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Post Post #700 (ISO) » Sat May 17, 2008 2:50 pm

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Actually that's a good point Elias. Surye Coolbot was wagoned for call for a claim from you AFTER you wagon was over. How could his wagon have caused the demise of yours?
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Post Post #701 (ISO) » Sat May 17, 2008 2:54 pm

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Vote Count #28


Surye[4] (shaft.ed, elias_the_thief, Gorrad, Tarhalindur)
Gorrad[2] (Kison, Xtoxm)
pickemgenius[1] (Machiavellian-Mafia)


Not Voting[5]: (Surye, the silent speaker, Rosso Carne, pickemgenius, farside22)
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Post Post #702 (ISO) » Sat May 17, 2008 6:50 pm

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I'm going on V/LA for a bit; I've asked Adel to watch over the game if my absence becomes extended.

She will be an impartial mod, a mod who has been an excellent mod in the past; do not suppose that she is biased in any way because she is a former player.
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Post Post #703 (ISO) » Sat May 17, 2008 8:57 pm

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Guardian in the rules wrote:[11] If you have a night choice to make, it is due by the posted deadline. I will not wait for you. If you do not submit a choice to me, I’ll make it for you and you won’t like it.
To help prevent the perception of bias while I am the mod, this rule now states:


[11] If you have a night choice to make, it is due by the posted deadline. I will not wait for you. If you do not submit a choice to me, sorry, you take no action for that night.



I'll change the wording in the first post as soon as the admins activate my my moderator permissives.
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Post Post #704 (ISO) » Sat May 17, 2008 11:51 pm

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After rereading, I find Rosso's play to be just as bad as PEG's. He always seemed to push for certain players' lynches without backing them up with votes. FOS: Rosso

I also revisited the derailment of the Surye wagon, and I find some validity in the Adel/Surye connection. Adel first derails that wagon by subtly complying with ABR's request of "we should all lower our guns", then immediately switches to me for the misrepresented reason of "putting him at L-1" when my vote was L-2. After that Adel fakes re-voting Surye, as if to paint the picture he is trying to undo the derailment. Then the CoolBot wagon gained strength with Adel hopping onto that as well, and Adel rarely if ever mentioned Surye again.

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Unvote, Vote: Surye
. I believe that's L-2.
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Post Post #705 (ISO) » Sat May 17, 2008 11:52 pm

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EBWOP:
FOS: Rosso
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Post Post #706 (ISO) » Sun May 18, 2008 11:42 am

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Remember Rosso ain't the SK.
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Post Post #707 (ISO) » Sun May 18, 2008 6:17 pm

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there is no logic to the surye wagon.

*skips*


la di da.

*stops*

this wagon will sure be helpful though, can't wait for people to start hopping off soon... that'll be when it gets interesting.


*starts skiping again*

la di da.
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Post Post #708 (ISO) » Mon May 19, 2008 7:18 am

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Would support lynches of Gorrad, Elias, Tar. Just checked Tar, he's blatantly lurking, and just bandwagoning Surye now.
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Post Post #709 (ISO) » Mon May 19, 2008 7:19 am

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What did Elias do again?
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Post Post #710 (ISO) » Mon May 19, 2008 7:20 am

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Look like scum in my opinion.
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Post Post #711 (ISO) » Mon May 19, 2008 8:23 am

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Not really too anxious to move my vote. I would happily move to Tar. I do need to reread, however.
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Post Post #712 (ISO) » Mon May 19, 2008 8:50 am

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shaft.ed wrote:What did Elias do again?
Good question. I "was insulting". Having played with me, I'm sure you know how much that means :roll:

Yeah, PEG I showed some pretty good logic for the surye wagon. The only thing you posted against it is a vague meta on Adel which you havent backed up, despite the fact that I asked for game numbers. So yeah...
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Post Post #713 (ISO) » Mon May 19, 2008 11:54 am

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That's a factor, yes, but it's not the only thing.
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Post Post #714 (ISO) » Mon May 19, 2008 3:28 pm

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Elias_the_thief wrote:
Yeah, PEG I showed some pretty good logic for the surye wagon. The only thing you posted against it is a vague meta on Adel which you havent backed up, despite the fact that I asked for game numbers. So yeah...

ive only been scum with Adel one game. 454.

there is no logic/evidene for the surye wagon.


i still can't wait for the thing to disipate so i can get a cheap laugh.

and find obv scum.
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Post Post #715 (ISO) » Mon May 19, 2008 4:28 pm

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Pickem:

its a game of mafia. asking for hard evidence on every day 2 wagon is ridiculous. Logic theres plenty of. Adel started this wagon, and jumped off when it got serious. The reason for jumping off was obviously contrived as it was a delayed reaction to a joke post. In fact, she had posted I think twice before she responded to the joke post and jumped off. Then Adel came up as scum. Does that not read as a classic distance wagon gone wrong?

And I highly doubt that one game is enough to get any reliable meta on her. I mean, she changes basically every game, and you cant even show that the play she exhibited in that game is any sort of trend as opposed to something she did once.

xtoxm wrote:That's a factor, yes, but it's not the only thing.
Translation: My only given reason for suspecting him has fallen but I dont want to admit it so I will now make references to my own secret reasons which you cant know. At least until I think of them.
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Post Post #716 (ISO) » Mon May 19, 2008 10:49 pm

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It has not fallen out, it stands.

And you just generally look scummy to me.
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Post Post #717 (ISO) » Tue May 20, 2008 5:07 am

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Xtoxm wrote:It has not fallen out, it stands.

And you just generally look scummy to me.
That's the strongest case I've ever seen against someone [/sarcasm]

Xtoxm have you played with Elias before? If so what is some scummy relative to his usual play style?
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Post Post #718 (ISO) » Tue May 20, 2008 6:45 am

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Well i've played him him as town once and I don't recall him acting at all like this.
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Post Post #719 (ISO) » Tue May 20, 2008 8:27 am

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Define "like this".
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Post Post #720 (ISO) » Tue May 20, 2008 8:28 am

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And also, what game. I'm pretty sure I was NKed night one in the game i was in with you and you never got to see the full extent of my playstyle anyhow.
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Post Post #721 (ISO) » Tue May 20, 2008 8:31 am

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Yeh, I was vig and I NKed you but I found you scummy for different reasons.
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Post Post #722 (ISO) » Tue May 20, 2008 8:32 am

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Mini 559.
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Post Post #723 (ISO) » Tue May 20, 2008 8:59 am

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Xtoxm wrote:It has not fallen out, it stands.
You're silly. Try reading the links to games I posted where I've shown that being insulting is an integral part of my play as town and scum, making it a null tell when applied to me and completely useless.

Ah, now you mention that you vigged me when I was town. We should obviously bow down to your meta because you clearly have a good grasp of how I play.
Xtoxm wrote:And you just generally look scummy to me.
Why. Stop bullshitting and tell me what it is about my play that you find scummy.
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Post Post #724 (ISO) » Tue May 20, 2008 9:27 am

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Xtoxm wrote:Yeh, I was vig and I NKed you but I found you scummy for different reasons.
Forgive me if this statement does not instill confidence in your judgement regarding Elias.

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