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[Gamma Emerald]

Stop FL, you have 2 votes get it together.

This is scummy, and a discredit to the IC.

Maxous/Profii/RCE.

Xx is obv town. Quit being lazy with that one.

Nero is clearly being setup as a mislynch.

Sephiroth is literally near mechanically cleared as town due to the wagon yesterday, plus reasons I can bring up tomorrow. (Assumingly others will tomorrow too, talk about this more later).

This is fair point, I have a tell, albeit dated, that scum need to discredit confirmed town who are on track, so it more likely comes from them when it happens.

[Gamma Emerald]

I have never scum read Profii like this ever. We generally work together really well when we’re both town, and he actively tries to show me that. I’m literally conf town, and I’m getting nothing.

I’ve also been subtly pushing I thought he was scum for a bit.

He’s also actively trying to tear Saudade down to weaken me.

This is ScumProfii.

Wagon analysis, let’s call it Wagonomics, points hard to Profii as well.

[Gamma Emerald]

To be fair, I am actually starting to lean less on Maxous.

VOTE: Profii

I truly think this is scum, though.

This I’m considering following on.

[Gamma Emerald]

I'm also a Joat, last night I disloyal vigged Maxous. He's not dead so there's my readflip from day 1 to day 2.

Why don’t you “disloyal vig” me tonight

[Garmr]

VOTE: profii

[RCEnigma]

Smells like a scum Gambit, I'll call it.

[profii]

FL

If RCE has an inno on Maxous, that means me and Maxous weren't scum theatre'ing - that means, I was legit trying to get someone to help me see the town in Nero.

with me?

[Gamma Emerald]

I'm also a Joat, last night I disloyal vigged Maxous. He's not dead so there's my readflip from day 1 to day 2.

Actually thinking about it my role has about the same utility, so I’m CCing this.
I am a Town Ascetic Disloyal Ninja Babysitter. So I have ability to target a player at night, and if I die and they are scum they die too. So I’m kinda like a disloyal bomb. This role is why I was upset at the quickhammer, as I wanted to crumb a target for last night.
Now why does the mod include a one shot disloyal vig with a role that kinda does the same thing but with more intrigue (the role has to die to take effect) and more effectiveness (Ascetic means I cannot be roleblocked). The simple answer? He didn’t.
VOTE: RCEnigma

[RCEnigma]

[RCEnigma]

Then from your perspective it's more likely scum has a roleblocker......what would be the point in being ascetic then.

[profii]

what does ninja and ascetic do... wouldnt any attempt to track/watch/motion detect/whatever fail on just either 1 of those modifiers, why have both

[RCEnigma]

You have zero effectiveness if you claimed this as town. So there's that.

[Performer]

I'm also a Joat, last night I disloyal vigged Maxous. He's not dead so there's my readflip from day 1 to day 2.

Actually thinking about it my role has about the same utility, so I’m CCing this.
I am a Town Ascetic Disloyal Ninja Babysitter. So I have ability to target a player at night, and if I die and they are scum they die too. So I’m kinda like a disloyal bomb. This role is why I was upset at the quickhammer, as I wanted to crumb a target for last night.
Now why does the mod include a one shot disloyal vig with a role that kinda does the same thing but with more intrigue (the role has to die to take effect) and more effectiveness (Ascetic means I cannot be roleblocked). The simple answer? He didn’t.
VOTE: RCEnigma

On first impression to hearing this claim, I must reply with the below:

This G A I M sure is M E S S E D U P.

[RCEnigma]

I have three abilities, a disloyal vig, a cop check which I'll be using, and an ability I'd rather not specify yet if it can be helped.

[Performer]

I have three abilities, a disloyal vig, a cop check which I'll be using, and an ability I'd rather not specify yet if it can be helped.

I don't think your outing of the cop ability of your JOAT abilities, was necessary here.

This G A I M is M E S S ED UP .

[Gamma Emerald]

what does ninja and ascetic do... wouldnt any attempt to track/watch/motion detect/whatever fail on just either 1 of those modifiers, why have both

Ascetic prevents docs/rbs from interfering
Ninja prevents watcher/voyeur from seeing me

And I’d agree claiming would ruin my utility but in this scenario it’s wise, since I wasn’t getting NKed anytime soon and I felt the need to CC.

[Flavor Leaf]

FL

If RCE has an inno on Maxous, that means me and Maxous weren't scum theatre'ing - that means, I was legit trying to get someone to help me see the town in Nero.

with me?

:/ i moved onto you before I had the Maxous inno outed, and stayed they were separate from each other.

[RCEnigma]

I have three abilities, a disloyal vig, a cop check which I'll be using, and an ability I'd rather not specify yet if it can be helped.

I don't think your outing of the cop ability of your JOAT abilities, was necessary here.

This G A I M is M E S S ED UP .

They can't RB both of us....I think. Plus I've got an ace.

Moreso I'm pointing out that Gammas assumption isn't correct since I'm essentially an invest with a chance to kill on guilty.

[Flavor Leaf]

Let’s go Profii today. Gamma, target RCE tonight I think is a solid plan.

If you guys live, lynch RCE tomorrow. This also makes it so our other PRs get another action.

I have a chance at living, but it’s okay if I die. I don’t have any actions. Protect me still people, haha.


Gamma/RCE can be figured out, but I’m definitely on Gamma’s side. Zero reason for Gamma to try and counterclaim here.

[profii]

Let’s go Profii today. Gamma, target RCE tonight I think is a solid plan.

If you guys live, lynch RCE tomorrow. This also makes it so our other PRs get another action.

I have a chance at living, but it’s okay if I die. I don’t have any actions. Protect me still people, haha.


Gamma/RCE can be figured out, but I’m definitely on Gamma’s side. Zero reason for Gamma to try and counterclaim here.

cant believe me using your bread crumb when i thought dva was a serial killer wasnt the signal of me trying to work with you

[Gamma Emerald]

Okay, I’m still skeptical but I can see your utility as unique now.
VOTE: profii

[Performer]

I'm also a Joat, last night I disloyal vigged Maxous. He's not dead so there's my readflip from day 1 to day 2.

Actually thinking about it my role has about the same utility, so I’m CCing this.
I am a Town Ascetic Disloyal Ninja Babysitter. So I have ability to target a player at night, and if I die and they are scum they die too. So I’m kinda like a disloyal bomb. This role is why I was upset at the quickhammer, as I wanted to crumb a target for last night.
Now why does the mod include a one shot disloyal vig with a role that kinda does the same thing but with more intrigue (the role has to die to take effect) and more effectiveness (Ascetic means I cannot be roleblocked). The simple answer? He didn’t.
VOTE: RCEnigma

I followed RCE's scum game in the newbie with FL, and your scum game with mariar (fake claimed parity cop with you fake claiming some weird bus driver role). So I wouldn't put it above rce or ge to be fake claiming....

At the moment , I don't even understand how exactly your role works or if it even makes sense.
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what does ninja and ascetic do... wouldnt any attempt to track/watch/motion detect/whatever fail on just either 1 of those modifiers, why have both

As far as I know, ninja means anyone checking their actions , should get no result.
Regarding ascetic, anyone targeting them with non-kill ability, will be ineffective. Certain roles targeting an ascetic don't even get a message back. Anyway, that's more game mechanics than anything .

[Flavor Leaf]

If Gamma is scum, he’ll live for multiple days. TownGamma doesn’t live for more than a few more days.

[Flavor Leaf]

Because we just can lynch within Gamma’s targets.

[Gamma Emerald]

Because we just can lynch within Gamma’s targets.

Explain?