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Post #8 (isolation #3) » Thu Oct 26, 2023 7:06 pm
Postby usesPython »
In post 7, OutWorldER wrote:
Wartortle strikes me immediately as somebody's alt whose trolling but it might legitimately be someone coming from a different place.
Wartortle feels like someone coming from chat mafia
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Post #29 (isolation #8) » Sun Oct 29, 2023 2:24 pm
Postby usesPython »
In post 26, OutWorldER wrote:
Also talk to me if you think what I'm doing is a bad idea or if I'm coming off too bossy or anything like that. I want us to work as a team but I might be getting too over-zealous.
If you think it'll work then go for it, right now none of us are really in any danger so I don't think we need to be hardcore cooperating rn
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Post #30 (isolation #9) » Sun Oct 29, 2023 2:37 pm
Postby usesPython »
In post 27, OutWorldER wrote:
Setup spec: We've got an RB and I'm figuring that since this is a simple game we probably have some form of Protect/Investigate combo that we're supposed to break up with an RB. If it were a straight Cop/Doc I'd think we'd have a strongman or something similar so perhaps a Tracker?
I'm still somewhat sure about my THS read as a PR but I might need to reread just to make sure I'm not biasing myself. Still, I think his reactions to being pushed to E-2 so early and his expressed feelings of helplessness (stating he has "no confidence in this town") make me think that he could be the Town Protective.
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Post #31 (isolation #10) » Sun Oct 29, 2023 2:39 pm
Postby usesPython »
In post 289, AnimatedWiz wrote:
Also, I earlier (136) said that I generally am willing to trust Python—it’s hard to back out of the pocket theory if I’ve previously said that, at least not without a Python scumflip or something.
Yeah that'd be pretty crazy
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Post #35 (isolation #11) » Sun Oct 29, 2023 3:10 pm
Postby usesPython »
In post 33, OutWorldER wrote:
Trying to send anonymous psychic signals to DE telling him to death-tunnel Wiz.
@Python btw do you have any PR reads at the moment? Thank you for providing those example games btw. I think Doctor/Tracker is what we can expect, although I am fearful of the possibility it might be a Watcher instead.
We don't really have any PR reads and in general in closed simple games like this I think it's better to just use the nightkill for thread control over trying to hit silent PR's
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Post #38 (isolation #12) » Sun Oct 29, 2023 3:13 pm
Postby usesPython »
In post 37, OutWorldER wrote:
I agree with using the NK for thread control which is why I'm looking at Wartortle/DE NK. I mostly ask because we have an RB and I think shooting for thread control might get difficult if Doc gets in the way.
The trick is to be so obvtown you get all the PRs saving you
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Post #54 (isolation #14) » Wed Nov 01, 2023 12:16 pm
Postby usesPython »
In post 53, OutWorldER wrote:
I do not like the way people are looking at Python right now and I feel like I should probably try and push something and wrest control of the thread but also the post I made was true I have like zero motivation to play after all the nonsense that happened at work yesterday.
Don't worry
fr tho we're normally like a cockroach when it comes to dayplay
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Post #61 (isolation #17) » Thu Nov 02, 2023 12:49 pm
Postby usesPython »
In post 60, OutWorldER wrote:
the big problem with killing Black is high chance of Doc/BG being here and protecting her. I still think THS is likely to be a PR of some kind but killing Black tonight would heavily rely on us getting a good RB here unless the Doc just screws up.
Town needs two protects to actually change the amount of days the game goes on for. I think it's better to just take the shot and go for thread control, especially since we can also fakeclaim something like 1-shot Bulletproof or Doctor or Jailkeeper or Roleblocker
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I don't consider this trolling. I just don't really like D1, and i don't believe in D1 claims. That's simple.
If i did townread you i would't hammer you, but you didn't really convince me. Or i am bad at the game. Most likely i am bad, but hey, you also voted here, aye?
In post 20, Wartortle wrote:
god i don't like day start. it's just useless crap, like bro i want a detective to get a guilty on a busboy, i want a freeloader to cc cop and get condemned, i want a marksman to shoot a claimed seer. i don't want none of this "vanilla townie" crap
based on this i dont think i´d trust tortle´s claim anyway
Spoiler: Roden
In post 775, Roden wrote:
Why are y'all freaking out about the hammer when everyone kept saying we need to vote someone out and end the day? Like so many people were convinced Wartortle was scum no matter what was said leading up to the elim. Would a Vanilla Cop claim really be enough to change anyone's mind?
Spoiler: TheHoldSteady
In post 776, TheHoldSteady wrote:
Well, let's see if you all were right or not to completely ignore my feedback
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Post #93 (isolation #22) » Sun Nov 05, 2023 10:37 am
Postby usesPython »
In post 84, Thestatusquo wrote:
Enchant response is weird because his reputation is a guy who barely tries and auto hammers anyone who hits l-1.
I don't know why he's writing a whole paragraph to justify that. He has a reputation of being pretty bad so if we kill enchant it might be the first time in his entire history on this site he's been nk'd n1. And there's a reason for that. Town almost always has to waste a lim on him.
