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really?In post 19, Aristeia wrote:I am willing to yeet Ausuka tbh
isn't there a difference between "not outside of the realm of possibility" and "would yeet"?In post 22, Aristeia wrote:I don't think it's outside the realm of possibility that Ausuka decided to fake claim miller as a mafia
???In post 34, Ph0enix wrote:I believe it's too early in the day to be talking about "yeeting" anybody
i am interested in the whyIn post 43, scamper wrote:i kinda think phoenix is townie
being at work and sneaking posts while my manager isn't looking has that effectIn post 48, Xayah wrote:I'm not really sure I get why you're asking so many questions without putting in much work yourself.
funny you should say that - viewtopic.php?f=84&t=79835In post 51, Aristeia wrote:I don't recall ever seeing a miller be in a micro, but if you have experience with a micro with a miller, please link me.
yet you're not flirting with me at allIn post 52, Aristeia wrote:I would like this day to last a long time so I can flirt with Dats more.
this first sentence doesn't really follow into the second i thinkIn post 67, Ph0enix wrote:I don't think it's a good towntell, and in case it's not, your TR-ing Meg may just be an early attempt at pocketing as far as I'm concerned.In post 66, Ausuka wrote:Do you think questioning me about whether mindmelding is a good towntell is going to help solve my alignment?
mmm i really hate this. i feel like lolhammers aren't really uncommon, and lolyeeting a townie on day 1, 3 pages in, would be Not Really Good. don hasn't expressed actually being suspicious of me, so i'm assuming this is supposed to be a "for the pressure" vote, but like. what does he think it's gonna achieve in terms of my posting if i'm at y-2 or y-1?In post 73, Donempire wrote:I think the best way to move forward is to L-1 datisi. Days move faster with the threat of a lolhammer on the horizon, and if it does come the second day also moves fast. So i invite the miller to cast their vote, or anyone who wants to be the best player in this here lobby
i dunnoIn post 83, Ausuka wrote:I don't think she knew she was talking bullshit with the claim in 45, even if she's scum. I think her making that mistake makes it more likely she's scum because it indicates she isn't really trying to read my posts and sort me.In post 78, Datisi wrote:i think xayah is town because i struggle seeing scum have the 45 into 48 progression that she did. like, if she was gonna try to claim ausuka is scummy for making 3 posts about miller being the worst role in the world, which is false, i feel like she doesn't then immediately back down from it once she's questioned on it. if she's scum, she knew she was talking bullshit with the claim in 45; and if she knew that, i don't think she backs down from it at first sign of struggle.
she's one of the people i do not townread at allIn post 98, Ph0enix wrote:What's Coral doing in there?In post 89, Datisi wrote:phoenix kinda feels like he's trying to be ~logically correct and consistent~ without having the
my way too early solve is 2 in {phoenix, done, coral}
what's tmi about itIn post 100, Xayah wrote:I think it felt like a TMI sort of angle.
i know this to be false as i modded a game you were town in that had a lolhammer and that you lostIn post 110, Donempire wrote:I also know that i won all the games i played that had a lolhammer.
becuz you townread birbIn post 119, scamper wrote:i don't know why you asked me this tbh
what changed your mind from your vote up until now?In post 123, Coral wrote:I also changed my mind and decided Ari is town!
what do you think you will accomplish in this game by being put at y-1 that you cannot do while at y-2?In post 139, Donempire wrote:Putting me on L-1 isnt cruel, it is what i want.
i feel like this goes back and forth on whether my early questions are townie or not, in a way that is meant to seem smart and nuanced but is actually not saying much at all.In post 157, Ph0enix wrote:Datisi - trying to generate discussion in his first few posts. I understand the point Xayah made in one of her posts that the questions seem "low-effort" in a sense, but I generally think Town is more likely to want to ask questions of any kind than sit back and watch. I like the point he made about Xayah having backed down too easily once she was questioned on it. It's these points that I think are more likely to come from Town than from scum, not the questions he was asking at the beginning, though I think it's normal to start with basic questions at the beginning of the game before you have enough information to make up your mind and take a stance.
i don't think this is exactly valid - there is a good subset of players, myself included, that hate when a lot of the game isn't voting and the day stagnates, because that usually lets scum get away with doing nothing. so i think there is also a decent subset of players that would've agreed to don's idea of putting people at y-1 early for the content or pressure or whatever. and the possibility of getting a yeet this early would've been great for scum, which is why i see it as a possible scum strategy.In post 157, Ph0enix wrote:I kinda see Don's point but I think suggesting such a move is too obvious to do as scum, if that makes sense? Like, putting so much pressure on yourself by suggesting such a thing is a suboptimal move from a scum POV, IMO.
i feel like coral very much did take a stance and called done scummy? she just didn't vote?In post 157, Ph0enix wrote:I see her point for not wanting to put Don at E-1 but I do think it's also an easy excuse for not wanting to take a stance, as Don implied.
