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Post Post #800 (ISO) » Thu May 22, 2008 4:10 pm

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Vote Count #32


Gorrad[3] (Xtoxm, Toaster Strudel, Machiavellian-Mafia)
Xtoxm[2] (pickemgenius, Gorrad)
Tarhalindur[1] (shaft.ed)
Xtoxm[1] (Kison)
shaft.ed[1] (Tarhalindur)


Not Voting[4]: (the silent speaker, Rosso Carne, elias_the_thief, Surye)

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Post Post #801 (ISO) » Thu May 22, 2008 4:14 pm

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sorry about that ive been having connection problems all day...mod, please delete any two of those, really doesnt matter which.
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Post Post #802 (ISO) » Thu May 22, 2008 5:43 pm

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Tar I suggest you read iPick for a more valid town meta on me it's much more recent. Your suggestion that I post less content as scum is incorrect. My posting depth has decreased some with time on site however. Also you're wrong that House Mafia had no in depth analysis, and I have an ongoing as dead scum that contains lengthy posts.

I have to say that your outing yourself as Cop with one vote on the second day was incredibly daft. There was no need for that. Also if Gorrad is a SK why would he play this gambit? He's dead once Xtoxm flips.

Overall we know that one of the claimants is likely lying. But it also seems as though, like Adel and ABR yesterday, things are likely to sort out in the night phase. This means I'm likely not supporting a claimant lynch. Since there's a chance that Xtoxm is lying that means my concerns about Rosso are less likely to be relevant. Thus
unvote vote: Rosso
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Post Post #803 (ISO) » Thu May 22, 2008 5:44 pm

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EBWOP: sorry for all of the above likely's
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Post Post #804 (ISO) » Thu May 22, 2008 7:06 pm

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Rosso's damn near non-playing is enough for me to want a wagon on him, but I fear with less then 20 hours left, it's going to be really close. Of the people who have not claimed, really the only people I see as lynchable are the silent speaker, Rosso Carne, and Machiavellian-Mafia, but mostly for lack of play.

I'm not positive Rosso has voted even once, so I decided to look at him in isolation, and wow, look what I find.

All of his posts:
Rosso Carne wrote:
Tarhalindur wrote:
Vote: Rosso Carne
for lurking in a certain ongoing game.
dont talk about ongoing games.

I only lurk when games suck.
Rosso Carne wrote:
Adel wrote:
Mod: camisade has not posted in this thread yet. Prod?

Rosso Carne has not voted yet... I'd like to get out of the random stage, thank you very much nicely.
nah, nothing really to vote on IMHO.
Doesn't do much in the random phase..
Rosso Carne wrote:
Ectomancer wrote:
shaft.ed wrote:
Adel wrote:
Rosso Carne wrote:
Adel wrote:
Mod: camisade has not posted in this thread yet. Prod?

Rosso Carne has not voted yet... I'd like to get out of the random stage, thank you very much nicely.
nah, nothing really to vote on IMHO.
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shaft.ed wrote:Shameless bandwagoning noted
damnit you broke the chain.
Rosso Carne wrote:lets ylnch camisade while hes gone
Spam Spam Spam.
Rosso Carne wrote:wow, this thread is useless.

can we please get some real arguments for me to derail besides the usual Adel being the new BM?

dont like Adel right now.
Makes a call for arguments, providing absolutely none, and blindly attacks Adel (pathetic attempt at distancing?)
Rosso Carne wrote:someone cite a coolbot vote reason please for me.
Again, seeking others to do the work without contributing so much as a scrap.
Rosso Carne wrote:
Ectomancer wrote:
Rosso Carne wrote:someone cite a coolbot vote reason please for me.
I'll explain your vote:

You don't feel like reading, so to contribute to the game without the effort, you are going to put Coolbot at L-1 so he can claim and we can all decide to lynch him or not. Simon says.
uh no, i saw no reason to vote him and was derailing this bandwagon.

youre on of those that needs to think before you talk. otherwise, the words jsut come out sounding like stupid-ass.
This is a pointless post, half of it is an insult, half of it is another call for others to spoon feed him.
Rosso Carne wrote:why is there not a wagon on Adel.

seriously, a post every five seconds and absolutely zero content.

that gal oughta be at least to L-3 by now.
More Adel distancing, also another hypocritical post about content.
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CoolBot wrote:Rosso, you aren't even voting anyone. If you really want a bandwagon, take action and vote. No one will care otherwise.