So I'm much more interested in doing your plan but with the people reversed.
THS kill is probably the correct play but a n1 Enchant nk sounds funny as hell
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Post #113 (isolation #31) » Tue Nov 07, 2023 6:20 pm
Postby usesPython »
I just realized our ISO lets us slide into an Informed Townie (OWER is town) fakeclaim if necessary, gonna keep that card in the back pocket for massclaim
Actually do people still use Informed in the normal queue?
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Post #117 (isolation #34) » Tue Nov 07, 2023 7:08 pm
Postby usesPython »
Game went into signups on Oct 6th and filled on the 25th, Normal queue got reworked on Oct 31st. I think the setup uses the old definition of "Simple" where it's basically just an arbitrary gut feel of how complex the setup is
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Moderators may declare a complexity rating of either Simple or Complex for their Normal Game when the game goes into signups.
Complexity is defined by the following collection of characteristics. The more of them that a game has, the more likely it should be labeled complex rather than simple. The reverse is true as well: the fewer of these are applicable, the more likely the setup ought to be labeled as simple rather than complex.
Having several roles with modifiers, especially modifiers that affect targeting (e.g. simple, loyal) or fundamentally affect the way one would play the role (e.g. announcing, weak)
Having some roles with several modifiers
Having a large proportion of non-vanilla roles in general
Having anything that could be construed as a red herring (e.g., two of the same town role, a backup or enabler without a main role, a neighborhood with only mafia, a miller without a cop, etc.)
Having complicated interactions between roles (e.g. multiple blocking roles that may affect each other, generally anything that might make a reviewer need to think twice about how it would work)
Having many roles that aren't seen as frequently in normal games
Anything else that would potentially defy the expectations of a player who's played normal games before
Reviewers may choose to suggest or request a complexity rating, but complexity ratings are never mandatory.
If a moderator wants to use a complexity label, a reviewer needs to approve it.
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Post #124 (isolation #36) » Wed Nov 08, 2023 1:24 pm
Postby usesPython »
In post 121, OutWorldER wrote:
I want to make a post but drawing attention to myself 3 hours before I need to go to work and then being unable to defend myself for the next like, 9 hours or so feels really bad.
It's not that bad, dropping the first post of the day makes it memorable so even though people have time to complain it also means your rebuttal is the first thing they'll see when they come back and that'll stick with them.
It's the same tactic that got us townread d1 here until people read our ISO
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Post #148 (isolation #48) » Sat Nov 11, 2023 1:30 am
Postby usesPython »
I'm inclined to believe Blacks claim btw, I don't think she knows enough about setup spec to know she needs to claim Macho here if she was fake claiming
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Post #150 (isolation #49) » Sun Nov 12, 2023 3:32 am
Postby usesPython »
In post 149, OutWorldER wrote:
I'm headed to work, if I get elimmed before I return I think we just shoot Black tonight. No reason to let Watcher get a potential guilty even if the Macho part of the claim is fake.
Welcome to day 3 buddy
I think we always shoot Black here, her reads are pretty on point and there's a ready made excuse for the nightkill in that she claimed Macho Watcher
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Post #151 (isolation #50) » Sun Nov 12, 2023 3:45 am
Postby usesPython »
There's theoretically the option to leave Black alive and just roleblock her but if anyone's good at setup spec they realize that Mafia Juggernaut + Mafia Roleblocker game is kinda stupid as hell
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Jailkeeper - Would be very unusual to have a Macho Watcher + Jailkeeper since the Macho is there to prevent a TP chain while Jailkeeper already inherently prevents one
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Post #162 (isolation #53) » Sun Nov 12, 2023 6:36 am
Postby usesPython »
In post 160, Thestatusquo wrote:
are JOATs normal these days? Could just be a joat of some kind, but again we have an ungated RB so that implies something worth roleblocking.
Would be pretty weird to have a JOAT be the only protective ability town has in a Macho game, JOAT + Gated Doctor could be a thing though
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Possibly, but I think we can unironically go for a perfect game here as long as people forget about OWER. I don't think I go down here without taking multiple protectives with me through dayplay and we can play like the game is vanilla if a BlackStar lim happens by just roleblocking the JK at that point
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That can come later btw, I don't think anyone suspects us right now so if you as town would normally be able to get away with focusing on other things you should probably take advantage of that to let us push some lims through before people turn on us, especially if you can bring people who also ignored us into ELO
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Post #204 (isolation #59) » Tue Nov 14, 2023 7:48 pm
Postby usesPython »
In post 203, OutWorldER wrote:
did I TMI with that last post, I feel like I might've
trying to get Roden to push up BlackStar but might've gotten too zealous
Your setup spec is wrong here but you're still fine, the reason scum don't have a Ninja here because they don't need one. Mafias PR's in this setup are gonna be based on countering the shitload of protective roles and based on THS getting a no result without anyone claiming a roleblock it means that THS is either scum or that scum have a roleblocker
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