducing who the /in townies are. Today, I think we should shoot one of the following: PokerFace, Rishi, JDodge.

[Alan Redgown]

EBWOP: they're not even in the game so a win condition doesn't make logical sense.

Maybe we're in a separate concurrently running game?

What? Ooh, I want to be an annoying /out in that game!

[Alan Redgown]

Obligatory link to Andrew Kepple's awesome Flash video of the Lemon Demon song with the same name as this game.

[Alan Redgown]

Alan, another of those list thingies would be nice, if possible.

Actually, I've already started on another list. It's in spreadsheet form, so I'll probably upload it to Google Docs & Spreadsheets.

[Alan Redgown]

I think this is the first day the town could potentially lose on... the tension is rising!

Oh, you're right. We should just shoot randomly at people, then!

I mean...don't. Because that would be a Bad Idea.

[Alan Redgown]

If I won't shoot, I'm definitely scum? How about a townie who doesn't want to lose the game yet? If Hjallti isn't scum and I shoot him, then the town loses. Well, it's down to two townies with bullets, and I'm one of them. I agree I should shoot today, but I'm not going to do it right away. I think we need more discussion first. And I need some time to think things over.

To the other remaining townie with a bullet, I have two requests. First, please don't shoot me, unless you want the scum to win. Second, please let me be the one to shoot and end the day; I suspect I'll be scumkilled if I don't use my bullet today. I think these requests are fairly simple, since people want me to shoot today anyway.

Now it's time to look over everyone's posts and make a final decision on whom to shoot.

EDIT:

@Alan, why do you believe just Jdodge, Rishi and me should be shot? Jdodge started the wagon. You think scum would give themselves away by STARTING a wagon? Could you explain more why you believe he could be scum and more so than the others? What about Hjallti and oEJo?

I posted that a while ago now, and my opinions have changed greatly. I highly doubt that JDodge is scum, and Rishi obviously isn't. I don't think you're scum either. Hjallti and oEJo do seem like likely suspects now, and at the time I probably just overlooked them. At the time of that post, I also said that JDodge's posting habits were really ticking me off, but that wasn't reason to suspect him as scum. I don't think any of this pertains to the current situation, however.

[Alan Redgown]

Wait. According to the list in the first post, there are still three townies with bullets. Is that accurate?

Also, PokerFace, you seem pretty eager to figure out who are /out/scum. Shouldn't we be focusing on who we think are scum, rather than /out/scum?

EDIT: I'm working on the spreadsheet now, but I don't want to post a link until it's finished.

Ok, the following question is significant, as it could help us narrow down our suspects, at least by a little bit: Who do you guys think the four shooters were?

1. Shot Jordan:
a. CornerMan
b. YvonneSeer
c. Cephrir
d. Klebian
e. Thestatusquo
2. Shot Skitzer:
a. Iceforge
3. Shot Cephrir:
a. Mnowax
b. Destructor
4. Shot Rishi:
a. Guardian
b. Kinetic

(I'm aware that some of those people definitely didn't shoot certain victims, but please don't point that out. I want to see people's individual opinions/thoughts.)

[Alan Redgown]

Sorry, I didn't see that last post, but I have edited my previous post. Please read the edit. Also, I've had this page open for a while, but I wasn't writing my post that whole time.

[Alan Redgown]

If Alan Redgown is scum, he deserves to win due to all the effort he's put into this game.

I'm not scum, but thanks anyway!

I would still like people to comment on who they think the four killers were.

[Alan Redgown]

Guardian, you weren't killer 4. You never even had a bullet.

EDIT:

And yet you think I am not scum.

Where did I say that? In my list I said you were probably an /innie. Later, when Elmo said that he thought you were scum, I said that I had had the same feeling. Plus, you are /out/scum with the highest post count in this thread (54). Actually, you are one of my prime suspects right now.

[Alan Redgown]

Guardian, you weren't killer 4. You never even had a bullet.

EDIT:

And yet you think I am not scum.

Where did I say that?

In my list I said you were probably an /innie. Later, when Elmo said that he thought you were scum, I said that I had had the same feeling. Plus, you are /out/scum with the highest post count in this thread (54). Actually, you are one of my prime suspects right now.

