Gistou: Green Paradise

Luna Fox · Post Post #2 (isolation #0) » Mon Jul 11, 2016 3:42 am

Hello!

Luna Fox · Post Post #3 (isolation #1) » Mon Jul 11, 2016 4:32 am

Oh btw im a faction cop, because i forgot to mention that.
Also are we scum or something?

Luna Fox · Post Post #4 (isolation #2) » Mon Jul 11, 2016 4:54 am

I have a feeling Cakez and Ceph have access to some sort of PT.

Luna Fox · Post Post #5 (isolation #3) » Mon Jul 11, 2016 5:06 am

If we're scum, do we know how the town faction is called?

Luna Fox · Post Post #9 (isolation #4) » Mon Jul 11, 2016 7:40 am

Now that i read this more correctly i just realized that im town, but that not everyone here might be town.
Ooops?

Luna Fox · Post Post #11 (isolation #5) » Mon Jul 11, 2016 7:42 am

My win condition is the one posted in 7.

Luna Fox · Post Post #12 (isolation #6) » Mon Jul 11, 2016 7:43 am

I just realized the thing about "not everyone might share the same win condition here".

Luna Fox · Post Post #13 (isolation #7) » Mon Jul 11, 2016 7:44 am

I mean that looks like the staple "You win when all threats to town are eliminated and there's at least 1 town member alive", there's no 50% of votes or anything, nor "elimnate X faction" either.

Luna Fox · Post Post #15 (isolation #8) » Mon Jul 11, 2016 7:46 am

We do, but this might as well be a shared neighborhood ability of some sort, that's not unheard of either.
Maybe im getting confused but i think this is more like a thing we as undead share, than actually being scum.

Luna Fox · Post Post #16 (isolation #9) » Mon Jul 11, 2016 7:47 am

I mean how else do you explain that we dont need 50% of the votes, but need to kill everyone that's not town (as i imagine is what means in that win condition)

Luna Fox · Post Post #18 (isolation #10) » Mon Jul 11, 2016 7:53 am

Well my role PM was pretty specific as well as this op that not everyone in here would share the same win con, i seem to have completely overlooked that and connected faction chat + night kill + culting with being scum, but apparently im not actually scum, nor is everyone in here, from your reaction, you're probably town as well and got confused by the same thing.

Luna Fox · Post Post #20 (isolation #11) » Mon Jul 11, 2016 7:58 am

im just going to assume this is a neighborhood that has a shared recruit and night kill. For the time being.

Luna Fox · Post Post #22 (isolation #12) » Mon Jul 11, 2016 8:00 am

No, because i think your confusion is town. This also means im going to have to read ppl in this PT XD

Luna Fox · Post Post #29 (isolation #13) » Mon Jul 11, 2016 8:18 am

i dont think faction = wincon tbh.
If it does then im going to assume all undead are town.

Luna Fox · Post Post #30 (isolation #14) » Mon Jul 11, 2016 8:19 am

Unless it's specific to undead slaves, being town helpers, so town, or something weird.
Well either way, weird mechanics and stuff, i like figuring stuff out.

Luna Fox · Post Post #33 (isolation #15) » Mon Jul 11, 2016 8:22 am

I'm just gonna consider it a shared neighborhood vig.
As I said before, it confused me at first and thought I was scum, but after reading the wincon it looks like town's default win condition on any mafia game.
If we're also eliminating the "Threats" to the humanity treaty and you're consider that we are "said threat" do you mean we have to kill ourselves? (Except we cant anyway)

Luna Fox · Post Post #35 (isolation #16) » Mon Jul 11, 2016 8:24 am

So from all this i know a few things
My win condition explictly states what is in 7.
So I assume i am town.
I assume this faction wins with town.
So I assume there will be 1 or more non town here trying to screw with all of us, im assuming at least 1 due to the way the OP is worded.

Luna Fox · Post Post #38 (isolation #17) » Mon Jul 11, 2016 8:29 am

In post 2, mastin2 wrote:This alliance was to be focused in the strongest remaining of the three factions, the eastern kingdom, but this triggered one final change: overnight, after the signing of the Humanity Treaty, an uprising of slaves rose up. This, because those slaves were secretly undead, hidden survivors of the experiments long-since discontinued, fearing for their lives thanks to their new bad publicity.

Luna Fox · Post Post #40 (isolation #18) » Mon Jul 11, 2016 8:31 am

But my wincon states the contrary.
Inb4 we're the odd ones out.

Luna Fox · Post Post #42 (isolation #19) » Mon Jul 11, 2016 8:33 am

I think trying to make sense of our wincon via flavor is not a good idea, when our wincon is clear as day in our role PMs.
I assume Humanity Treaty = something good
So removing threats = town.

Yeah i think Mastin needs to come and explain stuff.

Luna Fox · Post Post #45 (isolation #20) » Mon Jul 11, 2016 8:35 am

From what i read in the main thread BBMolla has the same win condition, so probably there's more ppl with our same wincon out there.

Luna Fox · Post Post #47 (isolation #21) » Mon Jul 11, 2016 8:37 am

So Masons that can Masonize someone and we could have a mole, and share a vig shot.
Sounds good to me!

Luna Fox · Post Post #49 (isolation #22) » Mon Jul 11, 2016 8:40 am

Which probably wont be me if we have a mole, specially after my claim

Luna Fox · Post Post #50 (isolation #23) » Mon Jul 11, 2016 8:45 am

Also apparently our nightkill is non consec. so... uhh yeah.

Luna Fox · Post Post #53 (isolation #24) » Mon Jul 11, 2016 8:58 am

In post 52, dramonic wrote:You're not missing much, but C+A is pretty much obvscum.

Can't disagree there, i read their posts and i don't see any townvibes.
I'm also having a hard time reading Titus.

Luna Fox · Post Post #65 (isolation #25) » Mon Jul 11, 2016 1:02 pm

Win conditions are intentionally vague huh, guess im left to my own interpretation.

