Open 71 - Jester Mafia (FINISHED!!!) before 586

[Gorrad]

Vote Count:

Sethaniel(3): Grimmy, Surye, Mellowed Man
Celebloki(1): ChaosOmega

Not Voting(3): Sethaniel, Inquisitor JL, Celebloki

[Gorrad]

Sir Tornado replaces Inquisitor JL

[Sethaniel]

@Surye: How about by quoting the post where I say this supposed lynch plan?

Grimmy is the only one I can remember with a lynch plan. He's the one who said

I figure that this group has been spllit up into three sets of two.
If one is guilty, then the other would probably be guilty too.
Seth & Surye
Celebloki & JL
CO & Mellow.

So if one of any of therse pairs gets lynched and found guilty, my vote will IMMEDIATELY be placed for the other.
And the opposite is true. If one is innocent, then the other is off the hook in my eyes.

[Grimmy]

to further add to my lynch plan,

FOS: Mellowman

So now everyone knows where my votes will be on the next two days.

Grimmy
putting it out there

[Surye]

@Surye: How about by quoting the post where I say this supposed lynch plan?

Grimmy is the only one I can remember with a lynch plan. He's the one who said

I figure that this group has been spllit up into three sets of two.
If one is guilty, then the other would probably be guilty too.
Seth & Surye
Celebloki & JL
CO & Mellow.

So if one of any of therse pairs gets lynched and found guilty, my vote will IMMEDIATELY be placed for the other.
And the opposite is true. If one is innocent, then the other is off the hook in my eyes.

Sorry, it seems I got confused while skimming I guess.

Unvote

Grimmy, at LYOL, why would you setup policy lynches?

[Grimmy]

@Surye: How about by quoting the post where I say this supposed lynch plan?

Grimmy is the only one I can remember with a lynch plan. He's the one who said

I figure that this group has been spllit up into three sets of two.
If one is guilty, then the other would probably be guilty too.
Seth & Surye
Celebloki & JL
CO & Mellow.

So if one of any of therse pairs gets lynched and found guilty, my vote will IMMEDIATELY be placed for the other.
And the opposite is true. If one is innocent, then the other is off the hook in my eyes.

Sorry, it seems I got confused while skimming I guess.

Unvote

Grimmy, at LYOL, why would you setup policy lynches?

easiest answer: I saw some trends and figured this would be the best way to describe what I was thinking to the rest of you.

[Mellowed Man]

Well in this case, surye, you should feel safer if Seth comes up as town, because that would kill my theory of the two of you.

I figure that this group has been spllit up into three sets of two.
If one is guilty, then the other would probably be guilty too.
Seth & Surye
Celebloki & JL
CO & Mellow.

So if one of any of therse pairs gets lynched and found guilty, my vote will IMMEDIATELY be placed for the other.
And the opposite is true. If one is innocent, then the other is off the hook in my eyes.

Grimmy
growing three sets of eyes

This is really flawed, btw. I don't even think Sethaniel really has anything to do with Surye. This looks like just a surface conjecture of "these people have similar opinions", that really has no real value at all.

unvote

I'm going to think about this.

Anyways, what happened to you saying that Surye and Seth were connected. Change much? We wanted to apply a little pressure.

to further add to my lynch plan,

FOS: Mellowman

So now everyone knows where my votes will be on the next two days.

Grimmy
putting it out there

Good job. You officially don't explain anything, and expect everyone to follow and vote who you want them to vote. What gives you that power, again?

Vote: Grimmy

[Surye]

So now everyone knows where my votes will be on the next two days.

Only one role in this game can make you so sure you need no more information for DAYS to lynch.

Vote:Grimmy

[Celebloki]

I agree that Grimmy's strategy for voting is awfully unorthodox and not in the towns best interest. However since we are so close to the wire now I will reserve my vote. still

HOS: Grimmy

[Mellowed Man]

I agree that Grimmy's strategy for voting is awfully unorthodox and not in the towns best interest. However since we are so close to the wire now I will reserve my vote. still

HOS: Grimmy

It looks like you are reluctant to vote your scumbuddy. Grimmy devises a lynch plan to lynch Sethaniel and then me, when just a few days ago, he said that Sethaniel and Surye were a pair, and when one of a pair is lynched, it determines whether to lynch the other.

