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Post Post #725 (ISO) » Sun Jul 31, 2022 12:41 pm

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In post 723, scamper wrote:
In post 720, MegAzumarill wrote:You are actively harming the flow of information through the town while being incredibly (and intentionally) vague about your own opinions.

You explicitly ignore things that have been said in objective ways. As if there is room for interpretation. There isn't a lot of the time. You put words in others' mouths.

That is clearly observable from anyone that is not you.

And you question why I scumread you.
i have literally not been vague or harming the flow of information at all, if anyone is doing that here it is you
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anyway im getting off for a while
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Post Post #726 (ISO) » Sun Jul 31, 2022 12:42 pm

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if you think it's "clearly ovservable", let's see, because you're being incredibly disingenuous right now
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Post Post #727 (ISO) » Sun Jul 31, 2022 12:43 pm

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every time i ask you what information i'm supposed to give you dodge the question and accuse me of misrepresenting things

like, the only way to interpret this is you're intentionally being confusing and dense right now because there's no other way. i aim for clarity in communication and all your efforts have been intentionally obfuscatory
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Post Post #728 (ISO) » Sun Jul 31, 2022 12:59 pm

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ayo I’m rlly here because Xayah’s sig mentions she is MariaR and I remember her kinda fondly
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Post Post #729 (ISO) » Sun Jul 31, 2022 1:01 pm

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In post 697, Ausuka wrote:Gamma I think it would be really funny if you posted that image of the pizza delivery man walking into a room on fire
Pretty sure I know what you mean and that character isn’t a pizza delivery man
ftr that gif is from the show Community
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Post Post #730 (ISO) » Sun Jul 31, 2022 1:02 pm

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hi gamma!

ftr i am treating your slot as more or less confirmed town
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Post Post #731 (ISO) » Sun Jul 31, 2022 1:09 pm

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In post 621, Donempire wrote: I will not lynch aris replacement today, and my read wont carry over to her replacement. I wanted to point this out for anyone tring her for this reason.
Ayo the L-word is not supposed to be used in games anymore
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Post Post #732 (ISO) » Sun Jul 31, 2022 1:25 pm

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UNVOTE:

that vote was a pretty emotional one and i'm not really sure meg is the most likely player to flip scum even if i find them be wildly anti-town
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Post Post #733 (ISO) » Sun Jul 31, 2022 1:32 pm

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In post 726, scamper wrote:if you think it's "clearly ovservable", let's see, because you're being incredibly disingenuous right now
You are making the argument that I can't read the game.

Here is what an interacrion with you looks like.

Post X *exists

Post X says X. It gives (reasons)

Scamper " Post X means Y, and Y is wrong because (reasons)"

Me: Scamper, you got Post X wrong. (This is called A misrep or a strawman depending on context)

Scamper: "no i didn't"

Can you understand that this is incredibly frustrating.

You get people's stances objectively wrong. Not even analytically wrong. Often part of X states it as explicitly not Y. It's objectively not the same argument.

You take opinions noone has and throw them in the gutter and act like these were always the opinions of players. You put words in their mouth. Whether this is intentional to discredit them or an err on your part is irrelevant.


Before you reply, take some time and think about these 3 things.

1. Do you think that continuing this conversation will amount to information that will help you win the game?
2. Is it possible I may have made an error or too promptly attacked an idea without proper consideration?
3. Are you having a good time continuing this argument, or would you prefer to put your game efforts elsewhere?

I see the trend of this and I want to kill it before it grows toxic. FMPOV you are objectively wrong on your perspective of me and yourself. You won't be able to convince me otherwise. I don't think I can get my point through to you if you are town.

I'd prefer you give at least 20 minutes of consideration before deciding if you want to continue this. I don't. I don't think anyone else wants it to continue either.
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Post Post #734 (ISO) » Sun Jul 31, 2022 1:32 pm

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Hi gamma!
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Post Post #735 (ISO) » Sun Jul 31, 2022 1:54 pm

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In post 733, MegAzumarill wrote:1. Do you think that continuing this conversation will amount to information that will help you win the game?
i think the basis of the game is in communication and shutting it down out of annoyance/frustration is bad play. the entire reason i havve been carrying on with this is because i disagree with your view of the game and also because i need to sort you in order to determine whether you're scum or just frustratingly egotistical with bad reads and bad logic.
2. Is it possible I may have made an error or too promptly attacked an idea without proper consideration?
you have done this constantly, this is what i keep complaining about
3. Are you having a good time continuing this argument, or would you prefer to put your game efforts elsewhere?
i put my efforts where i feel they're necessary and right now you're here and i'm going to keep arguing against the stuff you say because it's just absolutely untrue

i don't like being tunneled, no, but i don't quit doing things in a game because they are difficult or w/e


this is why you give the feeling of evasiveness, you get confronted and whine about how it isn't fun and you're not being treated right and won't accomplish anything rather than actually having a conversation. you did it with ari, you're doing it with me. you can't selectively choose to engage because actually defending your own logic is "unfun".
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Post Post #736 (ISO) » Sun Jul 31, 2022 1:57 pm

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like...you are literally lying about my play, on repeated occasions, and using that to argue that i am scum. i'm not going to ignore that because it's "unfun".
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Post Post #737 (ISO) » Sun Jul 31, 2022 1:58 pm

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if you have a problem with conflict i'm really not sure this is the game for you
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Post Post #738 (ISO) » Sun Jul 31, 2022 2:07 pm

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You do realize that most of what you accuse me of is literally describing you fmpov, don't you?

