Dynamite Stick Mafia! GAME OVER

[kuribo]

It seems I'm all alone on the elvis_knits wagon. If nobody else is willing to join me, I'd likely move to Sarc or Yos, but I'd take some time to figure out which.

I interpret that as "No one is listening to my accusations, but if you guys are willing to kill someone, I'd be perfectly willing to help."

Kuribo, I notice you are not voting.

Why?

Because I don't have a clear opinion on who the scum might be?

[Flameaxe]

Yeah...totally haven't paid any attention to this game like I should have been...I'll reread when I can (probably tomorrow after my edit-session for film).

[elvis_knits]

I'm also attacking you for your "three scum" slip.

We've been over this too many times...

I'm starting to wonder if certain people just keep bringing this up because they know there are actually 4 scum, and they want an excuse to keep saying "3 scum" because they don't want the town to notice that we're very likely in lynch or lose tommorow. Which is not necessarally directed at you, more at CES and Elvis since they've been beating this drum a lot more then you have, but it's making me wonder.

Actually, I never really cared about this supposed slip. It's only a slip if there's 3 scum in the game and I don't really see that as possible. My biggest reason for voting you was the way you were trying to get CES to unvote you by saying he's "a better player than that."

I am noticing Sarcastro made similar statements

Skruffs, stop acting foolish.

So I support Sarcastro exploding too.

And Kuribo... so you're not going to vote because you aren't clear who is scum?? Do you have any comments about who might get blown up today??

[Surye]

It seems I'm all alone on the elvis_knits wagon. If nobody else is willing to join me, I'd likely move to Sarc or Yos, but I'd take some time to figure out which.

I interpret that as "No one is listening to my accusations, but if you guys are willing to kill someone, I'd be perfectly willing to help."

Kuribo, I notice you are not voting.

Why?

Because I don't have a clear opinion on who the scum might be?

With a deadline looming, are you suggesting a nolynch? If not, who do you propose dies?

[Erg0]

Reaching much?

[Surye]

Reaching much?

Who, me?

[elvis_knits]

I feel like Surye is panicking.

[PokerFace]

I really don't understand the case against Sarcastro... Hell, I don't understand how I have the most votes, based on one sparse comment. But Sarcastro even more so.

The case on Sarcastro is as follows:

He has not voted or posted a valid case on any player the entire game, he has only said that certain players are scum without giving clear reasons why. No real content posted on why said player is scum so pretty much active lurking. He is not posting as I would suspect a town Sarcastro would post (meta info/read Bad idea Mafia II). His responce to said accusations have pretty much been a non-defence as he continued to point fingers at other people.

Links to relevant posts were this case is described.
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 24#1025324
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 32#1025332
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 80#1030480
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 74#1030574
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 35#1031335
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 48#1031548
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 39#1032039

He is yet to vote or give a case on someone since his last post. I do supported a Sarcastro & Surye explosion. So you can pretty much consider me voting for either one. 4 votes on surye 2 on sarcastro.

Unvote, Vote: Sarcastro

now they each have 3 apiece tied with Yosarian2. What do you think of the case on sarcastro now Surye?

I am considering striking a light just in case. If they really are both scum that could be needed.

[Surye]

I feel like Surye is panicking.

How? I simply questioned a "I don't vote because I'm not 100%" with a deadline looming.

Or do you mean me striking a light?

Either way that is pretty silly, if anyone is panicking, it's Yos.

[Surye]

I feel like Surye is panicking.

How? I simply questioned a "I don't vote because I'm not 100%" with a deadline looming.

Or do you mean me striking a light?

Either way that is pretty silly, if anyone is panicking, it's Yos.

[Erg0]

Reaching much?

Who, me?

Yes, you. Implying that kuribo was suggesting a no-lynch was a massive leap, and looks like a desperate attempt to distract from your own wagon.

[Surye]

EBWOP: Doh, stupid browser, please delete, thanks.

[kuribo]

It seems I'm all alone on the elvis_knits wagon. If nobody else is willing to join me, I'd likely move to Sarc or Yos, but I'd take some time to figure out which.

I interpret that as "No one is listening to my accusations, but if you guys are willing to kill someone, I'd be perfectly willing to help."

Kuribo, I notice you are not voting.

Why?

Because I don't have a clear opinion on who the scum might be?

