Team Mafia 2018: White Flag — Day Six

[Ranmaru]

I think I have already explained why I thought Davsto may be scum on Day 4 already. Maybe not in a conversation with you. Shadoweh actually responded to me on this.

[Thestatusquo]

Lq, you are lying about creature. He doesn't have thos reads, he wouldn't have that read on me, and there's no accountability for him switching his reads on the spot to suit your vote like that

LOL, great case, top kek.

So it seems your case on me is based on things that cannot be proven. Why am I not surprised?

Why did creature's read on me change?

Why was he scumreading me?

What the fuck was that TSQ vote bullshit? Ranmaru was clearly bluffing and panicking. The fact that the momentum was put onto it by Dunn and Ran is even more of a red flag.

I still want a Ran lynch but I think it seems impossible at this point.

VOTE: Dunnstral

Justify voting me - why am I scum?

name one pro town thing you have done this game.

I stopped responding to you at one point

no sorry, not posting anything of substance at all does not count.

[Dunnstral]

I have nothing in mind, I just am genuinely confused why people don't see Davsto/CES when I do.

if you think I'm scum why are you "genuinely curious" about why I agree with you about what would be, from your POV, my scum buddy.

why are you prepping for the next day phase instead of seeing my lynch through?

How does arguing with ranmaru help here

[LicketyQuickety]

Lq, you are lying about creature. He doesn't have thos reads, he wouldn't have that read on me, and there's no accountability for him switching his reads on the spot to suit your vote like that

LOL, great case, top kek.

So it seems your case on me is based on things that cannot be proven. Why am I not surprised?

Why did creature's read on me change?

Why was he scumreading me?

What the fuck was that TSQ vote bullshit? Ranmaru was clearly bluffing and panicking. The fact that the momentum was put onto it by Dunn and Ran is even more of a red flag.

I still want a Ran lynch but I think it seems impossible at this point.

VOTE: Dunnstral

Justify voting me - why am I scum?

name one pro town thing you have done this game.

I stopped responding to you at one point

We are talking about Creature here. He's not a guy who goes into detail on shit, he just states things and gives his opinion. Do you really not get this? He said he didn't like your wagon anymore. IDK why, I still love it.

[Dunnstral]

I think TSQ is our best bet for scum

[Ranmaru]

Shea: Others besides yourself agree with you on that point, which is why I respond to you about it.

[LicketyQuickety]

I think TSQ is our best bet for scum

Convince me.

[Shadoweh]

There is a non-zero chance at any moment that I pass out and can't vote change fyi

[Dunnstral]

There is a non-zero chance at any moment that I pass out and can't vote change fyi

Are you at all considering TSQ right now?

[Lycanfire]

It was either CES or Dunnstral and the balance tipped squarely into CES at one point, is my recollection

The vote bloc of myself-Davsto-NSG never moving, Gamma being interested in it, Ranmaru being interested up until they weren't, and myself and NSG being way louder than anyone else is what made it inevitable. No other lynch was going through. Dunnstral was not at all a possibility yesterday. That's revisionist. Only yourself/Marquis/Shea/LQ wanted Dunnstral yesterday. Not exactly the most charismatic bunch. NSG wanted Dunnstral, but only after CES flipped.

[Thestatusquo]

cool. your read on dunn has shifted a lot and part of why you're so likely to be scum in my mind is you've moved in concert the last few days, you said he was scum at some point but never pushed him and quickly unvoted and have never voted him when it matters.

its very similar to your interaction with ces to be honest.

I'd like you to tell me, right now, why you think dunn is not scum.

[Dunnstral]

I think TSQ is our best bet for scum

Convince me.

You guys can lynch me tomorrow if it's not TSQ, and I have no doubt I'll get jumped on

If we don't lynch TSQ today, he's not getting lynched tomorrow.

You guys need to pick between one of me/ranmaru to stake your bets on, not both.