If I won't shoot, I'm definitely scum? How about a townie who doesn't want to lose the game yet? If Hjallti isn't scum and I shoot him, then the town loses. Well, it's down to two townies with bullets, and I'm one of them. I agree I should shoot today, but I'm not going to do it right away. I think we need more discussion first. And I need some time to think things over.

To the other remaining townie with a bullet, I have two requests. First, please don't shoot me, unless you want the scum to win. Second, please let me be the one to shoot and end the day; I suspect I'll be scumkilled if I don't use my bullet today. I think these requests are fairly simple, since people want me to shoot today anyway.

Now it's time to look over everyone's posts and make a final decision on whom to shoot.

EDIT:

@Alan, why do you believe just Jdodge, Rishi and me should be shot? Jdodge started the wagon. You think scum would give themselves away by STARTING a wagon? Could you explain more why you believe he could be scum and more so than the others? What about Hjallti and oEJo?

I posted that a while ago now, and my opinions have changed greatly. I highly doubt that JDodge is scum, and Rishi obviously isn't.

I don't think you're scum either

. [/u]Hjallti and oEJo do seem like likely suspects now, and at the time I probably just overlooked them. At the time of that post, I also said that JDodge's posting habits were really ticking me off, but that wasn't reason to suspect him as scum. I don't think any of this pertains to the current situation, however.

!YOU FAIL!

!Somebody shoot him!

Oh, right. I forgot about that. But people, please don't shoot me over something so small. My opinions changed, and I said that I didn't suspect PokerFace before I took a good look at him. Well, if anyone really wants to shoot me, please warn me first so I can use my bullet.

EDIT:

Let's find out if Guardian was a townie or not.

Shoot:Alan

This shot doesn't scare me in the slightest. Why? Guardian shot you during Day 3, but you didn't die. Instead Cephrir, who was shot much later, died. Hence, Guardian is not a townie.

[Alan Redgown]

You are making/have made a spreadsheet. Right?

Right.

Therefore you should already have quite a good look.

Correct.

Edit: You had your notes from earlier so I'm sure you still have them now. You should be building upon your old notes.

Yes indeed.

And for those that have mised it I am an /out. Hasdfgas tricked me into revealing that earlier.

Please cite the posts in which hasdgfas tricked you into revealing you're an /out.

Then we learned that Hasdfgas doesn't have a bullet.

He doesn't.

So you think whatever you want there. I got no clue what he is. I originally thought he was scum. Then he shot so I thought he was town. Then his bullet didn't work. So your guess is as good as mine there.

Alan what do you think of oEJo, Hjallti, and Hasdfgas?

You and all three of them are currently in my top 9 suspect list. This list isn't based on my opinions but on process of elimination. That means that I don't personally suspect all 9 of these people, but I haven't found valid reasons to eliminate them from the list. If the people in my top 9 are not scum, they are /out. Anyway, here's the list:

* hasdgfas
* Hjallti
* PokerFace
* Guardian
* oEJo
* YagamiLight
* Elias_the_thief
* Elmo
* Thestatusquo

PokerFace, if hasdgfas indeed tricked you into revealing you're an /outie, then either you're /out or, chances are, you're scumbuddies. Another possible scum pair seems to be you and Hjallti. If you read through the thread again, it seems that you have tried to distance yourself from him many times, and now you're basically trying to get him shot. I'd like to hear what scumpairs other people think are likely.

Ok, so you want to know my opinions on oEJo, Hjallti, and PokerFace.

oEJo

has been a particularly shady character in this game. In his first few posts, he asked about strategies and didn't want people to kill Jordan so quickly. This seems to indicate /in-ness. He asked for a rules clarification and tells the /outies to shoot more people. He poses an interesting situation about an /outie trying to talk to an /innie about Screw the Players and says he's getting frustrated with all the random shooting. He asks for another clarification and then says that since everyone knows he's /out/scum, he doesn't have to pretend to be helpful, but

he'll still post here.

It would obviously be better if he didn't post here anymore. Then his posts are mostly spam, and he says he's scum. Finally, he says the mod got his name mixed up with Rishi's not his role. This is basically claiming scum once again. There's definitely a chance that oEJo is scum.

Hjallti

has mostly acted /in. He has posted regularly, and let's hope he doesn't post again. He has said that he thought destructor and I were /out, but we're both townies (although my identity has yet to be confirmed). Possibly scum, but less likely than oEJo, in my opinion.

hasdgfas

has posted regularly and has demonstrated a fine understanding of the rules. And yet he's /out/scum. He FoS'd me for trying to lead the town and said it seems like PokerFace is scum. In his last post, he said that he still thinks I'm scum.

