Newbie 594: (Game Over!)

silence · Post Post #150 (ISO) » Mon Apr 28, 2008 5:31 pm

gorillaman wrote:Defensive again, you see. Although, I just did some of the hated metaing and that could be a bit of a town tell for you - you seem more comfortable as scum.

Can you post some links to what you think are most relevant games for this?

gorillaman · Post Post #151 (ISO) » Tue Apr 29, 2008 12:11 am

Two town and two mafia would be the minimum for a decent comparison, which is what he's got, so the relevant ones are all of them.

bird1111 · Post Post #152 (ISO) » Tue Apr 29, 2008 1:17 am

Vote Count:
Rickeon (2): Zu_faul, Atticus
BlackWolf (1): Battousai
Battousai (1): split9102

Not voting (5): silence, Rickeon, BlackWolf, gorillaman, Nocmen

With 9 alive it is 5 to lynch.

Atticus · Post Post #153 (ISO) » Tue Apr 29, 2008 11:38 am

Will read later. Am here.

Battousai · Post Post #154 (ISO) » Wed Apr 30, 2008 4:33 am

Rickeon still hasn't posted in a while, so....

UNVOTE

VOTE: RICKEON

L-2 for Rickeon

Nocmen · Post Post #155 (ISO) » Wed Apr 30, 2008 8:06 am

Is that true? Hmm...very much so.

Lets take the risk.

Vote: Rickeon

gorillaman · Post Post #156 (ISO) » Wed Apr 30, 2008 10:59 am

Interesting.

BlackWolf · Post Post #157 (ISO) » Wed Apr 30, 2008 1:03 pm

Just posting to point out that L-1, so I will NOT be voting for him.
And please, nobody else vote before he gets on.

Nocmen · Post Post #158 (ISO) » Wed Apr 30, 2008 3:26 pm

BlackWolf wrote:Just posting to point out that L-1, so I will NOT be voting for him.
And please, nobody else vote before he gets on.

Thank you for pointing out what the action the scum need to take here.

bird1111 · Post Post #159 (ISO) » Thu May 01, 2008 8:22 am

Zu_faul, split9102, and Rickeon prodded.

silence · Post Post #160 (ISO) » Thu May 01, 2008 11:37 am

Nocmen wrote: Thank you for pointing out what the action the scum need to take here.

I don't think he pointed out anything not obvious.

Atticus · Post Post #161 (ISO) » Thu May 01, 2008 11:48 am

I think we need to stop pointing out the obvious.

*D'oh!*

zu_Faul · Post Post #162 (ISO) » Fri May 02, 2008 12:58 am

unvote, vote gorillaman

http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... &start=125
Other than in post 2 he hasn't done any accusing. He is not scumhunting. Just sitting on the sideline watching how the townies lynch each other.

Battousai · Post Post #163 (ISO) » Fri May 02, 2008 8:07 am

FOS: gorillaman

Zu, you got me into looking at gorillaman more closely and I compared it to a previous game where he was the cop. In that game he was considerably more vocal than he has been in this game. I find that suspicious that he isn't doing a lot of scumhunting.

BlackWolf · Post Post #164 (ISO) » Fri May 02, 2008 11:37 am

That is actually really unreliable.
It's completely possible he acts differently as cop then as town, now isn't it?

Atticus · Post Post #165 (ISO) » Fri May 02, 2008 3:09 pm

Yeah, I actually thought that. Cop should be doing everything he can to be finding a good person to investigate. As town, the WiKi suggests that we all just be good, quiet, puppies. I consider this bad advice, but hey, who knows who takes it?

gorillaman · Post Post #166 (ISO) » Sat May 03, 2008 12:15 am

Well I would hope I wouldn't act differently as cop and town.

Pretty simple set of reasons why my play this game has differed from my first one. I'm playing this game a lot more casually, because one of the dozens of mistakes I thought I made in that game was to overthink the early stages and underthink the later ones. So I'm pacing myself. You'll also notice a lot more happened and sooner in newb495, which of course prompted more serious discussion. I think it's fair to say that everyone's posting was, on average, more aggressive. Then there are eight people rather than six for me to try and figure out, which slows me down. And finally, the big one - employment. Wasn't before, am now.

Nocmen · Post Post #167 (ISO) » Sat May 03, 2008 4:01 am

I don't think we should be quiet, and really I have no problem what pace we go on, as long as we put thought into our actions as well as our votes. I don't like having different styles though for being a power role or not, as that really can hurt the town by saying things and making such things evident in this game.

Battousai · Post Post #168 (ISO) » Sat May 03, 2008 4:19 am

Well, if you act differently as cop and town, it makes it easier for scum to NK you then doesn't it? Its the same for acting differently as town and as scum.

That is actually really unreliable.
It's completely possible he acts differently as cop then as town, now isn't it?

That's why I still have my vote on Rickeon and not him.

We really need rickeon to post in this game asap. The longer he's MIA and at L-1, the more tempting and easier it gets for scum to hammer, if he's not scum.

Nocmen · Post Post #169 (ISO) » Sat May 03, 2008 4:44 am

Well, I have no problem with him being a l-1. I want to hear what he says when he is really under the pressure of a hammer. If someone is to lynch him now, they better have damn good reasons for it.

BlackWolf · Post Post #170 (ISO) » Sat May 03, 2008 6:10 am

If the scum is stupid enough to hammer now, let 'em.
It'll only mean we know who at least one of the scum are.

Battousai wrote:Well, if you act differently as cop and town, it makes it easier for scum to NK you then doesn't it? Its the same for acting differently as town and as scum.

Well, that's only if they know your meta-game.
I think it'd be perfectly normal for, say, a Doc to not act as aggresively as usual, to draw less attention to himself, or a Cop for the same reason.

Nocmen · Post Post #171 (ISO) » Sat May 03, 2008 2:19 pm

BlackWolf wrote:If the scum is stupid enough to hammer now, let 'em.
It'll only mean we know who at least one of the scum are.

Battousai wrote:Well, if you act differently as cop and town, it makes it easier for scum to NK you then doesn't it? Its the same for acting differently as town and as scum.
Well, that's only if they know your meta-game.
I think it'd be perfectly normal for, say, a Doc to not act as aggresively as usual, to draw less attention to himself, or a Cop for the same reason.

But eliminating one of the scum is still a very nice thing to know, that's half of our victory condition.

Atticus · Post Post #172 (ISO) » Sat May 03, 2008 2:30 pm

Unvote

Don't think it is right to place an L-1 on his replacement. Sorry, I just don't think my reasons for voting him are good enough to keep it on there with him being this long gone.

gorillaman · Post Post #173 (ISO) » Sun May 04, 2008 2:53 am

Of course we don't know if he's been picking up his prods.

zu_Faul · Post Post #174 (ISO) » Sun May 04, 2008 3:16 am

I don't know whether all of you missed that he hasn't been on L-1 for some time. If you did I think it is possible that some of you tried to warn your scum partner not to lynch him and make themselves seem very scummy. If you did not miss it I don't know what you wanted to accomplish.

FOS: Battousai, Nocmen, Atticus