Mini 533: Something wicked this way comes! Game over!

[geraintm]

hello there
am back from holiday

am surprised so little posting whilst i was gone

write more later

[Qman]

Retractable deadline: April 30th.

Get posting.

[OhGodMyLife]

A combination of my reread from before the zeek lynch which I should have made better notes on and gut are telling me that soup and two of battlemage/geraintm/ting are the scum.

If there are two scum and not three my feelings on soup still stand. Several people seem to think this is the likely setup, I hope they're right and we're not in LyLo.

vote: soupfly

[Battle Mage]

OGML, Why is Shaka not on your scumlist?

BM

[OhGodMyLife]

There are too many scummy people in this game and not everyone can be scum. To me he seems less likely than those I did list.

[Qman]

Soupfly has requested replacement. Looking

[OhGodMyLife]

Do you see what happened there?

[geraintm]

A couple things about this post.

He claims that he is most suspicious of Zeek. Didn't like his game day 1 and still didn't at that point.

He claims that day 1 moved to fast yet he was part of the lynching party on DS. If he really thought day 1 was moving too fast you think he'd have kept his vote withdrawn. To me that sounds like scum trying to act pro town.

He also talks about the night kill, and is apparently the only one who thought yvonne was playing the cautious cop card day 1. His question about the night kill is what I find to be a very reliable scum tell. Scum often like to brag about their night kill when they get a good hit. I find scum often question the town about the mafias line of thought.

This has been gone over before, Lowell asked about it and i replied ont eh 10th of jan. did you not see my reply to that post?
Skuffs brought it up too

How ever, as soon as myself and thing replaces in and Zeek is starting to feel some heat, geraintm backs off his case.

ting - my reading of zeek is just poor townie play. if he has been playing a mafia role like he has, then it is genius. faking his actions over the course of the game to make it look like miller, then my hat comes off to him.
i see him as overly paranoid townie, seeing something everywhere (and the way he has cast suspiscions on nearly everyone in the game)

If you notice, when he was suspicious of Zeek, he was very cautious about it. Not voting, pushing his suspicious here and there. And as soon as some other people pick up his chase and apply pressure he backs down.

This just seems all too.. cautious scum like to me.

At the moment he's topping my scum list.

yeah, you have me described well, very cautious, not voting.
reason, i was never sure enough to vote and i tend take my time over voting and placing votes.
with my role, i don't have much info to go on. what i do have made me doubt zeek's claim and his reasoning.
but if i am scum, why didnt i vote for zeek? he was very lynchable, i doubt there would havebeen much if a ramification from it.
and if i was scum, it would have been easier to have got him lynched so long ago? rather than sitting on the sidelines and hoping all the silly townsfolk went the wrong way?
and, as you "must" by town, coulnd't i have voted for you at the same time when it was all zeek vs you.

[Battle Mage]

Do you see what happened there?

are you referring to Soupfly's odd choice of time to make an unexplained departure? If so, i'd probably agree it was scummy, were it not for the fact that i'd considered the exact same thing. :p

BM

[Battle Mage]

Geraintm, do you wanna proxy your vote to me?

BM

[geraintm]

no, no i don't

[Qman]

FaerieLord Replaces Soufly

Prods tomorrow

[FaerieLord]

Rereading this thing (I already read parts of it. Have yet to read it all)

[FaerieLord]

Read first 8 pages. 4x that amount to go 0.o

[TheSweatpantsNinja]

Ha, welcome, faerielord. I wish I could say that sending you to read this game was a devious scheme to get you to replace in.

[FaerieLord]

That was the final result in the end :p

[Battle Mage]

what is going on?

[OhGodMyLife]

I hate having to lynch somebody who was so kind as to replace into this long and verbose game but the switch from soupfly to fae does not change my opinion.

[shaka!!]

Anyone care to respond to my Geraintm case?

[geraintm]

didn't i respond?

[FaerieLord]

I hate having to lynch somebody who was so kind as to replace into this long and verbose game but the switch from soupfly to fae does not change my opinion.

Telling me, this game is pretty boring to be honest. Up to about page 20.

[FaerieLord]

Something small to chew on while I continue my read.

