Open 53: Near-Vanilla - Game over!

[Eldritch Lord]

Outside intervention diverts suspicion and would be far preferable than directly setting up a bandwagon. If it worked, it would be a rather brilliant mafia ploy. I'd also like to see a little more pressure on you, since you've been coasting for a while and been able to sit idly at the sidelines tossing an opinion in here and there.

Just a vote, if you continue to act non-scummy with a little pressure then I'll probably hop on this Klebian bandwagon. He seems rather suspicious, but not close enough to a lynch for me to bandwagon on him.

[Shanba]

Brilliant mafia ploy?

Shanba (as scum): Hey, person, why don't you look over x?

Person: Good idea. Well, I think x is scummy.

Shanba: I agree. [/b]Vote: X[/b]

Do you not think this would be slightly obvious?

Moreover, I have not been coasting. I very distinctly remember laying out a case on skitzer just the other day. Unless you mean coasting by without suspicion? That's because people trust me, that's not a scumtell. In fact, that almost sounds like the "too townie" fallacy.

[neko2086]

Any suggestions on who/what I should look up first or you willing to let me just do my thing and post back whatever comes up?

You should do something pro-town and not ask for direction...


Eldritch, are you voting Shanba primarily because you think he's most likely to be scum, or because you just want pressure on him?

Also, your predecessor has also not been suspected much. Should someone be voting you as well, then?

[Korlash]

wow.. yeah that makes me want to get caught up..

Well fuck you guys then, I'll go back to luking if thats the type of shit I have to deal with.

[Eldritch Lord]

That's because people trust me, that's not a scumtell. In fact, that almost sounds like the "too townie" fallacy.

People trusted Hitler would be easily appeased.

Eldritch, are you voting Shanba primarily because you think he's most likely to be scum, or because you just want pressure on him?

Also, your predecessor has also not been suspected much. Should someone be voting you as well, then?

To be honest, I had no considered this. Upon reading over Justin's posts once again, I have changed my mind. Based on his reasoning:

unFoS: Klebian

unvote

Vote: Klebian

HoS: Korlash

(Based solely on Justin's reasoning, which makes sense to me).

My case against Shanba was weak, which is why it has been so easily abandoned--Yes, that does count as my reasoning for votedropping.

[Korlash]

HoS: Korlash (Based solely on Justin's reasoning, which makes sense to me).

ehh I never got it personally but to each his own... well... i suppose to each someone else's own... er... well.. <.<

*walks away*

[TheSweatpantsNinja]

Did you really just pull out an appeasement reference, el? Is that some sort of complicated meta-joke? I hope so.

FoAM: Eldritch Lord

(Finger of Absurd Metaphors)

Also, shanba's case was the reason I voted for skitzer, so he hasn't been that behind the scenes. But I guess you've given that up to wagon klebian, which I support.

Korlash, if you don't want to be told to act protown, act protown.

[Korlash]

ok... um... /act protown...

thats kinda a stupid thing to tell soemone to do... what do you want me to do, vote for scum? seriously...

You can basically boil down what I saked as a crudely formed attempt to se eif anyone had any questions for me, or major oppinons they needed me to answer. Sorry for trying to get back into the game. My bad. I'll never do it again. bad Korlash.. bad trying to be a good player.. bad... /weakly slaps self.

Also appologies for that last outburst, been ina bad mood lately and seem to be taking it out in my games. Good news though cause i think its passed. ^^ still think half of you can go to hell but at least now I can pretend to not hate you so much! yays!

Um currently I still think Justin was scum, so I think eldritch is scum by default. Would be agianst either a tsn or kleb lynch simply cause I have no real opinon on them at all. and the rest of you are town to me until further notice. there you can suck on that for a while while i catch up.

[Hjallti]

Vote count

It takes 5 out of 8 to lynch (before June 9th)

TheSweatpantsNinja

: 1 (killa seven)

klebian

: 1 (Eldritch lord)

Not voting: 6 (TheSweatpantsNinja, Shanba, neko2086, Korlash, jtdyer, klebian)

[jtdyer]

I feel torn. I kind of can see TSN as scum, but not entirely. The same with klebian. I'm gonna go a different direction, and

vote: Eldritch Lord

. I became a little suspicious of Justing yesterday. I feel like sometimes his posts seemed to be scum-hunting, but they were throwing suspicion in the wrong direction. His posts seemed full of substance, but bad substance.

