Mafia 78: Meta Breaking Mafia 1 - Game over!

[Kison]

Oh, Tarhalindur...

[Surye]

Kison, your new avatar is freaking me out. For the record.

[Xtoxm]

I like lurker lynches...

[Guardian]

Vote Count #33

Rosso Carne[6] (shaft.ed, Surye, Gorrad, Kison, Xtoxm, Machiavellian-Mafia)
Gorrad[1] (Toaster Strudel)
Xtoxm[1] (pickemgenius)
shaft.ed[1] (Tarhalindur)


Not Voting[3]: (the silent speaker, Rosso Carne, elias_the_thief)

~~~

Rosso is lynched by a deadline majority.

Rosso

was a

goon

.

Deadline for night actions is 8 PM Tuesday May 27. I may start day earlier if I get all the night actions in before that time

.

[Guardian]

Day 3 Starts

Day 3 has a deadline of ~20 days -- it will end no later than Thursday June 12 8 PM EST. I am setting a deadline at a little less than 20 days because I have V/LA starting on the 15th, so it would be great for you if I were able to for sure be around to resolve night actions.

Xtoxm was chainsawed to death.

Xtoxm

was a

FBI Agent

.

Day 3 has begun.

[Tarhalindur]

Hmm. I got a result last night - another innocent. I can reveal that player's name if needed, but as that player is still alive I would rather refrain from doing so.

In the meantime, hunting for Rosso connections can wait. Gorrad is the lynch for today. Period.

Vote: Gorrad
LOCK ON: Gorrad

[Toaster Strudel]

vote: Gorrad

[Toaster Strudel]

"Chainsawed," is that an SK-kill?

There's also "pistol-whipped" but no pistol-whipped death last night.

[Gorrad]

Huh. Ok, I'm the lynch.

Vote: Gorrad

[shaft.ed]

Welp I can see both Gorrad the vig and Gorrad the SK wanting to kill Xtoxm. Seems the town has the lynch to waste to test out mod shenanigans and Gorrad's self vote feels like an "a real SK wouldn't do that" type of ploy. I think I'd be OK with a Gorrad lynch. But would like to not string him up before everyone posts.

@TS, PEG where were you end of day yesterday when scum was being last minute quicklynched?

@Tar, why not investigate Gorrad? (I think I know but just checking)

[Surye]

Vote: Gorrad

I think it's important to stick to the plan, not doing so would be allowing an SK to create a WIFOM.

Welp I can see both Gorrad the vig and Gorrad the SK wanting to kill Xtoxm. Seems the town has the lynch to waste to test out mod shenanigans and Gorrad's self vote feels like an "a real SK wouldn't do that" type of ploy.

Much like that is getting close to

[Machiavellian-Mafia]

GorradSK is in full desperation mode now, so he should be the lynch today. But I agree with shaft.ed that we need to have everyone post before lynching Gorrad. There's 10 alive, so it's 6 to lynch and Gorrad already has 4 votes.

[Gorrad]

No, seriously, I was wrong about Xtoxm. We're a good deal away from LYLO and I can't target myself. The number of kills makes me think that this WAS just bastard-modding. With no SK, it makes sense to off me, to remove a kill if nothing else. Y'all have no way of trusting me, and I can't target myself. Better now than later.

[the silent speaker]

Let me know when you want me to vote Gorrad.

[Surye]

Note, if Tar had unvoted before the deadline, no-lynch and Rosso lynch would have been tied.

FOS: Tar

[shaft.ed]

Note, if Tar had unvoted before the deadline, no-lynch and Rosso lynch would have been tied.

FOS: Tar

I don't think your math is right, and Not voting is not the same as No Lynching.

[pickemgenius]

@TS, PEG where were you end of day yesterday when scum was being last minute quicklynched?

At Colorado looking for houses....



*in the process of moving*

[Surye]

Note, if Tar had unvoted before the deadline, no-lynch and Rosso lynch would have been tied.

FOS: Tar

I don't think your math is right, and Not voting is not the same as No Lynching.

Ah, I misread the deadline rule, my apologies.

[Tarhalindur]