Spoiler: Case

Lowell

1st Post - Nothing
2nd Post - No reason vote
3rd Vote - Barn
4th post - Lazy post
5th post - Lazy post
6th post - Says TSPN was following the crowd, which was not the case. Other than that an average re-read
7th post - Prod reply
8th post - Excuses inactivity
9th post - Lazy post
10th post - Prod Reply
11th post - His first good post. What I found funny was this. He said he doubts that sable is scum with ogml, but yet still foses him and puts up a better case than the one he put up about OGML.
12th post - Calls OGML out for something he has done all game
13th post - Barn
14th post - Lazy post
15th post - Admits to skipping posts (TSPN asked a couple of times)
16th post - Ok post
17th post
- First point: "Because it suited my case." Ignored the fact that DS was going to explain at -1
- Second point: TSPN's case was not about not believing jester
- Third point: Evades
- Fourth point: Evades another point
- Fifth point: I don't get what he is trying to say
- Sixth point: Admits ignoring any motivation zeek had
18th post
- First point: Nothing really that bad. Just forgetting again
- Second point: Ignores the fact that OGML had a case already
- Third point: Why would scum be so bold? It's certainly a spotlight check.
- Fourth point: Argues that keeping low profile won't make you survive. Meanwhile, he's still alive.
- Fifth point: Argues that Michel was not vocal day one, but said that OGML is sticking to the most vocal player before hand
- Sixth point: See above? I don't get it...
- Seventh point: He said that Sable didn't want to stay there, yet before hand says that Michel is the most vocal. Vocal players tend to post thoughts
19th post - Lazy post
20th post - Lazy post
21st post - Barn
22nd post - Prod reply
23rd post - Excuses inactivity
24th post - Lazy post

Shaka!!

1st post - Welcome post
2nd post - Excuses inactivity
3rd post - Repeats Zeek case
4th post - Excuses inactivity
5th post - Good post (Zeek)
6th post - Excuses inactivity + Lazy post (Zeek)
7th post - (Zeek)
8th post - "Claiming before lynch is rarely useful"
9th post - (Zeek)
10th post - (Zeek) + Disagree with his likely thingies, considering Zeek is pretty much a newb
11th post - Posts a soupfly case, but decides is boring so continues on Zeek
12th post - Saying he is reading
13th post - Says he is reading + Confirms skruffs read on Sable
14th post - (Zeek)
15th post - Saying he is reading
16th post - (Zeek)
17th post - (Zeek)
18th post - (Zeek)
19th post - (Zeek)
20th post - (Zeek)
21st post - (Zeek)
22nd post - (Zeek)
23rd post - Says he is reading
24th post - Says he is reading
25th post - Says he is reading
26th post - (Zeek)
27th post - Says he is reading
28th post - (Zeek) plus a bit of MSH
29th post - Covers skruffs
30th post - (Zeek)
31st post - (Zeek)
32nd post - (Zeek)
33rd post - (Zeek)
34th post - Covers skruffs
35th post - Says he is reading
36th post - (Zeek)
37th post - (Zeek)
38th post - (Zeek)
39th post - Excuses aggresiveness
40th post - (Zeek)
41st post - Says he is reading
42nd post - Corrects Qman
43rd post - I like the first part of this post
44th post - Finished reading (Huzzah! Note: He said he would not comment on aything before he finished his read during one of the first few posts...lol)
45th post - (Zeek)
46th post - Excuses inactivity
47th post - (Zeek)
48th post - (Zeek)
49th post - (Zeek)
50th post - (Zeek)
51st post - (Zeek)
52nd post - (Zeek)
53rd post - Excuses inactivity
54th post - (Zeek)
55th post - Finally, not zeek. A good post
56th post - (Zeek) + Talks with MSH on semantics
57th post - (Zeek)
58th post - Votes geraintm
59th post - Unvotes
60th post - Delays case
61st post - Delays case
62nd post - Speculation (I'm also assuming there is 3 scum and 1 sk)
63rd post - Case on geraintm (Which I think is kinna meh)
64th post - Tells people to answer

Lowell played all out scummy. He avoided questions, lurked and created sub par cases which were full of loop holes.

Shaka just really liked Zeek. I mean, discussed only zeek. He had an aim, and he was going to do it. I find it surprising how his reread produced that much content on zeek, and then such little content about the rest, especially the MSH vs Skruffs and QuickBen thing, which he spent more time saying he'll do it, than actually doing it.

Continuing my read on other people.

Got townie vibes from petunho, which kind of drifted along with BM

Neutral vibes from OMGL and Geraintm (Verging towards townie vibes)
Neutral vibes from Ting and TSPN (Verging on scummy vibes)

Reviewing last two people in vacuum now.

[OhGodMyLife]

Fae's post has reminded me of just how scummy lowell was, which is to say, very very scummy and the person that I really wanted to lynch until he got replaced and the game dragged to a halt and I got fed up with zeek. Shaka did a good job of staying just under the radar and going with the flow, which also pushed it to the back of my mind (the extreme duration of this game also aids in forgetfullness), but he was pretty obviously doing nothing but pushing the zeek thing, and hard.

So,

unvote, vote: shaka!!

,
should have just kept with this yesterday.

Revised list of people I think are also probable scum: fae, bm, geraintm

[TheSweatpantsNinja]

That's a good case, faerielord. I'm at least halfway sold on that.

[OhGodMyLife]

Shakascum would probably lower fae on my ranking, but I also see this as possible bussing/distancing.