FoS: Celebloki

[Sir Tornado]

Ok, it seems I am replacing into this game.

This has been a very vague game so far with all the replacements. It's difficult to actually analyse each and every character separately. I do want to know exactly why Sethaniel was put on -1 there. And, elaboration by Grimmy about those groups would be nice too.

[Mellowed Man]

Gee thanks for the update.... Read the game again. Now.

[Sir Tornado]

Gee thanks for the update.... Read the game again. Now.

For what? The reason for Sethenel wagon? You'll find, if you read yourself, there wasn't any given. That wagon grew from 0 to 3

without anyone making any serious case against him

[Gorrad]

Vote Count:

Grimmy(2): Mellowed Man, Surye
Sethaniel(1): Grimmy
Celebloki(1): ChaosOmega

Not Voting(3): Sethaniel, Sir Tornado, Celebloki

Reminder: Deadline is 9:39 PM CST on the 25th.

[Grimmy]

quick clarification for Mellow.

If Seth is found guilty, then My next day vote WILL be for surye.

If Seth is found innocent, I move on to the next pair of suspects, hence my vote would be for Mellowman.

meaning the third pair is the least suspicious to me right now.

Grimmy
stands by his system. This is how and why I will vote the next two days. It is up to all of you to make up your own minds for the rest of the votes.

[Sethaniel]

The reason for Sethenel wagon? You'll find, if you read yourself, there wasn't any given. That wagon grew from 0 to 3 without anyone making any serious case against him

Sethwagon participants- Grimmy, Surye, and Mellow.

Grimmy's reason: ? He has a lynch plan. I don't know why I'm at the top, or why he's so sure clearing me would automatically clear Surye.

Surye's reason: Apparently, he thought Grimmy's lynch plan was my plan. Therefore, I think it makes sense for him to change votes to Grimmy.

Mellow: Again, ? He never posts a case against me. The closest he gets to a reason is "yeah, that's right, it's L-1."

I don't like Grimmy's plan. Not just because I'm at the top of the list. I think it's a terrible idea to pair people up like that, and immediately declare that one person's innocence or guilt will automatically condemn or clear the other. Especially because I don't see much evidence of connection between the pairs.

FoS Grimmy

I don't want to put us at L-1 too quickly, and there's another person I suspect.

FoS Mellowed Man

First he pushes Celebloki hard, while simultaneously FoSing ChaosOmega for pushing Celebloki. Then, when Grimmy lays out his plan, Mellow jumps on the Sethwagon without giving a reason. After Surye leaves the wagon, but more importantly

when Grimmy states his plan to vote Mellow if Seth comes up innocent,

Mellow suddenly switches his vote to Grimmy.

[Mellowed Man]

First he pushes Celebloki hard, while simultaneously FoSing ChaosOmega for pushing Celebloki. Then, when Grimmy lays out his plan, Mellow jumps on the Sethwagon without giving a reason. After Surye leaves the wagon, but more importantly

when Grimmy states his plan to vote Mellow if Seth comes up innocent,

Mellow suddenly switches his vote to Grimmy.

First of all, obviously you didn't read the past few pages well. I NEVER FoSed ChaosOmega... I only FoSed Celebloki. Your wagon was for pressure, I'm pretty sure we clearly stated that. I swithced my vote for Grimmy because that post set off many alarms. As stated, there is no reason for a townie to already plan a lynch for two days in a row, with no good reasons or logic whatsoever.

[Surye]

I swithced my vote for Grimmy because that post set off many alarms. As stated, there is no reason for a townie to already plan a lynch for two days in a row, with no good reasons or logic whatsoever.

qft

[Grimmy]

My reasoning is quite simple.

The two scum characters are playing off of each other in order to get townies lynched.

and at some point, it would be feasible for one to throw the other to the wolves in order to save him/her self and still have their teamwin the game.

Hence my Pairings.

question
What exactly is LYOL?

and from the wiki, Mellowmans change of heart is a suspicious OMGUS, and makes me even MORE suspicious of him

HOS: Mellowman

and just to put this out there so nobody accuses me of bait and switch, if we become closer to the deadline, MM doesnt say anything to make me less suspicious, and if he is at l-1, I will not hesitate to change my vote and drop the hammer on him.

Grimmy
putting all his cards on the table.

[Grimmy]

checked the wiki

read up on the LYOL.

but noone really has a solid idea of who the scum DEFINITELY are.