With a deadline looming, are you suggesting a nolynch? If not, who do you propose dies?

Did I say that?

[kuribo]

EBWOP, thanks for making the path a bit clearer.

Vote: Surye

[kuribo]

I am considering striking a light just in case. If they really are both scum that could be needed.

You do know that an explosion ends the day, right? You striking a light to get "both" scum doesn't help us in the least.

[Yosarian2]

Uh....care to explain that, kuribo?

[NabakovNabakov]

I don't get where all this new hate on Surye is coming from. It's nearing deadline, he was top of the vote count, time to strike a light. If he's serious about dynamiting, he's a dead man. If he's bluffing, any responsible townie in the game will ensure that he's a dead man. There's certainly no reason to add votes to his wagon or critisize his play; he's been dead as of the bottom of last page. Kuribo's vote is pure cop out, equivalent to not voting with the added feature that it might make some of the less perceptive townies stop pressuring him.

*Thanks Adel from beyond the grave for instituting a voting system in which scum would be unsure of where to put their vote*

Also, tactical note: any player, striken or no, can immediately dynamite a player with a struck light.

[PokerFace]

I am considering striking a light just in case. If they really are both scum that could be needed.

You do know that an explosion ends the day, right? You striking a light to get "both" scum doesn't help us in the least.

Well yes I couldn't blow them both up you're right. They were both still at 3 votes back then so I was considering/thinking out loud about striking and maybe taking out sarcastro, but since it is now...

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Current Vote Count of Day 4:

Surye - 4(pickemgenius, Skitzer, Ergo, Kuribo)
Sarcastro - 3(Quagmire, NabNab, PokerFace)
Yosarian2 - 3(CEScum, Claus, Elvis)
Cogito Ergo Scum - 1(Yosarian2)
Skitzer - 1(Surye)
Erg0 - 1(Elmo)

Not Voting - 3(Flameaxe, Marmalade, Sarcastro)

16 people alive so its 9 votes needed
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Surye with most votes that probably wouldn't be right or necessary for me.

also

@Yosarian2:

Would you be willing to strike a light and blow up Surye? I still ain't sold on you being scum but you two are the ones with the highest number of votes right now.

Yosarian2 said he didn't mind a surye explosion yet did not directly say he would do it and I would also like the direct the same question

@Sarcastro

[NabakovNabakov]

I think some people are missing this

Tactical note: any player, striken or no, can immediately dynamite a player with a struck light.

Any player can kill Surye, Claus, or Pickem right now or at any time. No striking, no waiting.

I really can't think of any further need for players to strike lights unless voting patterns should change significantly enough to move Surye out of the top spots.

[Yosarian2]

Well, I'm not going to do anything just because I've got 3 votes on me, when two are CES and Elvis, probably the two scummiest people in the game. The point of this voting system wasn't to let scum easily manipulate the town, was it?

That being said, Surye was already talking about blowing me up. If he is going to blow someone up, I'd rather he blow someone else up other then me, since that improves the odds from my point of view. But if it starts to look like he's a scum who just struck a light in order to bluff the town, then sure, I'd blow him up.

[Yosarian2]

Anyway, my vote dosn't seem to be doing much good on CES at the moment, especally since he's on vacation.

unvote

vote:sarcastro

This looks interesting, let's see where this goes...

[PokerFace]

Yes NabNab that is pretty much why I am not doing it.

[Surye]

Reaching much?

Who, me?

Yes, you. Implying that kuribo was suggesting a no-lynch was a massive leap, and looks like a desperate attempt to distract from your own wagon.

Eh, we've had a whole lot of game going on, and if he doesn't have enough to at least play a vote this late in the day, he's equivalently playing a nolynch. How is that a stretch, he's just trying to be passive, and I was curious why.

[Elmo]

Unvote

,

vote Sarcastro

? He's not being as.. well, sarcastric, as usual, so this is my least disliked deadline vote atm.

Sarcastro - 5 (Quagmire, NabNab, PokerFace, Yosarian2, Elmo)
Surye - 4 (pickemgenius, Skitzer, Ergo, Kuribo)
Yosarian2 - 3 (CEScum, Claus, Elvis)
Skitzer - 1 (Surye)

Not Voting - 3 (Flameaxe, Marmalade, Sarcastro)

16 people alive so its 9 votes needed

[pickemgenius]

elmo is now a good target.