Screw the players - Bad Idea - Game Over

[YagamiLight]

Jordan, why would anybody who shoots be under massive suspicion? It would be bad play, but if it kills someone then we know they are town. If no one dies from the shot then the shooter could have been scum or /out.

[YagamiLight]

Alan, you only know if you're /in or not, and mafia also know who their /in partner is. So townies know one /in, themselves, and mafia know two, themselves and their partner.
CornerMan, that was a really bad move if you're /in and town. You just wasted one of our

limited

bullets to prove yourself town, and may have even killed a town. When we're out of bullets we lose, so we can't waste bullets like that.

[YagamiLight]

[quote="KaleiÐoscøpe"]I've decided to cut the playerlist to twelve, with 2 scum. It makes it more enjoyable if the outies are in more numbers, as they would be in a small amount in case of 20 players. Sign ups will end tomorrow.[/quote]Nope skitzer, only 2, unless he went back after this. Did he and I missed it?

[YagamiLight]

I haven't decided the strategy I'm going to play by yet, until I do I'm just posting whatever. My current favorite idea is to save my bullet for use as one of the last 3 bullets, in a showdown style with my intended target, have someone else post fire at any time, and the first of us to fire. Of course that doesn't matter if my target is /out or scum as they can't shoot anyways.

[YagamiLight]

Well, that was a wasted bullet by some townie on Jordan. Maybe this time we could be a bit more careful. Also, looking at the playerlist, I'm assuming the first person to sign up for this game was the one who shot Jordan. Just based on the fat that Jordan came up number 11, not that that will help us much.

[YagamiLight]

Wow, I hope you aren't /in town. That's probably a little better than the jordan shot, but a little discussion before killing someone would be nice.

[YagamiLight]

shoot: Cephrir

You do realize that you would have already used your shot on pokerface right?

[YagamiLight]

So, would asking the person who lost their shot yesterday to claim a good idea?

Even should we ask there is no way to know for sure the person who claimed is the real deal and not a /out pretending to be the one who completed the shot. Not to mention that we will probably get claims from the one /in who did shoot, any scum who pretended to shoot, and /out who pretended to shoot.

[YagamiLight]

alan, while I appreciate your tables and all, doesn't posting them give the scum less people to choose from to shoot at? After all, they may agree with your analysis and just decide to NK people who you assume are /in. That table, while it's nice to see that someone is thinking about it, doesn't really help the town AT ALL. We're supposed to be hunting for scum, not just determining who is /in. Although it's bad to waste bullets on /outies, it might be a better idea for each /innie to try to determine who is /in on their own.
1) Like I said before, if there is a list of suspected /innies, the scum have a better chance of hitting /innies and making the game done with faster.
2) It's only your opinion, other people might disagree.

FoS: Alan

you seem to be trying to lead the town.

If the town doesn't know who's /in in the first place how do we hit scum? Scum already can all talk about who is /in and compare notes. Individual town is just one head thinking about who they think is /in, we should have the same benefit as the scum by all comparing.

[YagamiLight]

It's day 3 and we're already down to half our shots. Got to make them count. A problem we may come across later is the townie who shot day 1. If we ask anyone from the Jordan group to shoot and the shot doesn't work, we wouldn't get any info as they'll probably claim the /in who shot. I brought this up because it seems to me that 1 of the mafia probably got on that wagon to claim to be the shooting /in if they comes under suspicion.

[YagamiLight]

No, my thoughts are that should any of them come under enough suspicion to be voted they be shot rather than voted to do the shooting. Should they claim to have their bullet, then we let them shoot. 1 of them is obviously town without a bullet. Since there are only five of them, I'm thinking that 3 of them are /out, and one is mafia. Both mafia may be on the list, but I doubt that, I also doubt that more than 1 /in town is on the list, but wouldn't be too surprised if there were 2. I"m very sure there are at least 2 /out on the list though.

[YagamiLight]

Yeah, but there would be counter claims for the real player too. There are going to be /out's who want to get the town to lose (I know I wanted to in the first screw the players), and by counter-claiming /out they could easily get wasted bullets. My point is that trying to get anyone to shoot from Jordan's wagon gathers us no info if they can't because they could just as easily be mafia counter claimed by the real shooter and /outs, /out's counter claimed the same as the mafia, or the shooter counter claimed by /outs. The only way we would know who was telling the truth is by killing one of them in the end. and right now with only 5 shots left we only have 3 extra.

