Micro 1044: A Normal Blitz V - Game Over

[Looker]

Yes. Animals.

VOTE: Jacket Because of you, Three still hates me

[Looker]

[Looker]

VOTE: Vanderscamp

[Looker]

Early game is where most feelings are hurt because the reasons behind wanting to murder someone are typically arbitrary and superficial.

VOTE: Little Green Wheels

who thinks up this?

VOTE: Jacket

Little Green Wheels is town I think, the post above me says so.

VOTE: Cape90 Why isn't your scum partner voting? Are they trying not to 'poke the bear'?

[Looker]

And the sooner you kill someone, the less they get to play, so I can see why someone would get hyperdefensive and take it personally.

Spoiler:

Cape90, I hope you know that my vote on you means I personally dislike you and want you to die. You are horrible.

[Looker]

Spoiler:

Cape90, I hope you know that my vote on you means I personally dislike you and want you to die. You are horrible.

This is not acceptable, even in jest.

Little Green Wheels has requested replacement.
Datisi replaces Little Green Wheels.

O shit I am so sorry

Spoiler:

My joke was not funny and you didn't deserve that, Cape

[Looker]

It's difficult to read through arguments and differentiate between who's potentially contradicting scum and who's just getting out-communicated. What did Vanderscamp do? Was it just the catch-up post?

[Looker]

@Jacket: Why do you feel your wagon didn't go through?

Votecount 1.02

Jacket (3) -

Cape90, bugspray, Umlaut

Vanderscamp (1) -

Jacket

Dorsey (1) -

Vanderscamp

shiki (1) -

Dorsey

Cape90 (1) -

Looker

Not Voting (2) -

shiki, Datisi

With 9 players alive it takes 5 votes to eliminate.

The deadline for Day 1 is in (expired on 2022-02-08 01:00:00).

Votecount 1.04

Dorsey (2) -

Vanderscamp, Umlaut

Cape90 (2) -

Looker, Jacket

bugspray (2) -

Dorsey, Cape90

Jacket (1) -

bugspray

Umlaut (1) -

Datisi

Not Voting (1) -

shiki

With 9 players alive it takes 5 votes to eliminate.

The deadline for Day 1 is in (expired on 2022-02-08 01:00:00).

[Looker]

I'm struggling to come up with content that is not borderline offensive. Somebody accuse me of something.

[Looker]

I'm struggling to come up with content that is not borderline offensive. Somebody accuse me of something.

why do you think

you haven't been pressured?

in a game with players saying,

pressure players/make them produce content is the way to find the scums!

Because nobody wants to play with me because they've played with me before and know I'm not interesting.

(also i think the jacket wagon didn't go through because you unvoted and then i didn't push for jacket elimination/vote when i came to the thread

which makes me wonder why you are asking jacket why the jacket wagon didn't go through after you unvoted the wagon at e-1

like 'do you think you were not eliminated largely because of me?' seems kinda hm)

but also you're not really in the deep end of the suspect pool right now so

it's not really expected that your content would be

'see i'm town you're alive!'

Fair. I'm just curious why there are no prominent wagons regardless of where I put my vote. Usually I can see enough consistency in the votecounts to become unappealingly paranoid.

[Looker]

And I don't mind you answering. I finally have free time and feel like...talking?

[Looker]

VOTE: jacket

my vote stands

Does this matter or just trying to get to D2?

VOTE: bugspray

so that's all you got to say?

Is this just to get him to talk or are you going to eliminate him?

p-edit: Unless someone gets close to being eliminated or forces a claim, I see almost everything (especially in RVS) as reaction testing.

p-p-edit: I already apologized for that.

[Looker]

Spoiler: But I'm sorry!

I thought the sarcasm would transfer through but it didn't

[Looker]

I was afraid of this. Full disclosure: I only joined this game so that I could play with Dorsey, but now that she's dead (and for undisclosable reasons I have more time to devote to this thread), I know it's going to be an uphill battle and I'm willing to undertake it. Long story short, you killed my Ico and my Ico turned out to be scum.

[Looker]

Notes as I decide which behavior Dorsey and her partner most likely exhibited

Spoiler: Bus?

Have there been any games where there were no scum slots assigned? Like everyone was town and didn't know it? I want to read that one.

I wouldn't think so. Why is this a thought that popped in your head in regards to this game?

I think Dorsey has the highest chance of being scum because I really didn't like their read that shiki was scum for not voting.
Having that read in the first place was somewhat fair, but the part I really didn't like was him maintaining the read when shiki gave a pretty strong justification for it, including stating that not voting is something she often does.
I think what shiki had to say around that period was probably the towniest anyone has been this game and I dislike that Dorsey didn't pick up on that.
My townread on shiki is stronger than my scumread on Dorsey.

I still dislike Jacket's defensiveness and his reads, but I'm less sold on this being scum indicative now and more thinking it is just his playstyle to take things too seriously. The biggest part of me gaining this read was when he said "congratulations" when someone said they thought he might be a serious player or whatever it was.

I'm also happy to sheep Umlaut's read saying that Datisi wouldn't say they didn't want to kill Umlaut but then voting there anyway for a minor town lean.

