Mafia 78: Meta Breaking Mafia 1 - Game over!

[Kison]

Ok, I took the liberty of rereading from page 13 on. A couple of things of interest :

Ok, so I don't like Coolbot, Adel, or ABR. However, given claims and relationships, I think ABR's the most likely town. Adel and Coolbot are both almost definitely scum, but the amount of buddying Coobot's done to Adel is VERY suspicious.

I will hammer Coolbot if there are no objections besides those from Coolbot and Adel.

The certainty here is pretty frightening. What "relationships" made you more certain that ABR was Town? I can understand his RB claim, but...

Vote: shaft.ed

Ok, so Coolbot was a townie who attached himself to scum. Makes sense. Given that ABR and Adel were two of the most active players here, I'd like to reccomend rereads all around. There should be some good info in them thar hills.

Why did you tack your vote onto Shaft.ed?

vote pick

This really threw me off at the time. Seems to be a vote based on annoyance rather than actual suspicion. I don't like the legitimization that follows : insulting people = scum? I've seen my fair share of insulting Townies.

vote: Rosso Carne

Is this lurker pressure or what?

Also, I encourage everyone to take a look at Adel's behavior surrounding Surye's bandwagon. She builds it up, and quickly tears it apart when she realizes just how close he is to being lynched. Ectomancer follows her lead.

Unvote

Vote : Xtoxm

What're your thoughts regarding Day One?

[shaft.ed]

My vote on Rosso was mostly meta. I read his games and noticed a slight trending behavior that differentiated town and scum.

The Gorrad thing is interesting as well.

Why of all of those points is Xtoxm the one that garners the vote?

[Xtoxm]

Ok, well, i'm an FBI agent and Rosso is not SK.

Your choice if you believe me or not.

[Kison]

I've sadly found Gorrad scummy in almost every game I've played with him. I'm less certain of the scummy vibes he sends me. That does not excuse anything - but I'd like an answer from him before I decide whether or not he's vote worthy.

Why Xtoxm - His vote on PEG was tacked on after a debate over another game. Ok. Wonderful. He later legitimizes it by saying that that :

1) "I find that insulting people tends to come from scum." ->

Back that up. I do not agree with this at all.

2) "And he's contributing nothing, I don't care if he says he never does, it's not being helpful, he should die." ->

Coming from the guy who implies rejection towards PEG waiting for his replacement analysis.

im waiting on xtoxm for his replacement analysis.

Who said I was giving one?

So yeah. I find his vote to be pretty hypocritical and made more out of frustration than genuine suspicion. Maybe this will encourage him to give us his thoughts on yesterday's events, even if only in part.

[Kison]

Ok, well, i'm an FBI agent and Rosso is not SK.

Your choice if you believe me or not.

Dear jesus christ almighty, Xtoxm please tell me you're shitting me.

[Xtoxm]

Ok, well, i'm an FBI agent and Rosso is not SK.

Your choice if you believe me or not.

Dear jesus christ almighty, Xtoxm please tell me you're shitting me.

I am not.

[Kison]

Why are you roleclaiming with three votes on you with 12 players in the game? It's 7 to lynch. Why not just address some of the concerns instead?

[Xtoxm]

If i'm lynched the SK will take out Rosso, if i'm not he'll take me, I imagine.

[Xtoxm]

Why are you roleclaiming with three votes on you with 12 players in the game? It's 7 to lynch. Why not just address some of the concerns instead?

Well I was a bandwagon forming on me. And I counted 5 votes.

[Kison]

Yeah, he'll take you because you roleclaimed!!!

So again why DID you roleclaim?

Unvote

Vote : Gorrad

ahadjlskad;skadlska

[Xtoxm]

L-2 = claim

(usually)

[Elias_the_thief]

L-2 = claim

(usually)

you had 3 votes...

[Elias_the_thief]

Ok, I took the liberty of rereading from page 13 on. A couple of things of interest :

Ok, so I don't like Coolbot, Adel, or ABR. However, given claims and relationships, I think ABR's the most likely town. Adel and Coolbot are both almost definitely scum, but the amount of buddying Coobot's

Yeah, this is very interesting. I'd like an explanation as well, as to what "relationships" made ABR seem so town.

[Guardian]

Vote Count #25

Xtoxm[2] (elias_the_thief, shaft.ed)
pickemgenius[1] (Xtoxm)
Elias_the_thief[1] (Tarhalindur)
Gorrad[1] (Kison)


Not Voting[7]: (Surye, the silent speaker, Rosso Carne, pickemgenius, farside22, Machiavellian-Mafia, Gorrad)

[shaft.ed]

Ok, well, i'm an FBI agent and Rosso is not SK.

Your choice if you believe me or not.

Yay for premature claiming, did you feel the need to outdue Albert's D1 claim?

[shaft.ed]

oh and

unvote

[Kison]

Any reason you didn't revert back to Rosso Carne?

[shaft.ed]

Any reason you didn't revert back to Rosso Carne?

Well I believe Xtoxm so that would indicate he's not the SK so less likely to be scum than anyone else in the game.

I'm mulling over Gorrad and trying to get up the motivation to reread the D1 bandwagons, but I'm keeping Rosso on the back burner for now.

[Xtoxm]

Don't like Elias's reaction around my claim, definatley looks like scum to me.

Happy to lynch either of PEG and Elias - Anyone else approve?

[Elias_the_thief]

Explain to me why.

[Elias_the_thief]

(you dont like the reaction. I already know you have no reasons for wanting my lynch)

[Surye]

Wow, well, I guess there's no reason to doubt the claim yet, but

IGMEOY

.

I think Rosso is the weakest player right now, will re-read to see if that translates to the scummiest.

[shaft.ed]

vote: Surye

[Surye]

vote: Surye

lol

[shaft.ed]

Sorry, but that last post felt very contrived. I'll get back to you after I read for Adel interactions.