expressing scumreads on people without immediately pushing them is a thing? xayah should probably elaborate first if she wants, but i feel like i see reason behind her actions you talk about hereIn post 157, Ph0enix wrote:Though as I mentioned in a previous post, that begs the question if it wasn't meant to be a push, why bother in the first place?
i don't think you should be thinkign the same way as meIn post 170, scamper wrote:well i think the reasons you have for townreading both of them feel a bit contrived and i'm not sure why i should be thinking the same way as you. idk, i'm suspicious of like half the game right now
idk. it felt like using a lot of words that didn't need to be used. maybe there's no way you can make a huge wallpost on page 7. that's why i was gonna go take a look at his other games. maybe i still will. maybe i'll just read galron.In post 172, scamper wrote:admittedly the readlist from phoenix doesn't do a whole lot for me, but i'm not sure what to be looking for in a list on page 7...In post 162, Datisi wrote:i should probably check some pho towngames to see if he's like this as town, usually. about to go to work, so i can't do that at the time, but. at some point soon(tm).
i think scum is more likely to come up with a more "visible" trajectory than go "ye it was gut lol". i'm not saying it's a great vote-switch, i'm just saying i can easily see it coming from a townie who first felt one way, then felt another way about ari.In post 180, Donempire wrote:i dont understand what part of this vote switch is fine?
i feel like both coral and xayah did something surface-level scummy that could be pushable, because it's not very likely someone would get flak for pushing them after they did scummy-looking thingsIn post 209, scamper wrote:no i'm pretty sure i understand, it's just that i don't agree with your thinking, i don't see coral/xayah as "easy" misyeets, you seem to think they are clearly town and me not seeing this reflects poorly on my alignment, i don't agree with your reasons for townreading them and the logic for doing so seems kind of reach-yIn post 207, Datisi wrote:i feel like you're still not understanding what i'm saying in that post or the posts leading up to it, but i am about to pass out so. tomorrow i will rephrase if needed ig
and all that being said i don't really know what it means for your alignment this game
does this mean you townread everyone else, or...?In post 224, Xayah wrote:That leaves Ari/Scamper
i dunno. i wanted to let you do your thing for a bit first to see what you do. so i just kinda didn't :<In post 239, Aristeia wrote:I'm wondering why you're not as flirty as usual
it's not that i'm afraid of distracting you, it's that my mindset was "i will focus on everyone except ari for now" and then i didn't interact with you much >.>In post 247, Aristeia wrote:I don't think you flirting with me really affects my process?
is this supposed to be scummy? or like do you think it isIn post 246, Xayah wrote:Datisi's posting have very basic level solving with fluff inside it to add onto the posts given.
yesIn post 263, Ausuka wrote:Dats i don't really understand your read progression on coral?
it's not something i generally do. after seeing scamper disagree with me, i thought it might be A Good Thing to keep in mind. i was not pre-planning on it, no.In post 279, Coral wrote:Why are you in particular looking for people who are making easy pushes? Is that something you always do, or is it specific to this game? The way you called it out made it sound like it's something you came into this game with the idea of doing.
can you talk about this if you haven't already?In post 238, Xayah wrote:My only real strong TR atm is the replacement
also to circle back to thisIn post 267, Ausuka wrote:thank you datisiIn post 266, Datisi wrote:yesIn post 263, Ausuka wrote:Dats i don't really understand your read progression on coral?
overall thread presence feels like pushing the game forwardIn post 301, Ausuka wrote:why are you townreading me
@ausuka, thisIn post 183, Coral wrote:Okay. What about 123? What do you think is my mindset or motivation behind making that post as scum? Can you explain more where the feeling of "off" is coming from, and why that's more likely to come from scum?In post 169, scamper wrote:ok....i'm not really sure this changes my view, thoughIn post 144, Coral wrote:That's because it kind of was! I felt a town vibe first and then tried to figure out where it was coming from after. I'm not terribly convinced it was a great reason, but it was fun to explore!
As town my mind is often a jumble of mixed-up thoughts and feelings. As scum I take care to express my thoughts clearly, which is easy to do because they're fake, and have clean and planned-out progressions. I wouldn't ever have reason to express a thought that I wasn't already confident I could state in a cohesive way and back up later, unless maybe put on the spot by pressure and I need to come up with a read on a partner. I think that's one of my weaknesses.
i can't wait to roll scum against you so that i can scumread you and you to townread me forever for itIn post 314, Aristeia wrote:I worry about you townreading me for bad reasons -> scum!you :[In post 300, Datisi wrote:ari is also lowkey townie. the agruing with xayah doesn't do much for her position in game which like. idk why scum!her would care kinda. yes this is directly going against what i said earlier about their convo, fight me
you know i tend to err on the side of miller claims being +town???In post 407, Aristeia wrote:I think your reaction to the miller claim didn't feel uninformed and you're the person most likely to be ok with Ausuka fake-claiming miller right away.In post 405, Datisi wrote:ari, why am i scum other than being relaxed w ausuka?