Mini 520 - Triumvirate Mafia - ABANDONED

[Mastermind of Sin]

/afk all weekend.

[Beep! Beep!]

I don't understand how anyone could get away with suggesting we should lynch Trium players. CES did just that. There is no rhyme or reason for lynching a Trium unless we have something solid.

[mikeburnfire]

You make a good point.

VOTE: CES

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

I don't understand how anyone could get away with suggesting we should lynch Trium players. CES did just that. There is no rhyme or reason for lynching a Trium unless we have something solid.

I have never suggested lynching a Trium and I consider it a slip that you call Miztef one. I have only ever suggested lynching a claimed Trium.

Why? Because I think he's scum. Still do. And correct me if I'm wrong, but I do believe the point of this game is lynching scum.

Confirm vote: Beep! Beep!

[Toaster Strudel]

I have never suggested lynching a Trium and I consider it a slip that you call Miztef one.

I have only ever suggested lynching a claimed Trium.

Firstly, CES, in the above quotation, you claim to never have suggested lynching a claimed Trium. If that is true, what does this post of yours mean?

I've read the entire game and frankly, if we don't lynch Miztef, we'll never lynch any claimed member of the triumvirate. I think it's worth it.

Vote: Miztef

I understood this to mean that you wished to lynch a claimed member of the Triumvirate, namely, Miztef. When you vote for Miztef, and say that it is worth it to lynch a member of the Triumvirate, I think most people would take this as a very firm suggestion to lynch a claimed Trium.

Secondly, you say that you consider it a slip that I "call Miztef one," meaning that I called Miztef a Triumvirate. Is this the quote you are referring to?

Miztef: will not vote against Trium claim today.

Please explain how my not wanting to claim a claimed member of the Triumvirate yesterday constitutes a "slip." Note that I referred to Miztef, correctly, as a CLAIMED Triumvirate. Where is the slip?

It appears to me that you are attempting to build a case based on the distinction between a claimed Triumvirate, and other species of Triumvirate (such as dead ones, confirmed ones - if confirmation is truly possible). OF COURSE we are talking about claimed Triumvirates. It's a given.

And you have tried to push the idea that Triumvirates (claimed ones, as opposed to dead ones, or "confirmed" ones) should be lynched.

[Beep! Beep!]

I have never suggested lynching a Trium and I consider it a slip that you call Miztef one.

I have only ever suggested lynching a claimed Trium.

Firstly, CES, in the above quotation, you claim to never have suggested lynching a claimed Trium. If that is true, what does this post of yours mean?

I've read the entire game and frankly, if we don't lynch Miztef, we'll never lynch any claimed member of the triumvirate. I think it's worth it.

Vote: Miztef

I understood this to mean that you wished to lynch a claimed member of the Triumvirate, namely, Miztef. When you vote for Miztef, and say that it is worth it to lynch a member of the Triumvirate, I think most people would take this as a very firm suggestion to lynch a claimed Trium.

Secondly, you say that you consider it a slip that I "call Miztef one," meaning that I called Miztef a Triumvirate. Is this the quote you are referring to?

Miztef: will not vote against Trium claim today.

Please explain how my not wanting to claim a claimed member of the Triumvirate yesterday constitutes a "slip." Note that I referred to Miztef, correctly, as a CLAIMED Triumvirate. Where is the slip?

It appears to me that you are attempting to build a case based on the distinction between a claimed Triumvirate, and other species of Triumvirate (such as dead ones, confirmed ones - if confirmation is truly possible). OF COURSE we are talking about claimed Triumvirates. It's a given.

And you have tried to push the idea that Triumvirates (claimed ones, as opposed to dead ones, or "confirmed" ones) should be lynched.

[mikeburnfire]

Yeah, I'm pretty sure CES is scum.

[Rishi]

Here's the thing, though. Miztef might be a claimed Trium, but that doesn't mean his claim is true. I think several of us found it fishy.

If that's your only case against CES, Beep, then I think you need to look harder.

[Mastermind of Sin]

Rishi, do you have a better case on someone else?

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

Firstly, CES, in the above quotation, you claim to never have suggested lynching a claimed Trium.

No, I don't. I actually say quite clearly that I did suggest it.

Secondly, you say that you consider it a slip that I "call Miztef one," meaning that I called Miztef a Triumvirate. Is this the quote you are referring to?

No. Post 976.

It appears to me that you are attempting to build a case based on the distinction between a claimed Triumvirate, and other species of Triumvirate (such as dead ones, confirmed ones - if confirmation is truly possible). OF COURSE we are talking about claimed Triumvirates. It's a given.

Sure it's obvious when you think about it. But that doesn't mean there isn't a subconscious distinction that scum might make. And that's what slips are about: the subconscious.

And you have tried to push the idea that Triumvirates (claimed ones, as opposed to dead ones, or "confirmed" ones) should be lynched.

No. Strawman. I've pushed the idea that Miztef should be lynched.

[Mastermind of Sin]

CES, why do you think Miztef should be lynched?

[Rishi]

Rishi, do you have a better case on someone else?

I still don't like Beep's little explosion where she says we're all idiots (I'm paraphrasing here) and that the person who needs to be lynched is "obvious." It seems like her little explosion was an attempt to deflect any scrutiny against her. That's why my vote remains on her.

[mikeburnfire]

flea, mos, skitzer, miztef.

you guys have been in this game the longest. Do you support a CES lynch? If not, am I wrong in pursing it in your opinion?

[Mastermind of Sin]

Flea isn't in the game anymore...

MBF, what are your reasons for suspecting CES?

[skitzer]

A Beep! lynch seems better to me right now, but I'd like to hear your case against CES before I place a vote.

[mikeburnfire]

MOS, why do you keep asking people for reasons for votes without contributing your own?

My reasons for voting CES are because he's obviously scum to me. This is how he plays when he's scum.

[Mastermind of Sin]

I can't tell you if you're wrong in pursuing a CES lynch if I don't know *why* you are pursuing it.

Personally, I don't really understand wtf CES is doing in this game, but Beep's play hasn't really struck me as scum so far, and I'd like to think of myself as a fairly good judge of her play.

[Mastermind of Sin]

out of town this weekend

[skitzer]

mbf, I don't really like playing with metas. Because people change, and although this maybe what it is now, maybe it isn't tomorrow.

[Mastermind of Sin]

I think metas are actually fairly reliable, as long as you have decent sources and examples. Sure, people *can* change, but usually they don't. It's a good place to start, but not necessarily the place you should stop at.

[mikeburnfire]

I'm glad we're making such progress.

[Mastermind of Sin]

indeed.

[Beep! Beep!]

MoS do you think CES is town? If so, why? If not, why aren't you voting him?

[mikeburnfire]

Elephant.

(I'm just posting so that this game has more than one post per day.)

[Rishi]

Progress has halted.
Beep's like a broken record.
This game really sucks.

(Thought I'd grace you all with haiku.)