Those are brief summaries of those three, but they sum up their behaviors. Assuming CornerMan shot Jordan, Thestatusquo is still a suspect, even if alll he's done this entire game is shoot people. That is a good way to lurk, though. Guardian has been saying he's /out this entire game, but he continues to post regularly, so it's definitely possible he's scum. He has acted somewhat aggressively for an /out while trying to appear passive. Elias_the_thief is either /out or a mega-lurker scum. Elmo has not contributed to the game much, and I think he's /out, although he could be a townie or scum. Finally, YagamiLight seems to care about the game, but that's not exactly indicative of his role.

Ok, so PokerFace, please quote those posts I asked you to quote.

EDIT: Oh, right. Happy birthday, PokerFace!

[Alan Redgown]

You realize I've fired at least 3 times this game, right?

KILL ALAN REDCORN

Oops make that 4.

Actually, someone's always died before you shot. Surprisingly, it's possible that you still have a bullet, and also possible that you're scum.

EDIT: However, if you are a townie, you're an extremely reckless townie. That's why you're number 7 on my suspect list.

[Alan Redgown]

Now I'm trying to decide whether to shoot PokerFace or Thestatusquo.

EDIT: Fellow townies, I hope you will allow me to be today's shooter. Everyone, please vote on who you think I should shoot.

[Alan Redgown]

post

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consectetuer adipiscing elit!

FUSCE BIBENDUM LIBERO VEL TELLUS! Donec eu VELIT QUIS nibh PHARETA IMPERDIET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

(I was going to use profanity at seeing Guardian post after a prod, but I chose angry-looking Lorem Ipsum instead. )

[Alan Redgown]

wait maybe it does help us find scum. t ranslation?

Translation:
Lorem itself pain he is amet consectetuer to come up to elit! FUSCE

Shoot:PokerFace

BIBENDUM TO SET FREE OR Region! Up to the time when good SKIRMISH ANYONE nibh A QUIVER IMPERDIET!

EDIT: Lorem ipsum might have originally derived from a Latin passage, but it's now as Latin as Pig Latin. Basically, it's a bunch of random Latin words strung together. They might have some meaning, but it's usually nothing much.

[Alan Redgown]

Well, it's a shame PokerFace was really /out. Now we have to get it right or we lose.

I stand by my previous suspect list, minus PokerFace:
* Elias_the_thief
* Elmo
* Guardian
* hasdgfas
* Hjallti
* Iammars
* oEJo
* Thestatusquo
* YagamiLight

I'm 99% sure that both scum are somewhere within that list.

Also, the updated player list:
1. CornerMan, Thestatusquo, or some other inactive townie (Townie) - Shot JordanA24 during day 1
2. Alan Redgown (Townie) - Shot PokerFace during day 5
3. Townie
4. Skitzer (Townie) - Shot during day 2
5. Mafia
6. Iceforge (Townie) - Shot Skitzer during day 2
7. Townie
8. Bird1111 (Townie) - Shot by scum during night 2
9. destructor (Townie) - Shot Cephrir during day 3
10. Mafia
11. JordanA24 (Townie) - Shot during day 1
12. Kinetic (Townie) - Shot Rishi during day 4

Right now, I'm thinking I shot the wrong guy with playing cards in his avatar.

[Alan Redgown]

From that list, EJ is probably /in.

His inness isn't what's important. Is he town or scum?

EDIT:

Guardian, if you're not /in with a bullet and you're not scum, stop posting. Otherwise, you need to be shot.

If he's /out, he's anti-town, and if he's anti-town, he wants to be shot. And if he's /out, we can't shoot him.

