Mini 578 - Mistery at Montescuro - Game Over!

[Macavenger]

Guardian go to bed you crazy freak, it's got to be 2am where you are. Staying up that late in college isn't any good, I should know; I did it way too much.

[Guardian]

i say 'near you know you are town'

cuz if he's scum, my logic dont matter to him. but feel free to say that 'o shit guardian knows near is town'..

[Guardian]

Guardian go to bed you crazy freak, it's got to be 2am where you are. :P Staying up that late in college isn't any good, I should know; I did it way too much.

but but but we gotta lynch the scumz....

[Near]

Near, explain why you think Dasquian is scummy? I was rereading your posts, and I see a hop from "I don't think Dasquian is scum" pretty quickly into "I see a Dasquian/Mac scumpair" into "Hey guys let's kill the duck not me" and not a lot of reasoning in there. There could be a bit there, I'm speedreading so may be missing stuff, but if you could put your reasoning up again it would help.

I will resummarize.

- Most of the day he was insistent on lynching me. Without much reason. You and Dasquian were both main bandwagoners who put me at L-2. You guys cited 3 reasons
A. My random vote in non-random voting stage. I can possibly accept that a person getting initially confused about my random voting and consider it scummy. But I explained it. I random voted Yossarian. DO you accept that much? I cited a book called Catch-22. Made a joke reference to it. Then voted him. THen I made two more FOS on something ridiculous like "watch for post restrictions". You guys dismissed it later, saying your main reason for suspecting me was my lurking. Yet, you guys brought this up again when you guys put me at L-2 again.
B. My lurking. Yes I admit, I didn't post as much as some of you guys, but I wasn't even the least active player. And like I said, I don't even find lurking a good strategy for scums
C. WIFOM statement. For the 4th time, I was not making a WIFOM statement I was pointing out Guardian's. But even if I were, does that make me the scummy enough to lynch me today?


I can see a connection between Dasquian and Macvenger. Of course I could be wrong, but I can sense it. THis is reinforced by the fact that Macvenger is willing to lynch Coron who has claimed tracker over Dasquian. Also the fact that Dasquian has unvoted me when it was finally pretty clear that I'd get lynched does not help his case either.

[Guardian]

near, voting coron will gain you great benefit.

im shutting off

[Near]

<-insomniac

I find 1 and 2 most likely also. 2 maybe more likely than 1. HM.

I dont believe Coron, and you shouldnt either near.

know why? his claim was bullshit. mbf pointed this out. and coron has been playing for years.

he knows enough to know that tracker isnt a likely role -- AND THATS EXACTLY WHY ITS GREAT FOR SCUM TO CLAIM.

in additon, all the stuff mbf said about coron being able to come up with 1 of like 5 different kind of results that are useless, without being directly suspect for the results at all.

near, vote coron.

But can a cop or some kind of investigative role coexist with tracker role? Maybe, but I doubt it's likely, right?

[Macavenger]

I never actually decided for certain whether I was willing to lynch Coron. Actually right now I'm uncomfortable with how hard Guardian is pushing for it. I really haven't liked any of Coron's play today, though. he looked pretty anti-town to me before the claim. Regardless, now it looks like I'm not going to get that choice.

[Near]

if near isnt gonna vote coron, then im prolly gonna switch my vote back to near, unless im asleep.

near, you know you are town. you can AT BEST spculate that coron is town.

letting a confirmed townie die so a maybe townie power role can live may seem like good idea, but ISNT.

except that he's not a vanilla townie. I am confirmed (To myself) but i don't have power role.

[Guardian]

it can, likeliness depends.

but even assuming it absolutely could not:

would you want a cop to come out day 1 in response to coron's claim?

the manner he claimed was so supsiocus.

getting a cop to come out would be exactly what he wants if he is scum.

[Macavenger]

Near, how do you feel about lynching DBE? Do you think she's been scummy, and if so, why? If you're not willing to see Coron lynched, it's between you and her.