Luna Fox · Post Post #74 (isolation #26) » Mon Jul 11, 2016 2:37 pm

So what i gather is that i need to solve the puzzle of figuring out my own alignment to begin with...
:<

Luna Fox · Post Post #75 (isolation #27) » Mon Jul 11, 2016 2:38 pm

I'm not good at figuring this kinda thing, but i think i still infer from my role PM that eliminating threats and not being part of 50% of living population doesnt necessarily imply scum, and so i want to believe we're all town. Minus the mole. I hope this isn't a problem, but even if i was scum, i play better with this mindset.

Luna Fox · Post Post #76 (isolation #28) » Mon Jul 11, 2016 2:46 pm

Also sorry if im making your life harder mastin ^^;;

Luna Fox · Post Post #78 (isolation #29) » Mon Jul 11, 2016 2:49 pm

Hey i think it'll be fun, and that's what matters eh?

Luna Fox · Post Post #81 (isolation #30) » Mon Jul 11, 2016 3:25 pm

Ok Nahdia's town.

Luna Fox · Post Post #84 (isolation #31) » Mon Jul 11, 2016 4:48 pm

we can just vig him tho, no?

Luna Fox · Post Post #100 (isolation #32) » Mon Jul 11, 2016 5:46 pm

So this is how im gonna approach this game as of rn.
Given my ability i may die, but if i dont, then i'll try to use it to find the mole inside here.
Until i find it im considering you all Masons and will treat you as such.

Luna Fox · Post Post #105 (isolation #33) » Mon Jul 11, 2016 6:28 pm

Well i know that wasnt directed at me but at Nahdia, but im wondering if you're interested in my answer to that wrt my own flavor, or would rather just wait and hear Nahdia's response first (only?)

Luna Fox · Post Post #106 (isolation #34) » Mon Jul 11, 2016 6:30 pm

Also i'd like if Klingon would take more in here, she staying silent is kinda making me paranoid >.<

Luna Fox · Post Post #107 (isolation #35) » Mon Jul 11, 2016 6:30 pm

*Talk not Take

Luna Fox · Post Post #110 (isolation #36) » Mon Jul 11, 2016 6:42 pm

Not me.

Luna Fox · Post Post #113 (isolation #37) » Mon Jul 11, 2016 6:51 pm

Oh ok.

Luna Fox · Post Post #117 (isolation #38) » Mon Jul 11, 2016 7:31 pm

In post 116, copper223 wrote:I also hail from the eastern kingdom, that might be relevant.

Likewise

Luna Fox · Post Post #120 (isolation #39) » Mon Jul 11, 2016 8:17 pm

I'm sorry! >.<
But well if a mole is here my role is already grounds for being NK'd.

Luna Fox · Post Post #131 (isolation #40) » Tue Jul 12, 2016 3:34 am

Dunno about Exp, he's going about his scumread on me much more differently than in the one game i had with him. My gut says that he has wanted to kill me because one of my first posts here mentioned that im a faction cop and the mole fed him that info.

Luna Fox · Post Post #132 (isolation #41) » Tue Jul 12, 2016 6:02 am

I'm somehow thinking i should just claim my ability in the main thread because le'ts be real, scum probably already knows it if they are in here (which i believe is pretty likely), and im thinking the fact that i can faction scan ppl is actually making me a bit lazy u.u

Luna Fox · Post Post #135 (isolation #42) » Tue Jul 12, 2016 6:06 am

In post 134, Nahdia wrote:You probably shouldn't have claimed in here, but there's still a decent chance the mole in here is a "traitor" type role to their main faction and isn't in a PT with them. In fact, I would say that's likely.

Sorry it's just me and my bad habit of acting on impulse before fully reading things.
Remember at first I thought we were scum and so i saw no harm in claiming.

Luna Fox · Post Post #137 (isolation #43) » Tue Jul 12, 2016 7:03 am

I'm going with this so far, because i'm not sure how people would react to my flip when i undoubtedly get NK'd.
There is something else i just read on the flavor that is really bothering me right now.

Luna Fox · Post Post #138 (isolation #44) » Tue Jul 12, 2016 7:05 am

From the main thread flavor i found this about the Wulden.

In post 2, mastin2 wrote:Dmitri Damanos, once a mere bandit who had fled from the eastern kingdom, had formed a cult revering the beasts as gods. This cult, the Wulden, had all willingly undergone the process of lycanthropy. Things only got worse. Already an even match for the hunters, Dmitri was able to uncover a dark secret from the eastern kingdom, utilizing a mad science to recreate a long-since forgotten process to turn anything considered living into an unstoppable undead killing machine...including lycans.

With this absolute power, the Wulden were able to seize control of a large section primarily of the western empire, spreading across the land like a plague, including the discovery of a secret library that Dmitri was able to uncover, one which the hunters had desperately tried and failed to defend against.

Does this mean Wulden are the cult and can convert even non humans?

Luna Fox · Post Post #157 (isolation #45) » Tue Jul 12, 2016 8:03 pm

I'm starting to think Storm might be our scum.
I was willing to defend them but ABR knows we arent human and therefore cant be culted, that post has been really bad.

Luna Fox · Post Post #159 (isolation #46) » Tue Jul 12, 2016 8:09 pm

Because he's using his paranoia of cult to deliberately stay off the thread, i have a hard time seeing how that's possible other than to avoid confrontations in the thread.

Luna Fox · Post Post #160 (isolation #47) » Tue Jul 12, 2016 8:09 pm

Oh wait, you're storm too, now im conflicted.

Luna Fox · Post Post #163 (isolation #48) » Tue Jul 12, 2016 8:16 pm

In all honesty im currently debating between you (storm) and klingy for scum if there's 1 (or both if there's 2)

Luna Fox · Post Post #165 (isolation #49) » Tue Jul 12, 2016 8:18 pm

In post 158, Nahdia wrote:2) We know the spy is Wulden, not human
3) We know our factional recruit can only target humans, but the actual "cult" faction might not work like that. It might have a far less limited recruit.

You know, i did point out that in the flavor the Wulden is portrayed as a cult that can actually recruit non humans. But apparently i was full of BS, and now you say this.