EDIT2:

Shoot: everyone but myself

. I only have one bullet? Nonsense! *pulls out ammo box*

[Alan Redgown]

I made a table for the top 9 on my suspect list:

[mrow]Player[col]Post Count[col]First Post #[col]First Post Page[col]First Post Date[col]Claim[col]Status[col]Last Post #[col]Last Post Page[col]Last Post Date Elias_the_thief[col]14[col]40[col]2[col]Dec 11, 2007[col]-[col]Unknown[col]504[col]21[col]Jan 5, 2008 Elmo[col]14[col]50[col]3[col]Dec 11, 2007[col]-[col]Unknown[col]538[col]22[col]Jan 10, 2008 Guardian[col]22[col]14[col]1[col]Dec 11, 2007[col]/out[col]/out or scum[col]533[col]22[col]Jan 8, 2008 hasdgfas[col]36[col]5[col]1[col]Dec 11, 2007[col]-[col]/out or scum[col]532[col]22[col]Jan 8, 2008 Hjallti[col]23[col]9[col]1[col]Dec 11, 2007[col]-[col]/out or scum[col]426[col]18[col]Dec 30, 2007 Iammars[col]15[col]25[col]2[col]Dec 11, 2007[col]-[col]Unknown[col]540[col]22[col]Jan 10, 2008 oEJo[col]31[col]16[col]1[col]Dec 11, 2007[col]scum[col]/out or scum[col]522[col]21[col]Jan 6, 2008 Thestatusquo[col]9[col]73[col]3[col]Dec 11, 2007[col]-[col]/out, scum, or Jordan's killer[col]497[col]20[col]Jan 5, 2008 YagamiLight[col]28[col]28[col]2[col]Dec 11, 2007[col]-[col]Unknown[col]529[col]22[col]Jan 8, 2008
hasdgfas has the highest post count, while Thestatusquo has the lowest. Is hasdgfas a very active goon, or is Thestatusquo super-lurker scum? I'm not so sure either of them are mafia, but I do wonder whether scum have higher post counts or lower ones. I do believe Hjallti is /out, since he hasn't posted in over a week. That brings me to eight suspects.

My vote isn't set in stone, but for now I'll

Vote:
Shooter: Kira
Target: EJ

.

[Alan Redgown]

Three shots: one obviously fake, one technically possible but highly unlikely, and one suicidal. It's...a good thing oEJo's not a townie.

[Alan Redgown]

You can't prove anything!

*Alan Redgown sighs.

Yes I can: You shot Rishi Day Three, but Cephrir died by destructor's bullet later that day.

[Alan Redgown]

EDIT: I don't care that he has a horn in the middle of his head. It was a quick job.

[Alan Redgown]

Whoever is still /in with a bullet needs to shoot

me

or else we're not going to get anywhere.

Fixed. Even if you're an /outie, you're definitely anti-town. The last thing we want right now is a quick kill.

[Alan Redgown]

Ok, you just said that whoever is /in with a bullet should shoot someone. I took that to mean someone should shoot soon.

[Alan Redgown]

hasdgfas is scum

No No... Guess again!

hasdgfas and oEJo are scum

[Alan Redgown]

hasdgfas, you just said that a quick kill is the last thing you want. So why do you keep telling people to shoot?

Discussion = good. Suddenly taking a huge risk and possibly losing the game for the town = bad. It's that simple.

I'll change my vote slightly:

Vote:
Shooter: YagamiLight
Target: oEJo or hasdgfas

YagamiLight is almost definitely /in, but he hasn't shot once all game. For us to determine whether he's scum or not, he's going to have to shoot. And if he is a townie, and he doesn't shoot today, I think there's a good chance he'll be scumkilled tonight. Therefore, Raito should be today's shooter.

[Alan Redgown]

Discussion = good. Suddenly taking a huge risk and possibly losing the game for the town = bad. It's that simple.

Nobody is discussing at this point, though, which is the problem with that plan.

Well, people need to start discussing. I don't think we should shoot someone yet, unless we want to lose (although the town losing will affect you personally either positively or not at all).

[Alan Redgown]

hasdgfas, you just said that a quick kill is the last thing you want. So why do you keep telling people to shoot?

Discussion = good. Suddenly taking a huge risk and possibly losing the game for the town = bad. It's that simple.

I'll change my vote slightly:

Vote:
Shooter: YagamiLight
Target: oEJo or hasdgfas

YagamiLight is almost definitely /in, but he hasn't shot once all game. For us to determine whether he's scum or not, he's going to have to shoot. And if he is a townie, and he doesn't shoot today, I think there's a good chance he'll be scumkilled tonight. Therefore, Raito should be today's shooter.

Right-oh, if enough people want me to shoot now I will, I really wanted to be the last person to shoot though.

I also wanted to be the last person to shoot, at one point. But people wanted me to shoot, and I didn't want to get shot, because that would be two wasted bullets and a scum win. I really think you should shoot today, though. If I were scum, I would definitely target you tonight, assuming I hadn't already targeted you and you're not scum.

