Mini 584: Sudo_Nym Presents- Over!

[TheSweatpantsNinja]

Its quiet time, zeek.

Vote greasy spot.

[Lowell]

vote iceman

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For post 438. He seemed a little to eager to jump on someone for the hammer.

[icemanE]

vote: Grease

You dink.

[Thestatusquo]

So uh... Mafia gave us a free kill, or kudos to the doctor or something...


Either way, Time to policy lynch grease...

Top suspect TSPN.

vote: Greasy spot

So, greasy, your role better be confirmable, or you're swinging today.

[Johoohno]

Vote: Greasy Spot

No matter alignment, his actions aren't really helpful (can't say I've seen a game with his being helpful though).

[Sudo_Nym]

And this seems as good a place as any for a vote count:

Greasy Spot 4

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TheSweatpantsNinja, icemanE, Thestatusquo, Johoohno

icemanE 1-

Lowell

With 11 alive, 6 will lynch.

[TDC]

Vote: Greasy Spot

There you go, L-1.

I hope people can actually wait for a claim this time..

[FaerieLord]

Vote: g.....

Oh wait .

Also, policy lynches suck. Are we actually going to lose a day of discussion this damn early? We can still lynch him later and look at what lowell said up there.

[Thestatusquo]

We wait for a claim, then hammer him. Thats that.

[Thestatusquo]

Expanding upon that, policy lynches do suck, but a, there's got to be a reason why people don't hammer prematurely (aside from that being a boneheaded stupid play.) If we don't lynch the occasional town who does it (and thats assuming he's town, which is a stretch) then the scum can do it all they want.

Second, we have a unique situation here where the mafia didn't get a kill in last night, which means that not only are we up ++ on information for tomorrow, we're up a kill. So if he IS town, then he's as good as the mafias kill last night. It's still not great if he's town, but not as bad as it woud be.

[Greasy Spot]

Wait... I am the Doc and I protected TheSweatpantsNinja and that's why we didn't have a Mafia Kill last night.

[Greasy Spot]

If you guys want to vote me out then that's fine. I had already asked to be replaced but the Mod couldn't find anyone who would stand in for my sorry ass. I've been real busy in RL and that's why I haven't been posting. I saw the vote count and figured if I hammered that would surely get me voted the next day. I protected TheSweatpantsNinja last night just by chance. I just picked someone and he was it. So either Mafia targeted him or they forgot to send in a name. Either way I will most likely be their target tonight if I last till then.

[Johoohno]

unvote

@ Greasy Spot

: Since you're here now, care to weigh in on yesterdays events with player analysis and the likes. (Greasy Spots profile shows his being active in several games, is this the game that is too much for his real life responsibilities?)

I'm also awaiting a counter claim.

[Greasy Spot]

I am currently reading now.

[Greasy Spot]

Well I did a quick reread of the whole game. I don't have specific quotes to make much of an argument, but my highest suspects are:

1) Johoono
2) TDC
3) Nanosauromo/Sir Tornado
4) FaerieLord
5) Thestatusquo

With 12 players we probably only have 3 mafia members and possibly a 3rd party player as well but not very likely.

Sorry for not being more helpful.

[Lowell]

I really hate doc claims.

[TheSweatpantsNinja]

Unvote.

For now.

I don't know if I buy it, I'm not sure I would have picked me out as the mafia kill.

Of course, if he's telling the truth, then we go back to an iceman lynch looking really good to me.

[FaerieLord]

Expanding upon that, policy lynches do suck, but a, there's got to be a reason why people don't hammer prematurely (aside from that being a boneheaded stupid play.) If we don't lynch the occasional town who does it (and thats assuming he's town, which is a stretch) then the scum can do it all they want.

Second, we have a unique situation here where the mafia didn't get a kill in last night, which means that not only are we up ++ on information for tomorrow, we're up a kill. So if he IS town, then he's as good as the mafias kill last night. It's still not great if he's town, but not as bad as it woud be.

The numbers disagree if we go down to a 4 person situation, as the mafia will have an extra choice for a kill if we nolynch to narrow down to 3

1) Johoono
2) TDC
3) Nanosauromo/Sir Tornado
4) FaerieLord
5) Thestatusquo

So half the game is scummy? Wow, you really are good!

I don't know if I buy it, I'm not sure I would have picked me out as the mafia kill.

I surely wouldn't have. I'd have nuked TSQ because I know he's a good player. But all this is wifom. If I was mafia, would I leave shea alive so I could make this argument? And the wifom ensues. So I'd rather leave the "I wouldn't nuke me" comments to the side

As for greasy. I don't want to touch this wagon. Gut is telling me greasy is town. I just wish he'd contribute more. Especially today, considering that if we don't lynch him, mafia might kill him, given that he is a doc, and there are no counterclaims

[TDC]

Hm, well.
I guess with that no night kill, we can be pretty sure there is a Doc, so I'd see GS pretty much as confirmed town if nobody counterclaims.

unvote

Still, even if he is the Doc

I've been real busy in RL and that's why I haven't been posting. I saw the vote count and figured if I hammered that would surely get me voted the next day.

That's just a tiny bit off committing suicide with a power role (at least you didn't self hammer at L-1).
Why not lurk until a replacement is found?

[icemanE]

I don't buy Grease being doc. I highly doubt the doc would want to rush into the night stage like he did - the doc would want to find out who to protect.

[FaerieLord]

iceman, no counterclaims. Think about it. This is a mini normal game. Docs are really common. I think Grease's play was as bad as the next person, but it's still pretty plausible that it was just a bad move

[icemanE]

iceman, no counterclaims. Think about it. This is a mini normal game. Docs are really common. I think Grease's play was as bad as the next person, but it's still pretty plausible that it was just a bad move

While the absence of a counter claim doesn't necessarily prove the claim, I guess you're right, as it's the only claim we have to work from.

unvote

. That's a bummer though, I was fairly certain we had scum, and now all we have is a claim we didn't really want. Now the doc is in the open.

[Greasy Spot]

Why not lurk until a replacement is found?

I had asked for a replacement but one couldn't be found.


Had I not protected the right person last I most likely would not have interfered with my Lynch today; however I thought the rest of you would like to know that.

[Lowell]

I do not believe the claim.

I think he's trying to bait the real doc, which is more or less why I hate doc claims when someone gets to L-1 after being all scummy. It's like a free doc kill for scum for getting caught. Get a townie on your side (it's almost certain TSN is town either way) and force the real doc out of hiding.

[TheSweatpantsNinja]

Oh yeah, and don't let me forget, doc or not, greasy spot, you're still an idiot.

In the absence of both a counterclaim and an explanation of a lack of kill, I'll go back to iceman. Not only was he highly scummy yesterday, if anyone had motivation to kill me off, it was him.

Vote icemanE.