Luna Fox · Post Post #167 (isolation #50) » Tue Jul 12, 2016 8:21 pm

In post 138, Luna Fox wrote:From the main thread flavor i found this about the Wulden.
In post 2, mastin2 wrote:Dmitri Damanos, once a mere bandit who had fled from the eastern kingdom,
had formed a cult revering the beasts as gods. This cult, the Wulden
, had all willingly undergone the process of lycanthropy. Things only got worse. Already an even match for the hunters, Dmitri was able to uncover a dark secret from the eastern kingdom, utilizing a mad science to recreate a long-since forgotten process to turn anything considered living into an unstoppable undead killing machine...including lycans.

With this absolute power, the Wulden were able to seize control of a large section primarily of the western empire, spreading across the land like a plague, including the discovery of a secret library that Dmitri was able to uncover, one which the hunters had desperately tried and failed to defend against.
Does this mean Wulden are the cult and can convert even non humans?

Luna Fox · Post Post #170 (isolation #51) » Tue Jul 12, 2016 8:22 pm

Sure they can probably convert non humans, but they convert them into half undead, not sure if that'd work with actual undead.
I still dont understand the cult paranoia ABR portrayed.

Luna Fox · Post Post #172 (isolation #52) » Tue Jul 12, 2016 8:26 pm

It is a possibility, but i think the flavor info about the Wulden makes me think they're more likely cult =/

Luna Fox · Post Post #177 (isolation #53) » Tue Jul 12, 2016 9:22 pm

After reading that reads thing that you paraphrased from the Hydra PT, i kinda started feeling bad, EP really does think of me as a mason and i kinda want to believe you, but the ABR stuff just keeps making me think you're possibly scum and now im conflicted >.<

Luna Fox · Post Post #180 (isolation #54) » Tue Jul 12, 2016 9:30 pm

I swear to do if you're actually town im going to feel really bad for this.

Luna Fox · Post Post #182 (isolation #55) » Tue Jul 12, 2016 9:33 pm

In post 181, Nahdia wrote:you'll just hur t yourself.

It's already hurting ><;;

Luna Fox · Post Post #188 (isolation #56) » Wed Jul 13, 2016 3:19 am

uhh fuck.

I should have read THIS place first

Luna Fox · Post Post #189 (isolation #57) » Wed Jul 13, 2016 3:20 am

Goddamit at this point i should just die.
It's clear i dont do well with hidden information >.<

Luna Fox · Post Post #191 (isolation #58) » Wed Jul 13, 2016 3:29 am

I'm just really bad at anything that involves hidden information.
See me usually claiming early investigative roles in other games.
I was trying to not even reveal this neighborhood exists but Nahdia's post made it quite impossible.

Luna Fox · Post Post #195 (isolation #59) » Wed Jul 13, 2016 4:43 am

I think humans are more likely to make that mistake.
But what do i know.

Luna Fox · Post Post #196 (isolation #60) » Wed Jul 13, 2016 4:44 am

Also i really apologize, i just tend to get super excited when i've found scum ;_;

Luna Fox · Post Post #199 (isolation #61) » Wed Jul 13, 2016 6:27 am

I thought we were shooting molla first?
Also can you explain that bit about she being against our wincon? She looks to be towning me a lot, i'd think she'd be pushing me hard if she was against our wincon (inb4 she's buddying me)

Luna Fox · Post Post #206 (isolation #62) » Wed Jul 13, 2016 10:53 am

I kinda want to masonize bee just because they are a friend of mine.
But i still got no idea if they are human.

Luna Fox · Post Post #225 (isolation #63) » Wed Jul 13, 2016 6:10 pm

So since i got internetz back, there's a few things.
I never said i wanted to recruit beeboy N1, i've been pro-molla kill N1. It's just something i'd like to do just cause they are friends and stuff.
Seems like everyone went over Kingly softing non-human and didnt notice it.

Luna Fox · Post Post #277 (isolation #64) » Wed Jul 13, 2016 8:44 pm

My internet went back down again T.T

Also what's with the Ad Hom, Kling? I mean sure a lot of us may be rattled because of a possible spy, but the majority of us here are town, i dont see why you need to get mad, if you're town, show it with your posting and behaviour, not by linking scum games to show "how good of a scum player" you are.

Luna Fox · Post Post #292 (isolation #65) » Thu Jul 14, 2016 5:00 am

Anti!scum literally doesnt do anything, they either prod-dodge, get bused or replace out.
Im fairly confident this anti is town.

Luna Fox · Post Post #293 (isolation #66) » Thu Jul 14, 2016 5:00 am

In post 291, Nahdia wrote:Luna I'm not gonna lie it's like, super concerning that you're seem so eager to throw everyone in this PT under the bus in the main thread...

Well excuse me! im getting paranoid, it's getting hard to defend you guys with the things you pull in the main thread.

Luna Fox · Post Post #294 (isolation #67) » Thu Jul 14, 2016 5:01 am

Although granted im more concerned about Klingy's posting in this PT than in the main thread which i wouldnt mind killing her for ^_^;;
I think copper's town, but damn, i dont see any way to save him from what he's doing there with anti.

Luna Fox · Post Post #295 (isolation #68) » Thu Jul 14, 2016 5:03 am

copper could always acknowledge my post, backtrack, apologize or something and then we would all be happy ^_^

Luna Fox · Post Post #296 (isolation #69) » Thu Jul 14, 2016 5:22 am

Seriously can't people read to give me at least 1 night to either clear of comden one of you.
But noooo, everyone just seems to want copper dead.

Ugh, if copper's town and gets lynched today im going to be legit pissed and i dont get pissed easily.

Luna Fox · Post Post #298 (isolation #70) » Thu Jul 14, 2016 5:28 am

He already claimed being part of our faction.

Luna Fox · Post Post #299 (isolation #71) » Thu Jul 14, 2016 5:28 am

Or rather he claimed being part of this PT, which is the same thing.

Luna Fox · Post Post #301 (isolation #72) » Thu Jul 14, 2016 5:29 am

I am this close to just claiming faction cop in the main thread.

Luna Fox · Post Post #303 (isolation #73) » Thu Jul 14, 2016 5:31 am

Like if i dont ppl are just gonna lynch him, and if he's town, scum already know im town and a faction cop, and then there's probably only gonna be 1-2 of our faction among you, klingy and dram, and that's very concerning.