You've made that clear to me and my stance will stay unwavering as yours tends to be.

This only ends in an experience neither of us enjoys.

If you think continuing this argument is more important than your own enjoyment of the game, then continue. I don't agree, so I won't be.

Harp on me all you want about it. It's happened twice this game and I will stick to my guns on my stance. I don't care. If I was anyone else this would've gone down the toxicity spiral by now. That is not only unfun, but that kind of behavior is explicitly against the rules. I'm not going to intentionally take myself down a path that leads to me or another breaking the rules. Call it what you want.
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Post Post #739 (ISO) » Sun Jul 31, 2022 2:09 pm

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i went to read white flag holder thinking this is probably not scum~meg and now i'm less sure because they're doing the same disingenuous tunnely bad pushes there
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Post Post #740 (ISO) » Sun Jul 31, 2022 2:10 pm

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In post 738, MegAzumarill wrote:You do realize that most of what you accuse me of is literally describing you fmpov, don't you?

You've made that clear to me and my stance will stay unwavering as yours tends to be.

This only ends in an experience neither of us enjoys.

If you think continuing this argument is more important than your own enjoyment of the game, then continue. I don't agree, so I won't be.

Harp on me all you want about it. It's happened twice this game and I will stick to my guns on my stance. I don't care. If I was anyone else this would've gone down the toxicity spiral by now. That is not only unfun, but that kind of behavior is explicitly against the rules. I'm not going to intentionally take myself down a path that leads to me or another breaking the rules. Call it what you want.
invoking the rules to back out of an argument because you don't want to defend yourself is actually super gross and angleshooty
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Post Post #741 (ISO) » Sun Jul 31, 2022 2:11 pm

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i keep saying you're being disingenuous and you keep bring up out of game factors to avoid clarification - this isn't fun, this won't accomplish anything, i don't want to break the rules

it's really disgusting, honestly
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Post Post #742 (ISO) » Sun Jul 31, 2022 2:26 pm

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Do you know how many layers of frustration and anger I painstakingly wipe out of each and every one of the posts I have to make regarding you?

I am actively trying to curb the toxicity. You simply aren't.

What you say your actions are =/= your actions

Intentional or not you are being toxic and you have resorted to personal attacks against me on numerous occasions.

Stop.
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Post Post #743 (ISO) » Sun Jul 31, 2022 2:33 pm

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if you think i'm breaking the rules then take it to a mod, using it against me in-game is OGI and really gross and unethical
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Post Post #744 (ISO) » Sun Jul 31, 2022 2:42 pm

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but hey, abnger and frustration doesn't mean you're town, right? feels like you're trying really hard to make a show of how upset you are in the hopes it'll get u townread
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Post Post #745 (ISO) » Sun Jul 31, 2022 3:10 pm

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(for the record, above is not serious. i don't think Meg is significantly likely to flip scum, i just felt like making a point)

i wanna vote Galron at this point but don't wanna E-1
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Post Post #746 (ISO) » Sun Jul 31, 2022 3:14 pm

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Spoiler: For Scamper
I am going to ignore you for the time being. :D :D :D Perhaps we can continue this delightful discussion later! :good: :good: :good:


VOTE: Galron
At this point I'm happy to end the day.
Kind of want to hear Gamma's catchup.
I believe this is E-1.
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Post Post #747 (ISO) » Sun Jul 31, 2022 3:15 pm

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Spoiler:
anytime you want to sit down and actually be rational, i'm here
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Post Post #748 (ISO) » Sun Jul 31, 2022 4:43 pm

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I'm not going to closely read the last 13 pages unless there's somehting I need to see. I did a skim through and I'm okay with limming donempire at this point. His whole e-1 thing doesn't read as genuine and his reliance on mech is easy to fake. I don't know who his buddies are but more votes on done please.
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Post Post #749 (ISO) » Sun Jul 31, 2022 4:44 pm

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In post 746, MegAzumarill wrote:
Spoiler: For Scamper
I am going to ignore you for the time being. :D :D :D Perhaps we can continue this delightful discussion later! :good: :good: :good:


VOTE: Galron
At this point I'm happy to end the day.
Kind of want to hear Gamma's catchup.
I believe this is E-1.
What's this about?

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