[YagamiLight]

Well, no, I disagree. Later in the game what I said doesn't matter as much as without the /outs we'll only have the shooter and mafia claim, which makes it less worthwhile for the mafia if we still have extra shots as we could just shoot both. Without the extra shots then it's a very similar situation to what I said originally, with us having to figure out who is truthful. My point is that the /out's make a difference in what I was talking about, as they affect the whole game so long as they are here.

[YagamiLight]

Or, he could just not post anymore. Even if we did have him shoot we don't prove he's /out, he can be /out or scum if the shot doesn't work. The only thing we can prove with having someone who claims /out shoot someone is if they are really a townie.

[YagamiLight]

I'm fairly sure he's /out. Might be /in, just have a feeling he's /out.

[YagamiLight]

Someone asked if pm'ing is allowed, and the answer was no, wasn't it?

[YagamiLight]

You know this group shooting we're doing is a great way for the scum to hide. Same as Day 1, now there is no way we will know who the shooter was, and a scum could easily claim to have been the shooter, which wouldn't matter, as only a town in the group who didn't lose their bullet would do otherwise.

[YagamiLight]

I

lean to thinking Hjallti and oEJo are /outs because we well discussed what was wrong with the band shooting. It hides scum. Since we would imediatly suspect them as scum like yamagi said,

I doubt any scum would be dumb enough to do it any more.

/outs would gladly get on and start a wagon cause well let's face it /outs

want to be shot.

confirm vote!

I don't. It's still a good idea for scum with all the /out's doing it.

[YagamiLight]

Sorry for my lack of posting (how long has it been? I don't really know) There has been a lack of stuff to say, and it was Christmas.
Also

*does the someone-shot-me dance*

Pssst, guys, you may want to think about who shot Jordan

Cephrir's right, we may be able to figure out who shot Jordan with like a 90% certainty.

[YagamiLight]

The /out can continue to post after being shot. Why not, it's like we're in a dark room, the /in's all actually have bodies, and the /outs are just voices. You can shoot them all you want but you're just going to hit air.

[YagamiLight]

I agree with pokerface.

Vote:
Shooter: Alan
Target: Hjallti

[YagamiLight]

It's shinier than yours.

[YagamiLight]

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[YagamiLight]

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[YagamiLight]

At a glance it does look like Latin though.

[YagamiLight]

Well, the only similarities is they both start with an L and have an i in them.

[YagamiLight]

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[YagamiLight]

We can do it.

The /out can continue to post after being shot. Why not, it's like we're in a dark room, the /in's all actually have bodies, and the /outs are just voices. You can shoot them all you want but you're just going to hit air.

We'll just need to turn on the lights before we shoot.

[YagamiLight]

hasdgfas, you just said that a quick kill is the last thing you want. So why do you keep telling people to shoot?

Discussion = good. Suddenly taking a huge risk and possibly losing the game for the town = bad. It's that simple.

I'll change my vote slightly:

Vote:
Shooter: YagamiLight
Target: oEJo or hasdgfas

YagamiLight is almost definitely /in, but he hasn't shot once all game. For us to determine whether he's scum or not, he's going to have to shoot. And if he is a townie, and he doesn't shoot today, I think there's a good chance he'll be scumkilled tonight. Therefore, Raito should be today's shooter.

Right-oh, if enough people want me to shoot now I will, I really wanted to be the last person to shoot though.

[YagamiLight]

EDIT: Hey, here's an idea. Everyone send YagamiLight a photograph of your face and your real name, and everyone but Yagami will die, resulting in a town victory.

They have to do something criminal first. So everyone doing this go rob a bank or something, because if I kill someone innocent, then I got to do the same to myself.

[YagamiLight]

Yeah, but he was on to me. You guys aren't, this is all in my imagination, so it's okay.

[YagamiLight]

C'mon YL, just kill already.

Well, okay.

Shoot oEJo

[YagamiLight]

You know what, there was a better way for me to do this.

oEJo - Death by bullet wound through the heart.

I know your avatar, your name has been written.

[YagamiLight]

Pokerface, I missed that post when you first posted it, and would like to say you are wrong. In the first one I started it, was going to look town for a short time to become thought of as in, then just do an about face. Basically was just going to get people to think I'm /in, then act scummy. I just got really lazy, claimed /out, and stopped posting. Never really cared if scum shot me, I was going to try and set myself up for the final bullet from the town.
Btw, I'm not going to stop posting.

[YagamiLight]

I'm happy I was shot.