Just about everyone I was suspicious of in this game is now dead and I'm now surrounded by a lot of people that strike me as townies. That's obviously not the case, so my thinking in this game obviously slid off the rails somewhere.
Apparently even scum hate lurkers.RangeroftheNorth wrote:I'm somewhat lost at this point. Rosso Carne may well have killed by a vig, but why would the mafia have targeted Earwig who was also under a fair amount of suspicion, and who might have been todays lynch? This doesn't make very much sense to me.
I do not really understand why you want the vig (if we have one) to come out. Wouldn't this just expose him to the mafia, if he was really a vig? And even him really being a vig is not that sure, since it would a good claim for an SK, too.Jester wrote:Also, it seems pretty clear to me that Rosso was vigged. The guy was acting like an ass, and certainly deserved his fate. And heaven knows he certainly drew any vigs we have in the game on himself. I don't think I've ever seen such anti-town behavior. It'd be hard to find a person in this game that didn't want Rosso dead, so finding out who killed him is going to be tough unless someone now wants to claim vig. I'm not a vig.
This makes me uneasy. Speculating about number of scum always makes me feel like its a mafia playing dumb.Nyktorion wrote:By the way, Jester, I would be careful with voting already... if there are three scum, we might be in LyLo already
Considering that this is a mini, then yes, we most likely have 3 scum and yes, I believe that does put us into lylo. Getting grumpy about speculation, thenextepisode, is not helpful at this point.RangeroftheNorth wrote:It's a pretty reasonable speculation at this point. It's not guaranteed that we have three scum, but it's a possibility that needs to be considered.
You know... that's interesting, and likely true. I hadn't even thought of that possibility. And a few days have now passed, quite long enough for the scum to have hammered a Batt-townie and have already won the game, since I'm not scum.Nyktorion wrote:By the way, Jester, I would be careful with voting already... if there are three scum, we might be in LyLo already
That is an interesting point, actually...I need to go re-find your case on Batt to see why you're voting him...you wouldn't happen to know what post it was, do you?Jester wrote:You know... that's interesting, and likely true. I hadn't even thought of that possibility. And a few days have now passed, quite long enough for the scum to have hammered a Batt-townie and have already won the game, since I'm not scum.Nyktorion wrote:By the way, Jester, I would be careful with voting already... if there are three scum, we might be in LyLo already
I think I'll keep my vote where it is, for the time being.
There are also a few holes in this theory, though.Jester wrote:You know... that's interesting, and likely true. I hadn't even thought of that possibility. And a few days have now passed, quite long enough for the scum to have hammered a Batt-townie and have already won the game, since I'm not scum.Nyktorion wrote:By the way, Jester, I would be careful with voting already... if there are three scum, we might be in LyLo already
I think I'll keep my vote where it is, for the time being.
Those are not holes in his theory, those are other theories. Big difference.Battousai wrote:There are also a few holes in this theory, though.
1) You could be scum, trying to get a townie to vote with you and then bandwagon with the other scum
2) There could be 2 scum, with another killing role (protown or anti-town)
3) The scum are waiting until your case get's a little stronger (probably nearer deadline) to vote to seem less eager.
4) One of the scum could be less active, thus making his partner(s) hold out for later.
But his theories also don't prove he's town. I think the point was just that it's safe to keep a vote there for the time being, though I'm mixed on my thoughts regarding that.RangeroftheNorth wrote:Perhaps it was a poor choice of words, but that doesn't deny his point. The fact that the scum haven't lynched Battousai yet doesn't in any way prove that he's scum.
He didn't say it proved him town, he said it was holes in the theory that he was scum, and he is right (whether you call them other theories or not is semantics). I agree with RotN here.Mizzy wrote:But his theories also don't prove he's town. I think the point was just that it's safe to keep a vote there for the time being, though I'm mixed on my thoughts regarding that.RangeroftheNorth wrote:Perhaps it was a poor choice of words, but that doesn't deny his point. The fact that the scum haven't lynched Battousai yet doesn't in any way prove that he's scum.
Does anyone else have any thoughts?
I didn't say he did say that, so I'm not sure why you're jumping to someone's defense who doesn't need it.Ectomancer wrote:He didn't say it proved him town, he said it was holes in the theory that he was scum, and he is right (whether you call them other theories or not is semantics). I agree with RotN here.