Welp I can see both Gorrad the vig and Gorrad the SK wanting to kill Xtoxm. Seems the town has the lynch to waste to test out mod shenanigans and Gorrad's self vote feels like an "a real SK wouldn't do that" type of ploy. I think I'd be OK with a Gorrad lynch. But would like to not string him up before everyone posts.

@TS, PEG where were you end of day yesterday when scum was being last minute quicklynched?

@Tar, why not investigate Gorrad? (I think I know but just checking)

Because the wording of my results makes me pretty damn sure that I cannot detect the SK (either due to being Naive or due to being Mafia-specific) and if Gorrad is scum he is the SK. In addition, my priority right now is to prove sanity by either getting a Guilty or investigating a scum as innocent/

In addition,

Big Fat FoS of Doom: Toaster Strudel

for that comment on the missing kill method.

[Surye]

Warning "Setup Speculation": One prime place for meta-breaking to happen could be in role-weapon associations, just thought about that today.

[shaft.ed]

@Tar, that's what I expected, just wanted to make sure you were sticking with the role you claimed yesterday.

Being meta-breaking mafia I am a bit concerned about Gorrad actually being a vig. But can anyone think of a way to test such an association? If he is town aligned he's like having an extra lynch per cycle.

Also Gorrad why kill Xtoxm last night? I understand it at face value, but being in a game title Meta Breaking Mafia you gotta wonder about the apparent liklihood of Guardian pairing an FBI agent with a focred vig. Why not just give him the night to investigate you? If he's town and your town end of problem. If he's lying we'll know once you flip.

[shaft.ed]

EBWOP: That first line above is not trying to imply I disbelieve Tar, I was simply very crudely testing his claim.

[Gorrad]

L-2 = claim time. I'm an overeager vig. Must kill every night, cannot target self. I killed Adel. I stated much suspicion of her before night, and it payed off. That's why I don't believe Xtoxm. It's possible that there's a SK, but I highly doubt it. Scum would see that kill, assume SK, and claim accordingly. Simple, neh?

The fact that I'm claiming this also negates any allegations of my being partnered with Adel. If I was, then I could be counter-claimed. I won't be, therefore that bit of suspicion should be dropped immeadiately, thank you Tar.

Tar and Xtoxm are top of my list. If I survive today, I'll gaurantee one dead tomorrow (so you can be assured it's not a one-shot ability). Now, can we lynch Xtoxm please?

I have some difficulty buying this, but it is *potentially* consistent with what I know.

Regardless, I think it's time for my claim (mainly because if Gorrad is telling the truth and alive tonight he needs to know just how stupid his idea is). I'm a Cop (sanity currently unknown). I investigated ABR N1 (because he's ABR); despite ABR's death, I found that he was specifically not a member of the Mafia (so I'm either Sane or Naive, and I can apparently only find Mafia). This suggests to me that there is a second scumgroup in the game; if so, Gorrad is almost certainly the SK.

I think I know what should be done here. We keep myself, Gorrad, and Xtoxm alive today. Tonight, Gorrad targets Xtoxm. If Xtoxm comes up scum, Gorrad is mostly clear; if Gorrad kills a different player or if Xtoxm is an FBI Agent, Gorrad gets lynched tomorrow (or left alive for a bit if I survive with a guilty).

As for who should be lynched at deadline... my best candidate is shaft.ed. After my reread here, his play looks much, much more like his play in Open 57 and House Mafia (where he was scum) than his play in Mini 492 and Mini 495 (where he was town). Note the short posts, Mafia theory, and lack of long analysis posts - coming from shaft.ed, that's remarkably scummy.

Unvote, Vote: shaft.ed

[Toaster Strudel]

Sorry guys I've been pretty busy.

I should have a bit more time next week.

[Guardian]

filler post