Luna Fox · Post Post #305 (isolation #74) » Thu Jul 14, 2016 5:34 am

I guess i'll wait, if copper gets many more votes ill claim.

Luna Fox · Post Post #309 (isolation #75) » Thu Jul 14, 2016 5:39 am

In post 307, Nahdia wrote:Seriously, talk this out with me. WHY do you want to claim that publicly!? What reason could you possibly have?

Because then people would give copper a night so i can scan him, and then everything would be fine.

I had actually been wanting to scan one of you/klingy however.

Luna Fox · Post Post #311 (isolation #76) » Thu Jul 14, 2016 5:42 am

Ok fine.

Luna Fox · Post Post #312 (isolation #77) » Thu Jul 14, 2016 5:47 am

So to take a break from all this tediousness that is this game so far, and that im enduring by the power of endless happyness.

There's something i noticed in the flavor, and it seems likely that these Wulden guys may also be planted in every faction that has a PT, thoughts?

Luna Fox · Post Post #314 (isolation #78) » Thu Jul 14, 2016 5:51 am

No it doesnt, but i mean, looking at it from a balance perspective.
It would be really detrimental if we're the only faction that has a spy UNLESS we actually dont have a spy and that's just the mod scaring us so we dont auto consider ourselves masons.
From a flavor perspective.
They can literally turn anyone into Wulden, but since they are half undead i doubt they can turn undead into half undead (how would that even happen), but this also gives credence to the fact that they could be into any faction they want.

Luna Fox · Post Post #316 (isolation #79) » Thu Jul 14, 2016 6:05 am

Because they can convert anything considered living even lycans into them.
Or so the flavor says

Luna Fox · Post Post #317 (isolation #80) » Thu Jul 14, 2016 6:08 am

Im considering 3 scenarios.
1)
5:5:1:Town
In this scenario we dont have actually a spy, nor does the other faction, but the message is a threat that we could be converted into that cult.
2)
4:4:4:Town
In this scenario there's 1 spy on each faction, and each faction has 4 members.
3)
4:4:4:4 Town or 3:3:3:3:Town
In this scenario each faction has 1-2 spies, but the spy here is from a different faction than the spy there.

I dont really consider any options that only hurts our faction via balance, unless the other faction doesnt even have factional chat or something.

Luna Fox · Post Post #320 (isolation #81) » Thu Jul 14, 2016 6:23 am

Isn't it 28 players?

Luna Fox · Post Post #321 (isolation #82) » Thu Jul 14, 2016 6:24 am

5:5:1 = 11 scum
4:4:4 = 12 scum
4:4:4:4 = 16 scum so that one's wrong
3:3:3:3: = 12 scum.

Luna Fox · Post Post #330 (isolation #83) » Thu Jul 14, 2016 12:53 pm

I don't trust her.

Luna Fox · Post Post #332 (isolation #84) » Thu Jul 14, 2016 12:57 pm

Yes LLD

Luna Fox · Post Post #333 (isolation #85) » Thu Jul 14, 2016 1:00 pm

It's like she has a pokerface.
She's capable of faking all sorts of emotions.

Luna Fox · Post Post #340 (isolation #86) » Thu Jul 14, 2016 3:05 pm

I have no idea how to read Bins.

Luna Fox · Post Post #352 (isolation #87) » Thu Jul 14, 2016 3:48 pm

I mentioned it, because Storm when c/p reads from notes called me "hey mason buddy" so i had to explain where that comes from.

Luna Fox · Post Post #358 (isolation #88) » Thu Jul 14, 2016 5:19 pm

Well obviously but not all of us are in the same faction, but i doubt there's more than 1 spy.
I'm still in the notion of not lynch any of us on D1, so any inspections among us can help us figure out who the spy is.

Luna Fox · Post Post #360 (isolation #89) » Thu Jul 14, 2016 5:23 pm

What

Also why are you so obsessed with insulting us.

Please be nice ^_^

Luna Fox · Post Post #361 (isolation #90) » Thu Jul 14, 2016 5:23 pm

And i dont understand what you mean by i have to lower the bar.

Luna Fox · Post Post #365 (isolation #91) » Thu Jul 14, 2016 5:27 pm

Yeah.
Because im supposed totally ignore a player giving a "Hey mason buddy" read on me, and completely pretend that we're not in a hood.

Luna Fox · Post Post #371 (isolation #92) » Thu Jul 14, 2016 5:49 pm

But we win with town no?

Luna Fox · Post Post #376 (isolation #93) » Thu Jul 14, 2016 6:02 pm

And im supposed to blindly trust you because ______?

Luna Fox · Post Post #381 (isolation #94) » Thu Jul 14, 2016 6:10 pm

In post 379, Klingoncelt wrote:
In post 376, Luna Fox wrote:And im supposed to blindly trust you because ______?
Because I have every intention of us winning this game.

Rather than going through the Days and Nights like a bunch of individual middleschool noobs, we're going in like this year's Cavaliers, a tight team that can hit the ground running and win it all.

That means working together, coordinating, making plans & strategies.

So..
Who do you think is the scum in here then.
Everything's nice and all, but there will be someone trying to screw us over, and you're already arguing against whatever plans we had for ~reasons~ apparently.

Luna Fox · Post Post #382 (isolation #95) » Thu Jul 14, 2016 6:10 pm

In post 380, Nahdia wrote:A tight team starts with a team that doesn't refer to each other as "tards" or "cancer".

That too

Luna Fox · Post Post #385 (isolation #96) » Thu Jul 14, 2016 6:14 pm

Yeah obviously i totally do not care about the team and i totally did not halt the votes on copper.

But ok, let's keep pretending i dont care about the team then.

Luna Fox · Post Post #389 (isolation #97) » Thu Jul 14, 2016 6:20 pm

In post 388, Klingoncelt wrote:I think that Mastin grouped all the similar powers into each Neighborhood.

I think that Mastin grouped the same faction together and put a mole.

I mean...

It's in the OP.