[Eldritch Lord]

Meta-Game Comment: This game moves very slowly in comparison to the other game I'm in.

In-Game: Jtdyer, are there specific points of Justin's posts that I can address for you?

[TheSweatpantsNinja]

I can kind of get behind jtdyer's statement. There's not a specific post I can point to, he just feels. . . slippery.

But klebian or k7 are both better choices for today.

[klebian]

I can kind of get behind jtdyer's statement. There's not a specific post I can point to, he just feels. . . slippery.

But klebian or k7 are both better choices for today.

Could I have some reasons? You've mentioned a few times that you see me as suspicious but this seems to be a change from previously where you haven't really mentioned me... You don't give me much to defend if you just say I'm scummy... Neko and Eldritch are the only ones who have at least said something.
Eldritch, I'm not sure what exactly you're saying about me. I am scumhunting but what is it that makes my scumhunting encourage a deadline? Also, I note your switch from 775,

Just a vote, if you [Shanba] continue to act non-scummy with a little pressure then I'll probably hop on this Klebian bandwagon. He seems rather suspicious, but not close enough to a lynch for me to bandwagon on him.

to a vote on me in 779 based on "justin's reasoning". A link between you and neko here is noted.

I'm going to reread day 2 and then comment, hopefully later today.

[jtdyer]

In-Game: Jtdyer, are there specific points of Justin's posts that I can address for you?

There wasn't anything specific, some of it just gives off the sense of scumness.

[Eldritch Lord]

In-Game: Jtdyer, are there specific points of Justin's posts that I can address for you?

There wasn't anything specific, some of it just gives off the sense of scumness.

That seems like a pretty baseless argument. Perhaps your vote would be better spent on someone with some hard evidence against them.

[Hjallti]

quick question: do we need prodding

[Korlash]

that korlash needs prodding... he never posts... /rollseyes

[Eldritch Lord]

Yes, all members not posting in the past 3 days should be prodded, even if they're here and checking. This game is so dead that something needs to happen or I may be out for a replace (if only to fill a wasted slot in my watched topics).

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[neko2086]

Sorry, I'll try to be more active.

Maybe to get things going again, I'd like a few people to clarify some things:

K7, in your post 766, you actually provided some sort of content, which is wonderful to see. Could you expand on the connections you saw between skitzer and TSN, though? Examples would be nice. Same for TSN and klebian.

Also, you put RW in your scum list because of D1 suspicions. Was there anything afterwards that made you still suspect him? How about his replacement?


Korlash, why do you have no opinion on TSN or klebian? Could you look into them some more and form an opinion?

I don't see why you're giving such a hissy fit when asked to contribute after you asked us to give you some direction. In my eyes, one of two things are happening:
1. You are scum and you just want to know what you can do to make us happy.
2. You are town and you are ready and willing to be manipulated by scum.

Neither scenario is good. So, do some rereads, form some opinions, get some concrete evidence, etc.

FOS

for you.


jtdyer, I have to agree w/ Eldrich on this one. You're vote, while originally seemed to be based off of something, turns out not to be based off of anything specific at all, so it boils down to gut, really. Gut is one of those things that some people feel is a good indicator, and whether you agree with that or not, I feel it should never, ever be used as an argument. You are not going to convince anyone else to vote Eldrich because your gut says so, or because you felt a certain scumminess from Justin's posts, therefore you appear to be voting for voting's sake. Also, perhaps it is an attempt to divert attention from either klebian or TSN.

FoS

for you as well.


klebian, I don't see the link you're trying to make between myself and Eldritch. The fact that we both suspect you? Have I also been voting based on Justin's reasoning?


TSN's post 786 makes me cry inside. I don't even know what to say...

Does the Finger of Absurd Metaphors fall above or below the FOS? Do you suspect Eldritch?

