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[TheSweatpantsNinja]

Please unvote.

[OhGodMyLife]

Please unvote.

[shaka!!]

Why?

unvote:

[TheSweatpantsNinja]

Because if there is a three person scumgroup, they can quicklynch. There's certainly no harm in counting FOS's and when we get to four, lynching then. I also didn't notice that BM voted. He should unvote too.

I'll even try and keep a pseudovote count:

BM-1 (TSPN)
Shaka-1 (BM)
geraintm-2 (shaka, OGML)

[shaka!!]

Well I doubt that there is a 3 man scum group based on the serial killers appearance, but I'll keep my vote off until we decide who our lynch is, I suppose.

Also, more on Geraimnt soon.

[TheSweatpantsNinja]

There's no real downside except a little additional logistics work. And I would like to see a case on geraintm, because on my reread, he looks pretty good.

[geraintm]

i am dying to see why i am top of shaka's list...
it really, really intrigues (sp?) me why he thinks so.


pity that after today i won't be around to reply...

[Battle Mage]

Please unvote.

No. Unless theres something you're not telling me, there is no harm in voting at this stage. Especially when Shaka is so transparent as to give in to your demand blindly.

BM

[TheSweatpantsNinja]

When we reach a consensus, vote away. But since you're scum, I don't care so much if you unvote.

[soupfly]

well, my credibility must be shot after going after MS and siding with skruffs...bah.

[Battle Mage]

well, my credibility must be shot after going after MS and siding with skruffs...bah.

Skruffs was an SK, so not so much. Although I still dont see why people went after MS tbh.

BM

[Qman]

Prodding everyone later tonight. Work is a biatch.

[shaka!!]

No need for prod. Case on Geraintm coming soon. I promise not to let this become like my last promise, too.

[OhGodMyLife]

Gonna make time to do some backreading and present my list of suspects tomorrow.

[Battle Mage]

present and correct.

[TheSweatpantsNinja]

Prod received. Considering how long BM has voted, we know that either BM is scum, shaka is scum, or there are less than three mafia. That's useful, I guess.

But we should lynch BM. Sooner the better.

[Battle Mage]

rofl. Useful yeh. I mean its not as if i couldnt already have told you that Shaka is scum with 1 other person. -.-

furthermore, its not as if i dont check this thread every day in case of sudden bandwagonning.

BM

[shaka!!]

Prod received. Considering how long BM has voted, we know that either BM is scum, shaka is scum, or there are less than three mafia. That's useful, I guess.

But we should lynch BM. Sooner the better.

We had a serial killer, the game would be pretty unbalanced with 3 scum and 1 sk. I think it is a lot more likely that there are 2 scum.

[Qman]

DEADLINE IS COMING IF I DON'T SEE A MARKED INCREASE IN ACTIVITY.

Vote count:

Shaka!! - 1 (Battle Mage)

Not voting: Everyone else.

[ting =)]

Who is on the top of everyone's suspect list? Soup is on the top of mine. I've given my reasons, and:

well, my credibility must be shot after going after MS and siding with skruffs...bah.

strikes me as scummy.

[TheSweatpantsNinja]

Why so?

Obviously, BM is at the top of mine.

[Battle Mage]

Shaka is my top suspect, again, pretty obviously. TSPN could well be his buddy.

BM

[ting =)]

He's preemptively defending himself. Also, the post I quoted carries the implication of, 'i look so scummy now, oops. i couldn't possibly be scum.'

At least, that's what it looks like to me.

[OhGodMyLife]

Soup is my top suspect as well.

I will at some point take the time to gather up some better evidence, but the early day two spat between him and zeek, and the end of day one L-1 trap setting for zeek, are the main reasons.

Ting's point about him preemptively defending himself is also important, and adds to the whole picture for me.

[shaka!!]

right now, zeek is the person i am most suspcious of. i didn't like his play day 1 and still don't like it

day 1 moved way too fast for my liking. it felt like we rushed it. didnt help DS made it so easy for people to pil eon

the shot to kill Yvonne was very good. my reading of yvonne now of yesterday was your typical cautious cop, not wanting anyone to rush the game. do people think scum managed to guess she was a cop or got lucky?

A couple things about this post.

He claims that he is most suspicious of Zeek. Didn't like his game day 1 and still didn't at that point.

He claims that day 1 moved to fast yet he was part of the lynching party on DS. If he really thought day 1 was moving too fast you think he'd have kept his vote withdrawn. To me that sounds like scum trying to act pro town.

He also talks about the night kill, and is apparently the only one who thought yvonne was playing the cautious cop card day 1. His question about the night kill is what I find to be a very reliable scum tell. Scum often like to brag about their night kill when they get a good hit. I find scum often question the town about the mafias line of thought.

I am still caught on Zeek. This game has thrown me. Yesterday DS played so weirdly icouldn't read him at all, i couldnt see a situation where he could be town.
And zeek, i again am sitting here going "if he is town, then i can't understand why he has acted as he has"

Do you mind making your suspicions a bit more explicit, geraintm? And not only on the player you'll be voting for, please. Based on the posts you made I don't really know what I can expect from you. And that's a bad thing.

If we have a vig you should kill DS on the first night. That way if he's the jester he loses and if he's mafia he's still dead.

his post on the 9th - he quotes saying DS is saying he is vanilla, but he had said 3 days previous he thinks there are no vanilla in the game. why isn't he voting for DS right there? instead, he had voted on teh 7th for Lowell...

but, i havent got any strong suspiscions as to who else might be scum. hence me reluctance to push today

who says i think zeek is a miller?

and zeeks post on the vig, yeah i thought it was fishing. even if no one responds, i don't like people who sit around and say things like "the cop should invesitage so and so" or the doc should protect this guy. i think it is normally in the interests of the town to keep the existence of any roles secret especially at teh start of teh game, and the peopel who push forward mention of roles so early are not to be trusted

The way you've been harping on the one popular target all game is a great find.

Well based on my role I am pretty sure there are no vanilla townies in this game, so either way (if he's jester or not), he is lying to us.

might have been harping on Zeek a lot, but only since this post of his.
i have found this game difficult, i haven't picked up much on many players, and so the one thing i havefound wrong i have not dropped. I also found his introduction of the whole jester thing strange. i didn't think jester's would be in this game, and he used the kester thing to confuse the first day too much.
sorry if you don't like that i have concentrated on just the one person i have found suspicous

If we have a vig you should kill DS on the first night. That way if he's the jester he loses and if he's mafia he's still dead.

i quoted here Zeeks post, because you seem to think that i was directing the vig, but it was Zeek. I brought this up later because i felt it was something scummy Zeek had done.

Right now, i can't make up my mind over zeek.
i hated the miller thing, really do, but despite that i can't bring myself to vote for him and haven't really come close at any point in the game

How ever, as soon as myself and thing replaces in and Zeek is starting to feel some heat, geraintm backs off his case.

ting - my reading of zeek is just poor townie play. if he has been playing a mafia role like he has, then it is genius. faking his actions over the course of the game to make it look like miller, then my hat comes off to him.
i see him as overly paranoid townie, seeing something everywhere (and the way he has cast suspiscions on nearly everyone in the game)

If you notice, when he was suspicious of Zeek, he was very cautious about it. Not voting, pushing his suspicious here and there. And as soon as some other people pick up his chase and apply pressure he backs down.

This just seems all too.. cautious scum like to me.

At the moment he's topping my scum list.