Vander...I've only seen them protect Shiki and OMGUS me

I think it's Vanderscamp. VOTE: Vanderscamp Good luck.

edit-Ha

Spoiler: Buddying?

yea. u say u suspect cape, but all your questions are for jacket.

if i HAD to make some reads right now

townies are jacket, shiki, bugspray, dorsey, in no specific order

I don't have strong opinions on Dorsey but

Have there been any games where there were no scum slots assigned? Like everyone was town and didn't know it? I want to read that one.

Sorry, that really didn't progress this thread at all.

Both of these strike me as towny with one another, moreso on the ladder quote here

Bug...Doesn't really say much. I know you said people were calling them scum, but I didn't see much reaction.
Cape...I don't see a really telling connection with anyone. (They had unvoted Jacket but Micc just didn't catch it - had to get that off my chest)
Wheels/Datisi...Please don't make another cult. LGW struck me as a background character and I don't know what made them leave.
Looker...Minimal iso with vote shifts. I'm biased towards this behavior because I do the same thing unless I'm replacing in and there's already content.
Shiki...I don't agree with everything the slot says, but I'm okay with believing for now that a slot wouldn't be so effusive if they didn't believe what they were saying.
Umlaut...Thought the E-1 was weird. Also leery of the pass given to Datisi for perceived contradiction or "madness", but I think that's just because I'm leery of Datisi.

i forgot the context that Dorsey was voting shiki there. Makes sense and I think it's a decent/valid thought

I guess thinking about it more, what catches me off gaurd is Dorsey then proceeding to not advance the threadstate until 72, like they literally posted nothing until that time which I would expect if Dorsey was concerned about advancing the threadstate, they would make more of an active effort like, right after they said 29. The thread was already

being

advanced by the time Dorsey chimed in with a game progressing post.

VOTE: dorsey

why

VOTE: dorsey

sure, we have less than two hours anyway, probably not getting anything up in time

I don't see scum!Datisi hammering down like this

[Looker]

How is 210

buddying

?

At least if you are actually gonna commit to saying that is buddying, call 212 buddying too

I didn't say 210 was buddying, but I put it in that section of notes because "I guess thinking about it more" seemed off to me.

hmm,

if you joined to play with dorsey, is there a reason you didn't seem invested in determining dorsey's alignment yesterday? (other than limited time)

Because I wasn't going to vote her. I killed her as scum last game so I figured this one would be better, but I mean the writing was kind of on the wall.

[Looker]

Only players I haven't seen really criticized are bugspray and Cape (other than Looker's hate crime)

weren't people calling bugs scummy? and do you have an opinion on those players? (or like, anyone not named shiki)

I do, but I doubt it'll be helpful or I would have given it already. But here goes...
Vander...I've only seen them protect Shiki and OMGUS me
Jacket...I like them but didn't want to broadcast it because they said they townread me. I was trying to emulate their reaction testing with Shiki but I don't have as many posts.
Bug...Doesn't really say much. I know you said people were calling them scum, but I didn't see much reaction.
Cape...I don't see a really telling connection with anyone. (They had unvoted Jacket but Micc just didn't catch it - had to get that off my chest)
Wheels/Datisi...Please don't make another cult. LGW struck me as a background character and I don't know what made them leave.
Looker...Minimal iso with vote shifts. I'm biased towards this behavior because I do the same thing unless I'm replacing in and there's already content.
Shiki...I don't agree with everything the slot says, but I'm okay with believing for now that a slot wouldn't be so effusive if they didn't believe what they were saying.
Umlaut...Thought the E-1 was weird. Also leery of the pass given to Datisi for perceived contradiction or "madness", but I think that's just because I'm leery of Datisi.

Also if I kind of squint at this and let my confirmation bias run rampant then the 'read' on Looker is pretty weird and seems like excuse to townread them without claiming there's anything particularly towny about them (Dorsey is 'biased toward' players who... don't post much?)

How is that different from Cape90 or Datisi

Between looker and Datisi, I think it's a pretty easy decision to vote Datisi. Datisi has been townier, and I think looker's analysis post of likely partners and likely buddying was probably bad enough to lose its "analysis" title, it was just a sequence of posts without any kind of clear thought progression behind it.

It's almost as if they were notes and not analysis.

[Looker]

Give me a second before flip, I wanna cast a vote first

[Looker]

I don't think it's Vanderscamp - I feel that would've been a pretty strong bus to votepark Dorsey all D1

[Looker]

What do you mean by this?

I don't think the writing was clearly on the wall at all.

Spoiler: It was for me

Thank you for the birthday wishes! I think Galron might be scum; he doesnt seem excited enough. I've been stalking him for three games straight and now that we're finally on the same player list, he's silent. Disclaimer: I have not yet looked at other games of Galron's to see if he's an emotive poster. I also do not claim that Galron is fond of me. I am simply conceited.

I felt the same way about Dorsey. She wasn't even speaking to me, even though she was the first person I referenced. And then the ridiculousness happened and I dropped off to avoid further outrage. She also spoke more the last time we played together.

[Looker]

How much more time do you need
I was waiting for final responses before I dropped anchor, but I'm kinda set already

[Looker]

VOTE: Cape90 I disagree with y'all

[Looker]

No it's Saturday morning

[Looker]

I'm not disagreeing on me. I'm disagreeing on Cape being townier than Datisi.

[Looker]

You've never met me