Ill keep my vote out there, but if more solid proof is shown, I will change it for the good of the town.

Grimmy

[Mellowed Man]

question
What exactly is LYOL?

and from the wiki, Mellowmans change of heart is a suspicious OMGUS, and makes me even MORE suspicious of him

HOS: Mellowman

and just to put this out there so nobody accuses me of bait and switch, if we become closer to the deadline, MM doesnt say anything to make me less suspicious, and if he is at l-1, I will not hesitate to change my vote and drop the hammer on him.

1) You are using the wiki as a means of justifying your "case". If you are relying on the Wiki to teach you how to play mafia, then it's not working. You are saying you will hammer me if I am at lynch -1, because the Wiki says that "MY OWN change of heart" is a suspicious OMGUS????? Sorry, I have to laugh at that.

but noone really has a solid idea of who the scum DEFINITELY are.

Ill keep my vote out there, but if more solid proof is shown, I will change it for the good of the town.

Wow. You are saying, "Look, if I change my vote later, it's because there's more solid proof shown! so don't blame me for change of heart and just jumping a bandwagon because you want someone lynched!"

confirm vote: Grimmy

[Sir Tornado]

Grimmy's reason: ? He has a lynch plan. I don't know why I'm at the top, or why he's so sure clearing me would automatically clear Surye.

Surye's reason: Apparently, he thought Grimmy's lynch plan was my plan. Therefore, I think it makes sense for him to change votes to Grimmy.

Mellow: Again, ? He never posts a case against me. The closest he gets to a reason is "yeah, that's right, it's L-1."

Grimmy, Surye and Mellow,
Are these indeed your reasons for voting Seth or do you have any thing to add here?

[Surye]

Grimmy's reason: ? He has a lynch plan. I don't know why I'm at the top, or why he's so sure clearing me would automatically clear Surye.

Surye's reason: Apparently, he thought Grimmy's lynch plan was my plan. Therefore, I think it makes sense for him to change votes to Grimmy.

Mellow: Again, ? He never posts a case against me. The closest he gets to a reason is "yeah, that's right, it's L-1."

Grimmy, Surye and Mellow,
Are these indeed your reasons for voting Seth or do you have any thing to add here?

My vote was on him originally because I didn't like a few posts as I pointed out, but then I stayed on the wagon due to the confusion he pointed out, and promptly hopped off when I realized my mistake.

[Surye]

but noone really has a solid idea of who the scum DEFINITELY are.

Ill keep my vote out there, but if more solid proof is shown, I will change it for the good of the town.

Grimmy

Except of course scum.

And this last part felt really scummy, for much the same reasons MM pointed out.

[Grimmy]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAND WERE BACK.....


After seeing what has happened, I see a bit of a pattern here, so I have my suspicions of who the two scum are, so to get the first one out

VOTE: SETHANIEL

and for his partner

FOS: SURYE

These two have done a masterful job of having the town kill themselves. How much prodding have the two of them done, and then only have one vote to lynch when it came time to do so?

Grimmy
keeping his eye on these two

this is to remind everyone why I voted for Seth first. at this point in the game, he was just as suspicious as some of the others on my list, so I went with my guy feeling and pointed him out first.

And as time has gone by, Mellowman has become a bit more suspicious to me.
However, im not sure if it him trying to point everyones attention towards other people rather than himself, or he is just a very aggresive player

as for my supposed "Wiki" defense. (Johnny Cochran's voice booms out: If the wikimakes no sense, you gotta acquit!)

I first asked what LYOL meant, then posted afterwards to let everyone know that I looked it up myself onthe wiki link above.
Im not saying my reason for voting for you are based on the Wiki.
Im saying "you dont have to give me an answer to that questionbecause i looked it up on the WIKI"

So before I leave, lets put all of our chips on the table, shall we?

unvote: sethanial

vote: Mellowman

You are way more suspicious to me than Seth is, so you have topped the Scum list in my book.

basically, I know this will put me against Mellowman, and im OK with that.

This is not an OMGUS vote. This is a "He seems the scummiest" vote.

Im leaving my vote as is for the remainder of this "day" and let the chips fall where they may. If I am lynched, when it is revealed that im a townie, it should also give sufficient credibility that im right about Mellowman's scumminess.

Grimmy
going for broke.