Quite possibly you were talking about yourself in both instances, but the way it reads is that first you were talking about Litral's overanalysis, and then your own.Walnut wrote:Welcome to q21! Thanks for replacing and thanks for jumping in boots and all, even if you did mistakenly vote for me.
I guess my suspicions of Litral could fall into Muerrto's category of overanalysing posts.In both of these posts I am saying that I am looking closely at Litral's posts and picking up on tiny possible flaws, because that is all I have to go on. I am conceding that, as Muerrto says, this may be overanalysing. I can see the contradictory angle if I was saying that my suspicions of Litral were caused byMuerrto calls it pointless overanalysis and chooses not to do it; I call it the one game of mafia I am allowed to play and choose to do it.hisoveranalysis, but I was in fact referring tomy own(potential) overanalysis in both posts.
I had been speculating about what any Demon king replacement would open with, and I must say you impressed me. The immeditate mention of your predecessor (as it could not be avoided) with the throwaway defence of "He was a first timer who got pressured so left" then moving straight on to lots of analysis, flinging a few FOS and a vote for the last player to be named in a post prior to your replacing was good. The defence is not as silly as it sounds- all you need to join the site is a valid email address, so you could get some fairly inexplicable behaviour, especially in the first few posts of someone's first ever game. Even so, you start with a burden of suspicion based on your replacee's brief contribution, and will have to work hard to clear it.
I definitely agree. While I am too lazy to count up the exact number of posts everyone has written, you have certainly done your share. The dead horse part is where we differ- to stretch the analogy I think some of us, having only the one horse to ride, are giving its sun-dried skull mouth-to-mouth resuscitation in a desperate attempt to keep it alive. Incidentally, one way to get a vicarious fix of mafia is to read other games, and I have read a couple here and am currently following a couple more. In one of these Muerrto was mafiascum and was partnered by a series of fairly unfortunate newbies who dug a deeper and deeper hole leading to a 2 day game, if I recall correctly. Hence perhaps the frustration with newbies (or perhaps a more definite attempt to stay unassociated with a potentially fatal partner...).Muerrto wrote: I don't think I've been contributing less but I simply got to the point where beating the dead horse was getting messy and monotonous.
In answer to Litral's request for a detailed analysis of all of the players in the game so far, I am reluctant to do this. One reason why is that we have Starkmoon posting soon and potentially Mike4876, and I would like for them to read the thread and come up with their own thoughts first, and not just be able to say "I agree with so and so" much. Just to check though- the first time you asked for a detailed analysis of all players currently in the game (post 105), then the second time (post 115) you saidWhat does it mean when a general analysis turns into an explicit argument? I think it means that my single vote sitting on you is making you edgy, and I don't mind that.Walnut, my request still stands; I want an explicit argument from you.
That said, I did a bit of headscratching about Mike4876, and reluctantly have come to the conclusion that he needs to be voted for. The tricky bit is that just possibly he has a legitimate reason for not posting, and statistically speaking he is more likely to be a townie, and even a silent one gives us an advantage in the win condition. However, if he is mafia, I am damned if I am going to be the fool who let him win by never posting.
Unvote, Vote Mike4876
As to the burden of suspicion sitting quite squarely on my shoulders: I wouldn't be surprised if you voted or even lynched me for Demonking's actions... all what, three of them? Hell, I'd have voted for him if I'd been playing. Lynching me for his actions is understandable, but it would be unfortunate and vaguely annoying.
As for Mike, he's been at L-3 for 13.5 hours followed by L-2 for a further 7 hours. This is me sticking him at L-1.
Vote: Mike
Its do or die time for you now, Mike. No one actually drop the hammer straight away, at least give him the chance to pitch up. Though the only thing that might save him is a power role reveal, which I'd be disinclined to believe.
Official Vote Count
massive - 1 (q21)
snaoo - 1 (massive)
Muerrto - 1 (snafoo)
Mike4876 - 3 (Muerrto, Super Archivist, Walnut)
Not Voting - 3 (Litral, mike4876, starkmoon)
5 to Lynch
Nice play. I'm reading some games and all I can see is on the surface - people seem to implicitly know everything underneath. I see how your "Litral's reaction is noted" would've squeezed out a defense from me if I really was suggesting you not vote him. If it doesn't affect the gameplay, I'd love to read more explanations like this.