[Dunnstral]

Lynching me -> lynching ran is not our best odds of winning, and you're playing into scums hands if you do that

[LicketyQuickety]

Lynching me -> lynching ran is not our best odds of winning, and you're playing into scums hands if you do that

You wanna back that up with some math?

[Ranmaru]

cool. your read on dunn has shifted a lot and part of why you're so likely to be scum in my mind is you've moved in concert the last few days, you said he was scum at some point but never pushed him and quickly unvoted and have never voted him when it matters.

its very similar to your interaction with ces to be honest.

I'd like you to tell me, right now, why you think dunn is not scum.

I'm not confident in him being scum. I'm trying to be more accurate rather then just lynch incorrectly. That's why, generally I never go for players like Dunn, in general. My interaction with CES is similar to my interaction with yourself as well. I gave everyone the benefit of the doubt. I even gave Marquis the benefit of the doubt. The only concern I had with Dunn was 1) Not voting CES with me and 2) Voting LQ when he town read him. That's it. I see nothing else to vote Dunn for, when I see more for you, davsto, and quick.

[Ranmaru]

Dan, I want you to decide on a vote before deadline. We need you.

[Thestatusquo]

cool. your read on dunn has shifted a lot and part of why you're so likely to be scum in my mind is you've moved in concert the last few days, you said he was scum at some point but never pushed him and quickly unvoted and have never voted him when it matters.

its very similar to your interaction with ces to be honest.

I'd like you to tell me, right now, why you think dunn is not scum.

I'm not confident in him being scum. I'm trying to be more accurate rather then just lynch incorrectly. That's why, generally I never go for players like Dunn, in general. My interaction with CES is similar to my interaction with yourself as well. I gave everyone the benefit of the doubt. I even gave Marquis the benefit of the doubt. The only concern I had with Dunn was 1) Not voting CES with me and 2) Voting LQ when he town read him. That's it. I see nothing else to vote Dunn for, when I see more for you, davsto, and quick.

this is false. you have pushed me hard multiple times this game. you have attempted to get me lynched multiple times this game. you have called for others to vote me with you multiple times this game. you didn't do any of those things with ces or with dunn.

[ActionDan]

I think Shea has more of a chance than Dunn of being scum. Shadoweh is only confirming that for me via her vote. However I don't feel compelled to vote

Would it really be that bad if we just no lynch?

[Ranmaru]

I think Shea has more of a chance than Dunn of being scum. Shadoweh is only confirming that for me via her vote. However I don't feel compelled to vote

Would it really be that bad if we just no lynch?

Gamma will most likely be night killed, and we'll be in this same scenario but with one less vote, and Dunn possibly being lynched at that time.

[Thestatusquo]

If it meant lynching someone in my town pile I would no lynch here in a heartbeat. If dunn is town for you it makes sense to not vote. I don't really understand why hes town for you, though.

[Thestatusquo]

anyway, I'm going to bed for real this time. Work tomorrow is going to be fucking dreadful.

gl hf.

[Ranmaru]

Shea: I have pushed you harder, but I still reconsidered. I have asked others to join on CES, you are correct about Dunn though.

[Ranmaru]

I have a 2 week suspension from work. Sorry to hear you will have a bad day though. I know how that feels.

[Thestatusquo]

I don't think you ever reconsidered. your pushes on me follow a pattern. you declare me to be town for some small thing after no one joins with you, then you push someone else for a while, then someone else expresses suspicion of me, and you jump back to pushing me again.

you have declared me town almost exclusively when no one was willing to vote me and declared me scum when someone else said I might be scum.

this is part of what I mean when I say your positions are convenient to you.

[ActionDan]

Gamma will most likely be night killed, and we'll be in this same scenario but with one less vote, and Dunn possibly being lynched at that time.

The threshold goes down by 1 anyway and I'd be pretty happy with Gamma dying and flipping town. I know you're certain he's town but I'm not. Also Gamma's vote is fairly unpredictable so :/. It's on TSQ now but it could be on LQ/me/Dunn at any point.