I agree that Tar ignoring Albert is odd, especially considering he was the one who said Surye was at L-1 to get people to unvote.
meh, not my style.
Voting is not your style? What game do you think you are playing?
Rosso Carne wrote:
CoolBot wrote:
the silent speaker wrote:CoolBot, since Surye is not now in imminent danger of lynch, why do you continue to insist that he claim?
Initially, I was trying to get people to stop unvoting him. That didn't work, and he hasn't given me any reason to unvote him. Finally, I find people who avoid claims don't have one. Therefore, he's my default vote until he does.
Rosso Caine wrote:meh, not my style.
Then what is your style? Because right now it looks like you're trying to foment a lynch with taking the risk of actually voting the person.
I'm attacking them. If you're too lazy to read posts past votes, then you ought to not be playing mafia.
Pathetic excuse for not voting.
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CoolBot wrote:Attacks without votes are meaningless and are usually ignored. Trying to get a bandwagon started without voting is often a waste of time. Why did you attack Adel without taking the risk of a vote? The most likely explanation I have is that you're scum trying to get her lynched without having to take responsibility for starting the wagon. Why else would you do it?
so youre saying you seriosuly dont read posts, you only play based on voting records?

I'm attacking adel, there is a clear record of it. if she is lynched without me voting for her, then read the damn posts and youll know i was still against her, jsut didnt vote at the drop of a dime.
Your posts have clearly had 0 content, you mentioned adel twice with absolutely NO logic or reason whatsoever.
Rosso Carne wrote:haha meta.,

it looks like meat.
Spam.
Rosso Carne wrote:I liekthis game. i also believ adel needs to be lynched. =D
Spam and adel distancing.
Rosso Carne wrote:im happy with either wagon still. please get them going.
But still does not vote, or provide why either wagon has value.
Rosso Carne wrote:MMk. I honeslty don't think that the coolbot wagon is anywhere near the place to look for scum. He did some scummy shit, flat out, and that means people SHOULD lynch him. I'm always an advocate of lynching someone scummy and standing by it.

On the other hand, I don't like the last votes on the wagon. They seem really of the idea of "if I hammah and he turns up town I'll get attacked." If they weren't as reprehensive, great, but those votes took FOREVER to pile on.
Rosso Carne wrote:Thuis, I support a gorrad lynch.
First hint of any reasoning or logic from Rosso. However, when you look at it, he's not saying a whole lot. Basically the first paragraph reads as "I am glad town got lynched for poor play, even if I knew it wasn't scum" What?

Votes took forever to pile on? You never voted ONCE.

You supported a gorrad lynch? You never voted ONCE.
Rosso Carne wrote:I'm getting replaced in my other games, but im gonna stick it for this one.

I'll get to a thourough reread tomorrow and figure out who needs to be lynched and get this day moving =D
Here's hoping we get some Rosso content! ...
Rosso Carne wrote:I read through and I'm not EXACTLY sure why surye is being wagoned. if someone got it all in one place that would be great.

Based on D1 purely, im also willing to support a gorrad wagon, maybe.
Oh, damn, nope, guess not. More begging for others to do work for him, and another blind attack at gorrad.




And that was every single post of his in this game. Not one game worthy post, not one vote, and Adel distancing.

If anyone in this game deserved a vote, it's him.

Vote: Rosso Carne
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Post Post #805 (ISO) » Thu May 22, 2008 10:49 pm

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I highly doubt it, but I had a thought. What if Rosso has a no-voting post restriction? Anyone have meta with Rosso and this kind of behavior? I'm still happy with a Rosso lynch after my analysis, but I wanted to bring the thought up if anyone else had any input.
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Post Post #806 (ISO) » Fri May 23, 2008 1:07 am

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Possible, I wouldn't bet on it. With deadline aproaching, I'm ok with the night plan.

Unvote, Vote: Rosso Carne
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Post Post #807 (ISO) » Fri May 23, 2008 2:17 am

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I'll gladly go with Rosso Carne.

Unvote

Vote : Rosso Carne
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Post Post #808 (ISO) » Fri May 23, 2008 3:47 am

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Gorrad wrote:Possible, I wouldn't bet on it. With deadline aproaching, I'm ok with the night plan.

