Dynamite Stick Mafia! GAME OVER

Surye · Post Post #200 (ISO) » Tue Apr 15, 2008 7:34 am

I really don't understand the implicit trust for quagmire coming from Adel, but I don't think that's really a tell for anything. In fact, I suppose a replacement doesn't have to be trusted, though it does create a state of "Agree with Adel or you are Scum". That said, I agree scum-adel wouldn't risk her self to blow the first light, there would be NO scum benefit. So Adel is town, and probably right strategically.

The top of my suspicions right now are Skruffs, Yos, and CES. And I really don't find CES particularly scummy so much as wildly dangerous to a town win, he seems to far driven by emotion, and if anyone sets adel off, I see it being him. Skruffs and Yos seem to be somewhat bussing by focusing on moot points, but I'm not sure.

Other then that, I haven't seen a lot of game making content, I will try to post thoughts more though to see if we can't figure something out.

kuribo · Post Post #201 (ISO) » Tue Apr 15, 2008 7:38 am

Surye wrote:I really don't understand the implicit trust for quagmire coming from Adel, but I don't think that's really a tell for anything.

I think the idea is that if the enforcer doesn't do it, then they should be blown up for hesitating.

Marmalade · Post Post #202 (ISO) » Tue Apr 15, 2008 7:40 am

Elmo wrote:Can't remember. Why don't you like me, apart from the lack of posting? What don't you like about that post?

Did I say I liked my vote? Good.

Anyway, the reason I am voting for you is because of this:

Elmo wrote:Claus: I don't have a lot yet, I was mostly waiting for people to stop being dumb. I don't really see Surye as scum right now, I feel slightly bad about Marmalade and CES.. also a little bit about Adel, although I'm not sure if that's because she's being Adel . I'd support Adel killing off anyone who strikes a light, and Yos' idea of having suspicious person #1 strike a light and then be immediately attacked by #2. I do figure that 90% of the talk beyond "don't be stupid guise" is superfluous right now. I happen to consider striking a light early both anti-town and a small towntell, though it's probably not really relevant. I don't really know about Yos' comment on three people; I'd lean towards it being null, because three seems quite low for a game of this size, and I can perfectly see him making a slip of the tongue. I do think Yos is right about lurking being especially harmful in this game.

Let's translate:

Elmo: "Golly gee, um, Marm looks a bit scummy, as does CES, but Surye doesn't and Adel might, but she might not. I don't really know what to think about Yos' comment, not about striking a light. I just don't know, really. Oh yeah, vote Marmalade."

Marm: "So, why are you actually voting for me?"

Elmo: "I dunno. But, why are you voting for me?"

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Your beginning part is

really

non committal, and your jump on me looks opportunistic. I think it's quite hypocritical to expect reasoning when you "can't remember" yours, and further, if you can't remember your reasoning, why are you still voting for me? Surely, the logical thing to do would be to remove your vote.

I've run out of time to reply to Skruffs (or look at recent developments) at the moment. Sorry!

UltimaAvalon · Post Post #203 (ISO) » Tue Apr 15, 2008 7:50 am

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Also, this game now has my full and undivided attention, whereas earlier, it didn't. Carry on

Adel · Post Post #204 (ISO) » Tue Apr 15, 2008 7:53 am

damnit. someone had better listen to me. quagmire is next up as enforcer, and if he dies without naming a replacement, PEG is his replacement.

Adel · Post Post #205 (ISO) » Tue Apr 15, 2008 7:54 am

DYNAMITE: UltimaAvalon

Adel · Post Post #206 (ISO) » Tue Apr 15, 2008 7:55 am

any last words?

Adel · Post Post #207 (ISO) » Tue Apr 15, 2008 7:56 am

DYNAMITE: ULTIMAVALON

just in case the first try didn't work.

Quagmire · Post Post #208 (ISO) » Tue Apr 15, 2008 8:14 am

Adel wrote:damnit. someone had better listen to me. quagmire is next up as enforcer, and if he dies without naming a replacement, PEG is his replacement.

that was pretty stupid. do you seriously think there's any chance that UA is scum, or are you just doing it out of policy?

Quagmire · Post Post #209 (ISO) » Tue Apr 15, 2008 8:14 am

because if it's the latter it's pretty dumb.

Sarcastro · Post Post #210 (ISO) » Tue Apr 15, 2008 8:17 am

Since when do people act smart in Bad Idea-type games?

Quagmire · Post Post #211 (ISO) » Tue Apr 15, 2008 8:36 am

Sarcastro wrote:Since when do people act smart in Bad Idea-type games?

Are you talking about Adel?

Sarcastro · Post Post #212 (ISO) » Tue Apr 15, 2008 8:39 am

I'm talking about people in general.

Skruffs · Post Post #213 (ISO) » Tue Apr 15, 2008 8:48 am

What the hell, Adel!?
10 hours was just TOO LONG for a day-period?

