Skruffs wrote:Note: I am aware that a few people have claimed, but I have been really busy this last weekend so I forget who claimed vig or whatnot. I'll figure it out later, but that is actually going to help me read this with a clean slate. I Think MNOWAX and Blazerunner both claimed *something* but I forget what.
Mnowax claimed vig, Blaze claimed cult recruit.
Armlx calls out Yos, for voting Blazerunner for OMGUS voting TheSilentSpeaker, who squirms delightfully and pulls up his 'official post' on OMGUS. The only way his post could be seen as applicable, though, is if he thought that A) TSS was town (or at least on his team) or B) he is twisting the normal OMGUS into something like this.
Armlx attacked me because he apparently was under the impression that I didn't think OMGUSing is scummy, probably because he got it confused with something else I said in a different thread. I showed that he was wrong, and he dropped the attack.
And yeah, I do think that Blaze's attack on TSS was an OMGUS attack, an attack entirely motivated by a desire to hit back at the person attacking you rather then one based on an honest suspicious. It looked like that to me. That wasn't the only reason I was suspicious of Blaze, but it was part of it. And now that Blaze has claimed scum, I think I can quite happily say that I was right about that.
Yos's 58: The setup takes pains to let everyone know what would happen if there are two cults (ie cult recruitors are unrecruitable) but there's nothing in the setup that would strongly indicate there is one recruitor or two, except for that line about the recruitors being unrecruitable.
Well, both in this thread and in the thread where he discussed the setup, the mod went into detail about what would happen if there were multiple cult recruiters, so at this point, I think it's likely that there are. Of course you are right that we don't know that for sure, which I think I already mentioned.
Yos suggests that tcult recruiters will lurk and fosses mnowax for suggesting townies do the same. Actually... I will give Yosarian brownie points for this one
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but has YOS been lurking? Most of his play up to that point has been... defensive, right?
Eh? Defensive how? I was only attacked once, by amrlx, and that was based on him misremembering a position I took in the MD forum.
Yos tells vanillas not to claim. WHy? IF forced to claim or die, you are requesting them to die. Why?
If someone claims vanillia, is that going to stop people from voting them? It really shouldn't, in any game, and certanly not here. All that does is help the cult figure out both who is and is not recruitable, and to figure out who is and is not a power role. If you're under attack and you're vanillia, you should defend yourself to the best of your ability without claiming; a vanillia claim won't help the town figure out if they should lynch you or not anyway, and if you manage to survive the vanillia claim does help the scum a great deal.
Yosarian attacks Mnowax for this... this is interesting, he suggests that DGB may have been attacked by BOTH the vig and the SK although it says in the rules that any and all kill attempts would be noted, and since DGB only was shot once we know that she was only attacked by one playe r(successfully, anyways). HE begins to pry Mnowax about what he knows; if Blazerunner was fake-soft-claiming, this is Yosarian trying to get a claim out of Mnowax, since Mnowax 'took the bait', which means if one is cult, the other probably is, too. The last bit about 'why would we kill the SK?" might be considered an additional defense of Blaze as something OTHER than cult recruitor - which is intriguing. I can't imagine the cult recruitor would defend a lowly recruit (even a recruited vig if that WERE the case) like that, which implies that yosarian might be the recruit.
YOu're being silly here. I thought Blaze looked suspicious quite early on and attacked him. I only opposed the bandwagon when it became about "Mnowax says Blaze killed DGB", partly because if Blaze did kill DGB then that might actually be a reason to want to keep Blaze alive; at the very least, the wagon really didn't make any sense at that point; and partly because I always wondered if Mnowax was just being wierd.
yosarian plays deaf and dumb... more fossing necessary
That's the second time you've said that, I still have absolutly no idea what the hell you're talking about, and it's starting to get on my nerves. I don't think I've ever "play deaf or dumb" in this game at all.
yos reasserts his SK thing, although he's been hiding out ever since blaze was 'caught', a dramatically different appproach.
"Hiding out"? WTF are you talking about?
141 -Curious what YOS meant in this post; who is he implying is the scum recruit, mnowax or blaze?
Mnowax. Blaze's repeated insistance that he didn't kill DGB sounded honest to me, and I was trying to figure out what was going on. I never really thought it was that likely Mnowax was a cult recruit doing a crazy gambit, but it did seem possible at the time.
I want us to win just for Yos' inevitable rant alone. -CrashTextDummie
HOLY CRAP! That post is enormous. I'll wait until you finish your read before commenting and/or starting an argument.
Please don't arbitrarily cut my quote.spring wrote:Your reasoning about how cult leader would play is also full of BS and WIFOM.