Unvote, Vote: Rosso Carne
Yea, even with that restriction he's been less then useless for no good reason.
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Post Post #809 (ISO) » Fri May 23, 2008 4:40 am

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Surye, thanks for the analysis. That's pretty much what I've been seeing since my earlier vote on him.
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Post Post #810 (ISO) » Fri May 23, 2008 5:09 am

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I seem to remember Rosso playing like this before, but I'm not certain. Anyways, I'm gonna be gone until Monday.
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Post Post #811 (ISO) » Fri May 23, 2008 5:45 am

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Elias_the_thief wrote:I seem to remember Rosso playing like this before, but I'm not certain. Anyways, I'm gonna be gone until Monday.
We've got like 8 hours left in the day and you're not going to vote? Noted.
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Post Post #812 (ISO) » Fri May 23, 2008 8:38 am

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Gorrad is lying. We know SK killed Adel, so even if you don't believe me now you know to lynch him when I die.
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Post Post #813 (ISO) » Fri May 23, 2008 9:10 am

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3 hours 50 minutes until deadline.

Votes after deadline will not count, even if I am not on to check the thread at that time.
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Post Post #814 (ISO) » Fri May 23, 2008 9:11 am

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Unless Gaurdian put in an SK cop with no SK. I can see him doing that, actually.
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Post Post #815 (ISO) » Fri May 23, 2008 9:13 am

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Well, I guess i'll check Gorrad tonight. If i'm killed in the way Adel dies you gotta lynch Gorrad.
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Post Post #816 (ISO) » Fri May 23, 2008 9:19 am

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Xtoxm wrote:Unless Gaurdian put in an SK cop with no SK. I can see him doing that, actually.
Funny, we've been saying that possibility all along, and now, just before the deadline, you setup a fallback.

You better not be lying, it will be pretty obvious if you do.
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Post Post #817 (ISO) » Fri May 23, 2008 9:21 am

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That's only 4 votes on Rosso I think. Open question to those not voting:

Why is a nolynch better then a Rosso lynch?
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Post Post #818 (ISO) » Fri May 23, 2008 9:22 am

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Can we please avoid a No lynch people?
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Post Post #819 (ISO) » Fri May 23, 2008 9:26 am

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unvote vote Rosso


How many to lynch at deadline? If 7 we need 2 more.
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Post Post #820 (ISO) » Fri May 23, 2008 9:28 am

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Gorrad wrote:MM why do you think he's a likely SK? That's a big stretch based off of a single comment in my eyes.
I think it makes the most sense for an SK to react strongly to that claim to try to discredit the SK investigator. Now taking into account Gorrad's overeager vig claim, I find it more likely that one of Xtoxm and Gorrad is lying, rather than both claiming truth. I buy Tar's claim.

I can go with the plan regarding Gorrad and Xtoxm. I also have no problem with a Rosso lynch, as I have expressed suspicion before and Surye made some valid analysis. I believe this vote will be the 6th vote, or L-1:
Unvote, Vote: Rosso
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Post Post #821 (ISO) » Fri May 23, 2008 9:29 am

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Oops in the quote in should "shaft.ed wrote" not "Gorrad wrote.
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Post Post #822 (ISO) » Fri May 23, 2008 10:09 am

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With 3 ppl not voting that'll be enough to lynch him.
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Post Post #823 (ISO) » Fri May 23, 2008 2:13 pm

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I want a lynch, but I do NOT want a Rosso lynch (Rosso is acting like Rosso, who would be better off being investigated and/or vigged, and appears to be inactive to boot). I strongly believe that there are multiple mafia on that wagon (probably shaft.ed and Kison).

In the interests of getting a lynch,
Unvote
User out of ambit.

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Post Post #824 (ISO) » Fri May 23, 2008 2:49 pm

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Tarhalindur wrote:I want a lynch, but I do NOT want a Rosso lynch (Rosso is acting like Rosso, who would be better off being investigated and/or vigged, and appears to be inactive to boot). I strongly believe that there are multiple mafia on that wagon (probably shaft.ed and Kison).

In the interests of getting a lynch,
Unvote
1) You posted it after the deadline.
2) Your unvote does not matter, he would have been lynched anyways by my count.

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