WHY IS ULTIMAAVALON MORE LIKELY SCUM FOR LIGHTING A MATCH!?
SCUM WANT TO LIVE!!!

Yosarian2 · Post Post #214 (ISO) » Tue Apr 15, 2008 8:58 am

Adel was just doing exactally what she promised to do, Skruffs, in order to try to deter anyone from lighting a match; and we do want to deter random people from lighting matches, after all. Unfourtantly, UA apparently wasn't paying attention to her threat.

I was afraid this would happen; I did try to convince her yesterday to use her own judgement on the policy and not to ALWAYS blow up anyone who struck a light, but she refused.

Well, there's one lurker down off my lurker list.

I guess he's as likely to be scum as anyone, let's cross our fingers.

By the way, I am somewhat suspicious of Skruffs here. He's gone to some pretty irratioal lengths in order to attack Adel, going so far as to suggest she'd blow herself up as scum in the hopes that townies would follow her lead, which makes absolutly no sense at all (why would townies follow her after she's confirmed scum?).

Skruffs · Post Post #215 (ISO) » Tue Apr 15, 2008 8:59 am

No matter how many mafiates there are, we will need that many (x)*3 + 1 players alive.
That means if there are 3 mafiates, we need 10 players.
If there are four, (more likely in my opinion), we need 13.

If Adel in her "quick lynch" fever (just like LML and blazerunner before) is a townie who just killed another town, then going into tomorrow we will be down to 13 players, which is lylo if we have 4 mafiates. If we have five, then we've lost the game because we will not have enough players to kill the scum after today, once you take nightkills into account.

Skruffs · Post Post #216 (ISO) » Tue Apr 15, 2008 9:03 am

Yos: When did I Suggest that Adel would blow herself up as scum to encourage others to follow her lead?
I suggested that she is pushing an 'immediate death as soon majority agrees to it' which is irresponsible considering three townies die with every mistake we make.

I don't know who first suggested killing off the first person to light a match, the whole concept seems designed exclusively to get townies to irrationally blow each others up. MAFIA have no reason to blow themselves up, so WHY encourage townies (who have to sacrifice themselves at least in part to win) to do so?

Skruffs · Post Post #217 (ISO) » Tue Apr 15, 2008 9:03 am

Yos is still way up on my list.

Yosarian2 · Post Post #218 (ISO) » Tue Apr 15, 2008 9:12 am

Skruffs wrote:Yos: When did I Suggest that Adel would blow herself up as scum to encourage others to follow her lead?

Ah...I thought that was what you meant here:

Skruffs wrote:
WHy would ADel-scum NOT potentially sacrifice herself at the expense of getting a string of townies to sacrifice themselves in killing other townies?

If that's not what you meant, then could you clarify?

I don't know who first suggested killing off the first person to light a match

Adel did. It was always her idea.

Again, we don't want people randomally striking lights, because we don't want people thoughtless killing people and because it would interfere with the "make the two scummies townies kill each other" plan. Adel was hoping to deter people from doing so by threating to kill anyone who did.

Anyway, I'm glad to hear Quagmire, even if he's the next "enforcer" under Adel's plan, will be using a little more common sense on the subject.

Elmo · Post Post #219 (ISO) » Tue Apr 15, 2008 9:37 am

STOP STRIKING A LIGHT YOU MORONS

skitzer · Post Post #220 (ISO) » Tue Apr 15, 2008 9:50 am

OK, I'm here, but It's hard not to "lurk" when the days last no longer than a few days.

Yos2's heaviness on lurkers on day1 is not good, because most people didn't have a chance to post. Also, his 3 scum slip is another factor, so tomorrow I will vote yosarian2, but seeing as we have a lynch already....blah.

Surye · Post Post #221 (ISO) » Tue Apr 15, 2008 9:54 am

Elmo wrote:STOP STRIKING A LIGHT YOU MORONS

Game winning post.

Yosarian2 · Post Post #222 (ISO) » Tue Apr 15, 2008 10:15 am

skitzer wrote:OK, I'm here, but It's hard not to "lurk" when the days last no longer than a few days.

Yos2's heaviness on lurkers on day1 is not good, because most people didn't have a chance to post. Also, his 3 scum slip is another factor, so tomorrow I will vote yosarian2, but seeing as we have a lynch already....blah.

Um, I didn't actually attack anyone for lurking until day 3.

Adel · Post Post #223 (ISO) » Tue Apr 15, 2008 10:37 am

yes, a policy lynch does result in three dead townies, probably even in this case....
but the alternative is worse: mad confusion and more irrational behavior.

I did what I promised to do, and if I had done anything else

the scum (yos2 + and skruffs)

would use it to push my lynch and confuse and mislead the town.

I advocate the death of quagmire if he hesitated to follow the stated policy we agreed to.

I heavily advocate the death of Skruffs and Yos2 asap.

Not lighting matches is a good way to end this.

Erg0 · Post Post #224 (ISO) » Tue Apr 15, 2008 12:04 pm

Sigh...