Luna Fox · Post Post #391 (isolation #98) » Thu Jul 14, 2016 6:21 pm

Also i actually thought copper was claiming cop to try and save me.
But if what you say is true then we might find the mole by Day 2 then.

Luna Fox · Post Post #396 (isolation #99) » Thu Jul 14, 2016 6:28 pm

That's all fine and dandy, but are you sure all of us have the exact same Role? I already claimed mine, but im not exactly sure what kind of other type of role can help us find the mole.

Luna Fox · Post Post #402 (isolation #100) » Thu Jul 14, 2016 6:30 pm

Well i guess Race Cop would help too.
But i wouldnt be too quick to jump to the conclusion that all our roles can easily find the mole.

Luna Fox · Post Post #404 (isolation #101) » Thu Jul 14, 2016 6:31 pm

So... by targeting the mole with a Watcher... how are we exactly sure they are the mole?

Luna Fox · Post Post #405 (isolation #102) » Thu Jul 14, 2016 6:32 pm

Or a role cop for that matter.

Luna Fox · Post Post #407 (isolation #103) » Thu Jul 14, 2016 6:32 pm

In post 406, dramonic wrote:EDIT: A tracker or watcher would prove very little in terms of alignment if we were circle checking.

This.

Luna Fox · Post Post #411 (isolation #104) » Thu Jul 14, 2016 6:36 pm

Besides, do we even know if we can use our ability AND our factional NK together?

Luna Fox · Post Post #414 (isolation #105) » Thu Jul 14, 2016 6:37 pm

In post 412, copper223 wrote:I say we full claim nation location and race

Well for race everyone's gonna say Undead and no one's going to say Wulden anyway.

Luna Fox · Post Post #417 (isolation #106) » Thu Jul 14, 2016 6:39 pm

But ok i trust copper more than klingy so, you better have a good reason for this
Eastern Kingdom, Divitias, Undead.

Luna Fox · Post Post #422 (isolation #107) » Thu Jul 14, 2016 6:42 pm

Im totally using faction cop on dram tonight if he doesnt get serious.

Luna Fox · Post Post #425 (isolation #108) » Thu Jul 14, 2016 6:45 pm

Saying Wulden instead of Undead is akin to saying Mafia isntead of Town.
mastin did say that each faction had similar properties tho.

Luna Fox · Post Post #428 (isolation #109) » Thu Jul 14, 2016 6:47 pm

In post 426, Klingoncelt wrote:
In post 404, Luna Fox wrote:So... by targeting the mole with a Watcher... how are we exactly sure they are the mole?
A mole would attract Protects.

Why?
We can't NK within our own faction.
The wulden are more likely cult via the main thread flavor.
I don't even.

Luna Fox · Post Post #432 (isolation #110) » Thu Jul 14, 2016 7:04 pm

In post 431, Klingoncelt wrote:Every Cult I've ever heard of, the recruited members retained all their role card info, except for alignment.

Every cult i've ever PLAYED the recruited members lose all their powers.

Luna Fox · Post Post #435 (isolation #111) » Thu Jul 14, 2016 7:16 pm

You know what's funny
Based on Klingy's Narion and Location i think she's more likely town than anything.
Assuming she isnt lying about either of those.

But apparently... this was a waste of time to dram.... SOOOO

Luna Fox · Post Post #438 (isolation #112) » Thu Jul 14, 2016 7:20 pm

Klingon's already catching a lot of flak, so i suggest already putting into thinking some sort of Defensive Tactics.

Luna Fox · Post Post #441 (isolation #113) » Thu Jul 14, 2016 7:21 pm

In post 439, dramonic wrote:@Copper: I did. I'm the same nation, location and race as Nahdia and Klingon.

Uh Klingon and Nahdia are different.
Unless you meant same as me and klingon

Luna Fox · Post Post #445 (isolation #114) » Thu Jul 14, 2016 7:23 pm

In post 3, mastin2 wrote:Factions, loosely speaking, have general trends, sharing race, location, and nation. These traits are not, however, universal.

Luna Fox · Post Post #447 (isolation #115) » Thu Jul 14, 2016 7:24 pm

Yeah i think Nahdia is the odd one out.
Of course unless someone lied about their Nation or Location, but we all have the ability to check at least one of those.

Luna Fox · Post Post #449 (isolation #116) » Thu Jul 14, 2016 7:25 pm

I mean copper at least shares our Nation, Nadhia shares like nothing.

Luna Fox · Post Post #450 (isolation #117) » Thu Jul 14, 2016 7:26 pm

Well yeah i know.
And i only mentioned the former first.
But it'd be interesting if say Klingy, or you, tried to say that your traits were the same to try to blend in ^_^

Luna Fox · Post Post #452 (isolation #118) » Thu Jul 14, 2016 7:27 pm

I mean, if that's the case for everyone.
Then why even bother writing the first part.
I think they may have some relevance.

Otherwise.
Why the heck do we have nation/location checks if they dont tell us anything coz no one's gonna lie about them.

Luna Fox · Post Post #453 (isolation #119) » Thu Jul 14, 2016 7:30 pm

Or do you think mastin went and
"Ok let's put these things here just for flavor and give everyone the ability to scan one or the other because why the heck not"

Luna Fox · Post Post #457 (isolation #120) » Thu Jul 14, 2016 7:32 pm

Yeah.
Storm's scum.

Luna Fox · Post Post #461 (isolation #121) » Thu Jul 14, 2016 7:34 pm

Why should i believe you?
After trying to discredit this whole Nation/Location thing coz it doesnt favor you.

Luna Fox · Post Post #463 (isolation #122) » Thu Jul 14, 2016 7:36 pm

I'm pretty sure scum can get fake role PMs.

Tho that post was part of the reason i was townreading you before.

Luna Fox · Post Post #465 (isolation #123) » Thu Jul 14, 2016 7:37 pm

In post 456, Nahdia wrote:
In post 455, dramonic wrote:I'd do it

Luna Fox · Post Post #468 (isolation #124) » Thu Jul 14, 2016 7:38 pm

Yeah i wasnt planning on doing it in the main thread.

Luna Fox · Post Post #471 (isolation #125) » Thu Jul 14, 2016 7:39 pm

I mean if i do, ppl would immediately ask me questions about what in the PT caused the vote.