Sorry, I'm probably not helping.

EDIT: Hey, here's an idea. Everyone send YagamiLight a photograph of your face and your real name, and everyone but Yagami will die, resulting in a town victory.

[Alan Redgown]

EDIT: Hey, here's an idea. Everyone send YagamiLight a photograph of your face and your real name, and everyone but Yagami will die, resulting in a town victory.

They have to do something criminal first. So everyone doing this go rob a bank or something, because if I kill someone innocent, then I got to do the same to myself.

Oh, come on. You've killed people who've threatened you before. How about

that detective guy with a one-letter name

?

[Alan Redgown]

oEJo is obcviosoly lmlads. I mean still alive.

[Alan Redgown]

i suggest that we shoot thestatusquo. he's obviously up to something.

QFT

QFT

SHOOT: TSQ

Ok, thanks for eliminating the possibility that you (still) have a bullet.

[Alan Redgown]

You know what, there was a better way for me to do this.

oEJo - Death by bullet wound through the heart.

I know your avatar, your name has been written.

Haha, good point. This is a forum game, so you don't need his real name and face, just his username and avatar.

EDIT: You should be a daytime vigilante with unlimited bullets in every game you play.

[Alan Redgown]

Yes, Death Note.

[Alan Redgown]

Well, I sure hope oEJo is a player. YagamiLight killed him both manually and magically.

[Alan Redgown]

I'd shoot Elias right now if I still had a bullet. But since I don't...

Shoot: Elias_the_thief and Flameaxe!

EDIT:

Mod, has anyone died? It's been over 24 hours.

[Alan Redgown]

Vote:
Shooter: Elias_the_thief
Target: oEJo, hasdgfas, Thestatusquo, or YagamiLight

I can't decide.

EDIT:

Btw, I'm not going to stop posting.

I know.

[Alan Redgown]

hi. bluehost has been hating me of late.

Bluehost hates everyone.

QFT?

*sigh*...QFT.

[Alan Redgown]

quoted for losery? O.O

I like how this thread has turned into quote pyramid central. I approve.

Quoted for lies.

[Alan Redgown]

I was a townie; I replaced someone, I think it was shanba.

This was pretty much impossible, albeit the town really did suck horribly. I mean, if you look at all the calls for more discussion, that would have been good; I

said

recently that cow was probably playing jester, and that Elias should be shooting.

Edit: Right before that, I also said Elias might be /in if he was hardcore lurking, but I was unsure because we didn't know the activity rules.

*shrug*

Hehe, I was wondering if we had any replacements. I was a little worried about the possibility of JDGA being a replacement. (He joined late, but was fairly active.)

So, I tried as hard as I could, but...I think it's safe to say the scum had a huge advantage in this game. Yes, more discussion would definitely have helped, and it's too bad certain townies had to be so hasty in their shootings. I think we should have agreed to reach a majority vote to end the day.

But...come on. Couldn't we have at least had a cop?

EDIT: Elias_the_thief and brokenscraps, good game. Still, I think a couple of monkeys could ultralurk and win just as easily. But no offense to you two. Lurking was basically the best tactic in this game.

[Alan Redgown]

[quote="Iammars"]Yeah, I was lurking as town to make sure that there would be a bullet left in the endgame. Tell the truth, did you guys even consider killing me?[/quote]
Hardly. You were tenth on my suspect list of nine, and I was pretty convinced you were out.

[quote="KaleiÐoscøpe"]Elmo was the last townie, who replaced mole.[/quote]
lol, anagrams

[quote="KaleiÐoscøpe"]cornerman shot jordan.[/quote]
So it

was

Cornerman. I thought about that possibility after it was said that bulletless townies were considered /out.

[Alan Redgown]

My goal in this game was to convince everyone that I was playing. The only way I figured that would happen was to keep insisting that I was /out while posting regularly. I guess it worked.

Hahahahah-Darn /out!

[Alan Redgown]

who did the scum try to kill at night?

[Alan Redgown]

Interestingly, the smiley was originally intended to indicate a post not intended to be taken seriously. The opposite, , was not meant to indicate sadness or frustration, but instead seriousness.

[Alan Redgown]

Shoot: JDGA

[Alan Redgown]

Shoot: brokenscraps