[Guardian]

coron is by far better die coron die scum scuk die

claim early to draw doc protect and get counter claims that he can weasel out of definitely scum die suck die lynch kill coron!!

this is the way of truth.

[Near]

Near, how do you feel about lynching DBE? Do you think she's been scummy, and if so, why? If you're not willing to see Coron lynched, it's between you and her.

I was fine with it until you wanted to lynch him. Since I Think you are a scum, I want to lynch someone you don't, like Dasquian.

[Guardian]

near,mac could be busing. for example, if mac is scum with coron, if you vote coron, mac might just be like 'well nah, i prefer near to coron'.

voting who you find most suspicious & has a chance to be lynched if mac is town is the best play here.

if mac isnt town, and you vote someone, and he is like, oh, well, actually, ill lynch near, that gives us good info for tomorrow.

assume he is scum and choose between coron (good choice) or dbe (much worse choice imo) and run with it.

[Near]

Near, how do you feel about lynching DBE? Do you think she's been scummy, and if so, why? If you're not willing to see Coron lynched, it's between you and her.

I was fine with it until you wanted to lynch him. Since I Think you are a scum, I want to lynch someone you don't, like Dasquian.

Again, I am saying this because DBE also claimed power role. If you are indeed a scum, Mac, then this guarantees that DBE does has some kind of power role (unless you are busing).

Let's lynch dasquian, Mac.

[Macavenger]

Accusing me of being scum is not exactly a powerful motivator to let you live.

I'm not really sure I want to lynch anyone right now, but we have to lynch someone, and the way the votes are arranged, I pretty much have to be the decider, barring someone else logging on at the last moment.

[Guardian]

too tired to be intelligible *assume he is town...

[Guardian]

near, coron is super likely lying. vote him.

::good decision::

follow the force.

lying scum = lynch = die = town profits.

[Near]

near,mac could be busing. for example, if mac is scum with coron, if you vote coron, mac might just be like 'well nah, i prefer near to coron'.

voting who you find most suspicious & has a chance to be lynched if mac is town is the best play here.

if mac isnt town, and you vote someone, and he is like, oh, well, actually, ill lynch near, that gives us good info for tomorrow.

assume he is scum and choose between coron (good choice) or dbe (much worse choice imo) and run with it.

Possible that mac was busing coron, but i don't find that likely at all. I think it is more likely that Mac believed that I Would go along with him because I will be lynched. And no one wants to be lynched. I think he saw it as an opportunity to lynch a power role.

[Macavenger]

We can't lynch Dasquian with just you, me, and Guardian, and I wouldn't help lynch him anyway, because my read on him is pretty town for the moment.

Assuming I'm scum is also not a productive assumption to make at the moment. I'm trying to pull out as much information as I can to give us the best chance at lynching correctly.

[Guardian]

yeah, except that mac being around to be a decision make is pro-town, imo...

scum would lurk out your lynch, not try some ridiculous gambit to lynch a person they know will show up power and then theyll be lynched the next day.

scum NK power roles, not lynch them.

Near, mac is at least average; hes not super likely scum.

coron should die. please near. for the puppies

[Guardian]

lynch coron so I can sleep plz?

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[Macavenger]

Near, mac is at least average; hes not super likely scum.

Interesting turnaround from a couple pages ago, when you said you were willing to hammer me. Is me being here to make a decision that strong a pro-town tell?

[Near]

Mac, do you think i am a scum?
what do you think about my claiming vanilla? wouldn't a scum at least claim a doctor?
from 0 to 100, how scummy am i to you?

[Guardian]

fluidity in one's opinions is beneficial in mafia for making correct choices, if not for "appearing pro-town".

i have conflicting views on you.

you being here seems like a town move -- scum would lurk out the lynch.

also your phraseology like 'why did i do this' seem like a town distressed at the burden of having to make a good choice

so vote coron?

[Near]

convince me why u guys think coron is a scum. i will take the next 5 minutes re-reading coron's claim and the following responses regarding it.