Luna Fox · Post Post #473 (isolation #126) » Thu Jul 14, 2016 7:41 pm

I mean i refuse to believe mastin posts something like that, and then nation/location has no relevance to anything.

Luna Fox · Post Post #475 (isolation #127) » Thu Jul 14, 2016 7:42 pm

Luna Fox · Post Post #478 (isolation #128) » Thu Jul 14, 2016 7:43 pm

then why give that cop ability to everyone.

Luna Fox · Post Post #482 (isolation #129) » Thu Jul 14, 2016 7:45 pm

In post 480, Klingoncelt wrote:
In post 453, Luna Fox wrote:Or do you think mastin went and
"Ok let's put these things here just for flavor and give everyone the ability to scan one or the other because why the heck not"
Umm... have you played in any of Mastin's large games before?

She would so do that.

I haven't

Luna Fox · Post Post #484 (isolation #130) » Thu Jul 14, 2016 7:47 pm

Ok fine jeesh i give up, whoever's sucm of you just NK me, im done trying to figure it out coz everytime i try apparently im doing it wrong.

Luna Fox · Post Post #488 (isolation #131) » Thu Jul 14, 2016 7:51 pm

So you're one of those freecheckers or whatever?

Luna Fox · Post Post #492 (isolation #132) » Thu Jul 14, 2016 7:55 pm

If the thread is clean then yes.
But if it's not scum are pretty likely to do something to me tonight.

Luna Fox · Post Post #495 (isolation #133) » Thu Jul 14, 2016 7:58 pm

Those roll eyes dont make me feel any better >_>

I feel like you're all mocking me >.<

Luna Fox · Post Post #499 (isolation #134) » Thu Jul 14, 2016 8:01 pm

Sorry.
Paranoia's getting to me u.u

Luna Fox · Post Post #509 (isolation #135) » Thu Jul 14, 2016 8:14 pm

Maybe he can check all 3 and didnt realize OR, he can check one of the 2 freely and he thinks he can check both at the same time?

Luna Fox · Post Post #515 (isolation #136) » Thu Jul 14, 2016 8:45 pm

Also i find it interesting that when i defended copper after he claimed being part of the Neighborhood.
Titus asked me for a risk if they are wrong.
I assumed this risk to be related my faction so obv losing a member of our faction is a big bad and i called it a 7.
But somehow she thinks that town will implode or something if they lynch us and they're wrong?

Apparently it's something related to a Hazard in her flavor, anyone has any idea what is all that about?

Luna Fox · Post Post #518 (isolation #137) » Thu Jul 14, 2016 9:00 pm

In post 516, Klingoncelt wrote:
In post 492, Luna Fox wrote:If the thread is clean then yes.
But if it's not scum are pretty likely to do something to me tonight.
What will they do and why you?

Because:

In post 3, Luna Fox wrote:Oh btw im a faction cop, because i forgot to mention that.

Luna Fox · Post Post #520 (isolation #138) » Thu Jul 14, 2016 9:01 pm

Not to mention that ppl in main thread already know as "I slipped my role" and "Scum want my role ded" even if they dont know what role i actually do have.

Luna Fox · Post Post #521 (isolation #139) » Thu Jul 14, 2016 9:03 pm

In post 2654, Titus wrote:Luna says there is a huge risk. Based on Luna's flavor and my own PM, I have my own speculations as to what that hazard is. That's moonlogic. I am trusting Luna that the risk is there anyway.

This is the post im talking about.

Luna Fox · Post Post #523 (isolation #140) » Thu Jul 14, 2016 9:09 pm

Nah they dont know we're undead, they only know we're non-human.

Luna Fox · Post Post #524 (isolation #141) » Thu Jul 14, 2016 9:10 pm

Tho technically if they racial check anyone in the PT, they're going to automatically assume all of us = Undead, and that might not be pretty.

Luna Fox · Post Post #525 (isolation #142) » Thu Jul 14, 2016 9:11 pm

Unless they hit the Wulden (if existant) in which case lol.

Luna Fox · Post Post #528 (isolation #143) » Thu Jul 14, 2016 9:15 pm

Well finding the exact posts in my ISO right now might be hard, and im sleeping soon, but i'll give you the bullet points of everything i've claimed in the thread.
1) I've claimed non human with the condition "Remove all threats to the humanity treaty, and at least one member with same win con alive"
2) Not knowing if there's more non humans with the same win condition or race, but everyone in this PT guaranteed same race with the exception of possibly 1-2 scum (working with 1)
3) That i slipped my role in the PT, and i've been paranoid about scum wanting to lynch me in thread for it.
4) That stormblade's part of this PT.

Luna Fox · Post Post #530 (isolation #144) » Thu Jul 14, 2016 9:17 pm

Other important factors i mentioned:
It's 250% bad if a member of my PT is lynched (for us), and they dont flip scum.
It's 250% excellent if a member of my PT is lynched, and they flip scum.

Somehow she thinks that the risk is for all town, rather than just this faction, but that turned out well anyway.

Luna Fox · Post Post #531 (isolation #145) » Thu Jul 14, 2016 9:18 pm

I called it human... because i forgot to include "new" i was just remembering off the top of my head at the time.

Luna Fox · Post Post #532 (isolation #146) » Thu Jul 14, 2016 9:19 pm

Actually i dont remember how i called it in the pre-game but im sure i called it human in D1 imma double check.

Luna Fox · Post Post #533 (isolation #147) » Thu Jul 14, 2016 9:20 pm

Here was the one in the pregame:

In post 327, Luna Fox wrote:
In post 330, davesaz wrote:
In post 324, Luna Fox wrote:
In post 315, Nosferatu wrote:well technically, there is no scum since everyone wins with their faction. But you said before you didn't have a nightkill right? In my eyes that's town.
Well my win condition indicates that i'm town so i doubt this is necessarily the case.
Are you referring to the having a night kill part, or winning with a faction part?
Referring to the part where i need to eliminate all threats to humanity thing and have someone with the same wincon alive.

