Mafia 74: Minimally Flavoured - Game over!

[Toaster Strudel]

@Toaster Strudel: Could you explain this statement please,

A TWO-shot vig is a little bizarre. A one-shot vig, or a regular vig, but TWO shot???

Do you think Panz has falsely claimed? If so, in what way? If you think his claim is false, why have you unvoted him?

Absolutely.

Do I think Panzer falsely claimed? Everybody else seems to believe him, though I cannot fathom why. As I stated earlier, two-shot anything is pretty weird.

I unvoted him because much to my dismay, he appears to be widely believed. The one tiny thing in Panzer's favor is that he didn't resist claiming. So I moved on to another player.

But seriously, why do people believe a two-shot vig???

[Rishi]

Scumputer data

I read it again, it's perfectly clear. Just read it. It's all explained.

It is clear, but what I am looking for is a bit deeper analysis. All of your thoughts are on the surface without much justification.

[Toaster Strudel]

For the record, I'm not a deep thinker. All the justification is there, though. I can't add more.

[PJ.]

Yeah but if your scum the scumputer doesn't mean shit, because the scumputer is just random shit you compile anyway based on shit in your head that you think is important.

Unvote, Vote:TS

Scumhunting and forcing a claim without any real reason is scummy. Not being able to provide analysis is scummy. You are scummy.

[Toaster Strudel]

Panzer, does this have something to do with my not believing your claim?

[PJ.]

no it has everything to u being a bad player and how the scumputer is so bias and should never have been considered by any group an actual attempt at scum hunting. It based on random things that you deem scummy and then pops out a silly number and the criteria changes when ever you feel it necessary and it much to easy for you to get the result away from your scum team. I think you are scum and may have left on of you buddies in the top 3. but of course not 1. So Phate of Xyzzy. Anyway. Your scum.

[vollkan]

I just ran a google search. This is the ONLY game which turns up a result for "two shot vig"...

[Bookitty]

Actually, Vollkan, try "two-shot vig".

You'll get a few more.

[vollkan]

I even get more for "one shot vig". The reason I was only getting this game was because google was doing the "In order to show you the most relevant results, we have omitted some entries very similar to the 2 already displayed. If you like, you can repeat the search with the omitted results included."

[PJ.]

It doesn't matter

FoS:Vollkan

We are not gonna lynch a claimed vig this deep in the game.

[vollkan]

Which would be valid if not the fact that no less than 14 posts ago I explicitly affirmed that you were not on my lynchable list.

[PJ.]

UnFos: FoS:Panzer

for not reading and remembering

[Snaps_the_Pirate]

I believe Panzers claim. In post 782, I explained why I feel we have a vig rather than an SK. If Panzer has falsely claimed wouldn’t the real vig have counter-claimed by now?
Like Vollkan and Bookitty, I also did a google search of “2- shot vig”. A 2- shot is rare but not unheard of.
The deadline is fast approaching and it is starting to look like we may miss it. I’ll cast my vote now, but I will check back Sunday and move my vote if necessary to secure a lynch.

Vote Phate

[vollkan]

Vote: Snaps

See previous page, PBP, and my other comments for reasons for this. With the deadline approaching, this is where I most want my vote. I am not dogmatically settled, but this is my top candidate.

[Rishi]

Just checking in before deadline. After my re-read, I don't like the way xyzzy is playing (nor thedragonsprincess in her brief time in this game). I don't know if it's enough for a vote, and there doesn't seem to be enough support for a xyzzy lynch. I don't feel Phate is scum, at this point. He hasn't really been super active on the site lately, which leads me to believe he's disappeared or lost interest in this game. Nothing about his play seemed particularly scummy, though.

So, I guess my vote stays on Snaps. I'm not convinced, but it seems the best lynch at this point.

[Bookitty]

To avoid a no-lynch (and because I'm not sure I'll have a good chance to check in later in the day) I will

vote: Snaps

to ensure we get a lynch.

This may be overkill, but as far as I can see there are only four votes on him, so that ought to be a lynch.

[Snaps_the_Pirate]

Panzer, why did you target CKD on night one?

Still waiting for an answer.

I don't like the way xyzzy is playing

What about his play do you not like?

I am dead set against Kison and Panzerjager deciding in thread who to investigate/vig and then doing so in tandem......Saying who the targets will be only gives the scum perfect advance warning of whether to roleblock or not. It seems much better to me that Kison and Panzer target their primary suspects, independently and without advance warning to the scum.

I agree with Bookitty here strongly, and find it strange that Panzer would suggest a ploy that plays so clearly to scums advantage.

That there are not more then two scum on each bandwagon is a very bold assumption. TS has based her entire argument off that assumption.

I still feel that TS has made an unwise assumption.


As I'm am leading in votes, I will not be changing mine.

[Snaps_the_Pirate]

I can see there are only four votes on him, so that ought to be a lynch.

Not quite, Panzer unvoted me in post 803, so with your vote I am now at four. (Xyzzy, Rishi, Vollkan, Bookitty) Need one more to lynch. I'll go ahead and claim, though I doubt it will save me. I have no special powers and am just a vanilla. Had fun playing with you.
:waves:

[PJ.]

Unvote:Vote:Snaps

[Phate]

Hey, I'm really sorry I didn't have a chance to post this weekend. Saturday I was out with friends and then went to a play, Sunday I went to the state chess championship (and went 4-0, might I add).

Vote: Snaps

for the sake of a lynch.

[Elias_the_thief]

Um...I messed this up somehow...snaps died.

[Elias_the_thief]

Again, sorry for the delay...schools a bitch. The sun rises once again in Townville. This time only one man died. And that man was the beloved cop Kison.

Kison,

Cop

, killed Night Four.

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It is now

Day Five

. With 7 alive it will take 4 to lynch. Deadline for today is

Tuesday, May 13th

, at 10 PM EST (I moved it up a week due to a lower amount of players).

[Toaster Strudel]

After Snaps was lynched and turned up scum (my analysis had him pretty townie), I checked the obituaries again and then I realized...

17) Xylthixlm, mafia goon, killed Night One. (brown mafia)
16) egruntz, mafia goon, lynched Day Two. (red mafia)
18) Snaps_the_Pirate, mafia goon, lynched Day Four (brown mafia)

Soooo... three mafia goons. And two different colored mafias. So folks, we have two mafia here not one, and I didn't take that into consideration when I input the data in the Scumputer. Not only does this change everything, but I have never had to deal with two scum groups before. I am going to try, it's going to be an interestingn challenge.

[Rishi]

Only one kill last night. Perhaps one scum group is eliminated?

Panz - did you try to use your power last night?

[PJ.]

yes.. i was blocked by Bookitty