Luna Fox · Post Post #534 (isolation #148) » Thu Jul 14, 2016 9:21 pm

This was in D1:

In post 877, Luna Fox wrote:
In post 873, Titus wrote:I'll admit this is a unique setup with multiple town factions, but I am supposing that town and scum still behave similarly and human = town.
Human is most definitely town.
There's also at least 1 non human race (mine) that needs to elminate all threats to the human treaty, but i dont know who shares this win condition.
That's pretty much all i've gathered so far.

Luna Fox · Post Post #536 (isolation #149) » Thu Jul 14, 2016 9:25 pm

well im off to sleep.

Luna Fox · Post Post #541 (isolation #150) » Fri Jul 15, 2016 4:23 am

I'm voting Kuroi

Luna Fox · Post Post #543 (isolation #151) » Fri Jul 15, 2016 4:29 am

Klingy said im voting her, so i correcteded her ^_^

Luna Fox · Post Post #544 (isolation #152) » Fri Jul 15, 2016 4:36 am

So many pages to read since waking up hehe ^_^;;
I find it funny how this is coming true:

In post 378, dramonic wrote:Honest question Klingon,
when you invariably gets wagonned by the rest of the game for you High Quality Play(tm)
, are you planning to throw us all under the bus in a hope we save your life?

Luna Fox · Post Post #546 (isolation #153) » Fri Jul 15, 2016 5:31 am

It's getting incredibly harder to not "bus" klingy u.u I should probably not have posted at all.

Luna Fox · Post Post #547 (isolation #154) » Fri Jul 15, 2016 5:35 am

Klingy really needs to go and obvtown it up.
But im only townreading her because she has the same nation/location as me at this point... ugh.

Luna Fox · Post Post #548 (isolation #155) » Fri Jul 15, 2016 5:40 am

I hope that gives me enough of an out without making me look bad, but if at any point klingon ends up claiming being part of the PT i hope ppl understand my hesitation.

Luna Fox · Post Post #551 (isolation #156) » Fri Jul 15, 2016 5:45 am

I am going to see if i can skit by with not posting for a few hours.
On one side i would love to lynch Klingon coz im still thinking she has the most likely chance to be scum.
On the other side... im very scared of being wrong about Klingon.

Luna Fox · Post Post #559 (isolation #157) » Fri Jul 15, 2016 8:33 am

Im not outing anyone i made that vague on purpose.

Luna Fox · Post Post #560 (isolation #158) » Fri Jul 15, 2016 8:34 am

Ugh this is frustrating.
Why couldnt we be just town neighbors instead of a faction that wins with town with scum possibly infiltrated.
It's like playing like scum without actually being scum (And im already pretty bad at being scum)
@_@

Luna Fox · Post Post #562 (isolation #159) » Fri Jul 15, 2016 8:36 am

No i said that in reply to Song who said i was too out there.

Luna Fox · Post Post #565 (isolation #160) » Fri Jul 15, 2016 8:40 am

Im starting to think that signingup for this game was a mistake >.<

Luna Fox · Post Post #566 (isolation #161) » Fri Jul 15, 2016 8:41 am

It looked fun on paper, but im getting more stressed out by you guys than by the actual stuff happening in the main thread.

Luna Fox · Post Post #569 (isolation #162) » Fri Jul 15, 2016 8:44 am

I'm just taking a break from this game.

Luna Fox · Post Post #571 (isolation #163) » Fri Jul 15, 2016 8:45 am

I am a person that has a hard time dealing with hidden information because i have this itch to try to solve everything at once, and the more information out there the easier that is to happen, but i also know the risks of information outing and they just happen impulsively, for A or B reason, im sorry that you think im a bad team player, also im sorry for everything i've done.

Luna Fox · Post Post #576 (isolation #164) » Fri Jul 15, 2016 8:52 am

Yeah but see.
I have a hard time faking anything.
This includes feigning ignorance to any sort of discussion about you guys.
I like having my opinions hard and understood, as well as having opinions on everyone.
But with the weird type of faction that we are, being town, but being afraid to lose any of you, i have a hard time trying to pretend to townread something that im actually not, and that will be noticed, staying on the fence doesnt help me either, and flat out ignoring it ppl are going to ask me anyway just like RAM did, the only way to truly ignore something is just to stay away from the thread, but then that's a scumtell of me.

Luna Fox · Post Post #598 (isolation #165) » Fri Jul 15, 2016 9:34 am

In post 578, dramonic wrote:If we were masons, would you go in thread and discuss it like that?

If we were actual masons i would've never mentioned Neighborhood in the first place.
But since this is supposed to be a Neighborhood i dont have any reason to be protecting any of you.

To answer your questions if we were actual Masons, yes i would defend you guys to the end of the earth if you're in any danger of being lynched.

Luna Fox · Post Post #600 (isolation #166) » Fri Jul 15, 2016 9:35 am

In post 577, copper223 wrote:You do not need to fake anything, if you don't think one of us is town say so freely in the main but add you'd rather lynch outside of the PT. That's honest and fair right?

See that's the thing
I don't want to lynch from inside the PT on Day 1.
But i currently have a very strong scumread on Klingy and if i out that in the thread, ppl would be like "WELL WHY ARENT YOU LYNCHING KLINGY INSTEAD OF KUROI"

Luna Fox · Fri Jul 15, 2016 10:02 am

Mostly she trying to take control of stuff in here.

Luna Fox · Fri Jul 15, 2016 10:04 am

In post 3056, copper223 wrote:@Toog
From your flavor can you tell if the scum faction is nosferatu or wulden?

and then im the one getting yelled at.

Luna Fox · Fri Jul 15, 2016 10:21 am

In post 608, copper223 wrote:
In post 604, Luna Fox wrote:Mostly she trying to take control of stuff in here.
And why is that scummy? From her point of view as town directing the pt block if she is confident of her reads, which clearly seems the case, is an optimal strategy.

It is also an optimal strategy if she's scum and wants to screw us over.

Luna Fox · Fri Jul 15, 2016 10:22 am

Excuse me tho, but im kinda... really paranoid of ppl trying to take themselves in the position of leader, because more often than not it means scum.

Luna Fox · Fri Jul 15, 2016 10:34 am

Well my only experience with Klingy is she wanting me dead anyway so...

Luna Fox · Fri Jul 15, 2016 10:35 am

Yeah site's lagging, but you still dont need to hit submit multiple times

Luna Fox · Fri Jul 15, 2016 12:57 pm

i dont even understand what is going in his mind.

Luna Fox · Post Post #623 (isolation #174) » Fri Jul 15, 2016 1:38 pm

Such psychology.

Luna Fox · Post Post #627 (isolation #175) » Fri Jul 15, 2016 1:57 pm

LQ's like bleeding town right now.
Why are you scumreading him.

Luna Fox · Post Post #629 (isolation #176) » Fri Jul 15, 2016 2:08 pm

He was pretty town in his frustration before that tho.

Luna Fox · Post Post #631 (isolation #177) » Fri Jul 15, 2016 2:13 pm

In post 630, dramonic wrote:OR, he was just mad about getting lynched and this is his last ditch effort to dodge the noose.

Doubt it.

Highly doubt it.

You can't fake that kind of emotion.

Unless you're LLD

Luna Fox · Post Post #633 (isolation #178) » Fri Jul 15, 2016 2:20 pm

Well it's kinda hard to explain how my gut reacts to emotion.

But i guess?

WT's frustration still felt very town

Luna Fox · Post Post #634 (isolation #179) » Fri Jul 15, 2016 3:38 pm

i think i missed something but is one of Titus posts saying that she's aligned with WT?

Luna Fox · Post Post #636 (isolation #180) » Fri Jul 15, 2016 3:41 pm

In post 2926, Titus wrote:I'm about a 7-9. Same as Kuroi and Wake.

That being said, if you feel better on Kuroi, stay there. I don't have a guilty. We're both voting scum.

While I'd hate a WT lynch,
I cannot prove their town without greatly damaging the health of the game state.
We have town mostly working together.

Luna Fox · Post Post #637 (isolation #181) » Fri Jul 15, 2016 3:42 pm

I think she's referring to outing more claims or something, but i could be overthinking it, what do you guys think?

Luna Fox · Post Post #639 (isolation #182) » Fri Jul 15, 2016 3:48 pm

And by work together she's like "I'm right, everyone else's wrong"?

Luna Fox · Post Post #642 (isolation #183) » Fri Jul 15, 2016 5:44 pm

inb4 another wagon sprungs onto Klingy

Luna Fox · Post Post #643 (isolation #184) » Fri Jul 15, 2016 6:00 pm

I'm just gonna stay silent for now and let this play out for the time being.

Luna Fox · Post Post #646 (isolation #185) » Fri Jul 15, 2016 6:55 pm

did i?

In post 3300, mastin2 wrote:Luna Fox: Expedience-->Unvote--->Almost50--->Stormblade-->Unvote--->KuroiXHF--->RAM--->KuroiXHF

Luna Fox · Post Post #650 (isolation #186) » Fri Jul 15, 2016 7:06 pm

And of course you conveniently miss where i said i left it vague intentionally.

Luna Fox · Post Post #654 (isolation #187) » Fri Jul 15, 2016 7:20 pm

In post 651, Klingoncelt wrote:That left me as the only one qualified to lead.

Nope Miss self proclaimed leader.

Luna Fox · Post Post #656 (isolation #188) » Fri Jul 15, 2016 7:21 pm

In post 655, Klingoncelt wrote:
In post 615, Luna Fox wrote:Well my only experience with Klingy is she wanting me dead anyway so...
I'm not trying to get you lynched, what are you talking about?

Not this game obv.

Luna Fox · Post Post #657 (isolation #189) » Fri Jul 15, 2016 7:23 pm

In post 3370, Almost50 wrote:
In post 2787, Expedience wrote:Where did you get BBmolla from?
In his post #7 he was first to claim non-human aligned with humans.
I'm asking Luna to confirm he is in that PT alongside the claimed 3 members, as well as tell us if there any other members w/o outing who they are.

This post is rubbing me the wrong way.

Luna Fox · Post Post #664 (isolation #190) » Fri Jul 15, 2016 8:27 pm

In post 661, Klingoncelt wrote:
In post 633, Luna Fox wrote:Well it's kinda hard to explain how my gut reacts to emotion.

But i guess?

WT's frustration still felt very town
But mine doesn't?

Curious.

Except i didnt read frustration, just rage ^_^

Luna Fox · Post Post #689 (isolation #191) » Sat Jul 16, 2016 4:59 am

In post 688, copper223 wrote:All for shooting Molla.

ditto

Luna Fox · Post Post #691 (isolation #192) » Sat Jul 16, 2016 5:40 am

Kuroi = Scum.

Luna Fox · Post Post #693 (isolation #193) » Sat Jul 16, 2016 5:50 am

In post 692, copper223 wrote:I think so too Luna, what's the thought process behind the read?

He seems to be pulling stuff out of thin air to scumread ppl
In particular i dislike his attack on Storm.
Also i dislike how he's supposedly strongly scumreading me before even reading my posts, then he does read my posts and fits that to his narrative.

Luna Fox · Post Post #707 (isolation #194) » Sat Jul 16, 2016 8:24 am

In post 703, dramonic wrote:Luna what exactly are you trying to achieve right now?

trying to read rb

Luna Fox · Post Post #708 (isolation #195) » Sat Jul 16, 2016 8:34 am

I really need a break from this game if im starting to see things that dont exist

Luna Fox · Post Post #716 (isolation #196) » Sun Jul 17, 2016 4:47 am

I just realized the implications of mastin's OP and now im even more paranoid of all of you than before

Luna Fox · Post Post #718 (isolation #197) » Sun Jul 17, 2016 4:54 am

I don't think Undead are guaranteed to be Undead Risen Slave faction...

Luna Fox · Post Post #729 (isolation #198) » Sun Jul 17, 2016 4:01 pm

Dammit dram, you should've waited for mastin to use her L-1 image! now she's gonna hate you forever XD

Luna Fox · Post Post #734 (isolation #199) » Sun Jul 17, 2016 4:49 pm

he flipped scum, or at least vampire.