You've yet to provide any reasons for any of your suspicions, from what I can tell. And, since you admittedly voted skitzer because of shanba's reasoning, perhaps now would be a good time to start forming your own opinions.


There, let's get this thing moving again.

[TheSweatpantsNinja]

I don't suspect el of being scum, I suspect him of being ridiculous.

this game isn't going anywhere and skitzer hasn't said anything of real worth in many weeks

vote: skitzer

i'll go with a worthwhile lynch

That sounds reluctant, and also kind of like he knows skitzer is scum.

Also, skitzer-klebian interactions:

D1: Klebian says a skitzer post is dumb, but doesn't vote or FoS him.
Later, klebian says a skitzer post is weird, criticizes it, but doesn't vote or FoS him.
D3: Klebian says he doesn't understand a skitzer point about k7. (700, I didn't remember to grab the post numbers from the d1 posts).

Then, post 751, where klebian, without once giving any sign that he suspected skitzer, hammers.

Anyway, the entire game, skitzer didn't mention klebian, literally at all. Klebian was a non-entity as far as skitzer was concerned. The only times klebian mentioned skitzer was to

correct

him, and then, of course, to hammer him.

Satisfactory? Because I think that's pretty damning.

[Korlash]

Korlash, why do you have no opinion on TSN or klebian? Could you look into them some more and form an opinion?

I don't see why you're giving such a hissy fit when asked to contribute after you asked us to give you some direction. In my eyes, one of two things are happening:
1. You are scum and you just want to know what you can do to make us happy.
2. You are town and you are ready and willing to be manipulated by scum.

Neither scenario is good. So, do some rereads, form some opinions, get some concrete evidence, etc. FOS for you.

What? Now you wana start asking me stuff? After all that crap about "act protown" blah blah blah. Seriously... seriously... Come on man... I ask anyone for this exact crap, and a cople of you tell me to act pro town.

Tell ya what, ill give you my opinions on kleb after you tell me wtf "act protown" means. How the hell does someone "act protown"? Thats the weirdest thing anyone has ever told me to do before.

Now on to more things.

Your missing a few possibilities. Perhaps i town and want to make you ahppy, perhaps Im scum trying to get direction from buddies, perhaps Im town that is seriously rying to get back into the game and instead of waiting for you to ask me the exact thing you just did, I asked you to ask me first. Seriously your a smart guy, don't boil situations down to two possibilities where both of them are wrong.

Also, funny thing is you called yourself scum because hey, your trying to manipulate me apparently with that whole asking me opinions. Just fyi...

But on a more serious note heres my opinions, I'm town, your town, Kleb actually seems like likely scum just given what TSN just said. As for TSN.. well I could give a crap about him, he can tell me WTF act protown means too if he can. Doubt it. Although if hes really on the hopping block then you can assume this to be anther scum buddy bussng. But thats provided Kleb turns up scum, and I hate speculating on one person's allignment based on someone else's before that other person's alignment is revealed. So for now i'll just call him undecided. K7? Never heard of him.

Who else... Eldritch... i stand by the fact I still think Justin had a good chance of maybe being possible mafia at one point or another. And if... welll if he feels like leaving the game because its stalling... then why not lynch him? And for any of you that jus got the urge to FoS me for saying that can suck it cause its the same shit I've been taking crap for the past... however long I've been takign crap. Lack of interest in this game apparently makes you scum.

At this very second I could get behind a Kleb lynch. Happy now? no.. your never happy... <.< want a cookie? (>**)>o "munchmunchmunch"

[TheSweatpantsNinja]

wow.. yeah that makes me want to get caught up..

Well fuck you guys then, I'll go back to luking if thats the type of shit I have to deal with.

Let me give you a hint: Lurking and this post are not pro-town.

[Korlash]

How about losing an arm in a bad storm and havign to pend a week in the hospital then having to get caught up wile on pain meds?

Sounds to me like the same thing. So yoru saying RL stuff factors into alignment?

[TheSweatpantsNinja]

No, "not pro-town" is not the same as "anti-town." I'm not voting for you.

But if you aren't contributing, then we can't tell what alignment you are, (you haven't actually lost an arm, have you? Just an example?) and that's not pro-town.

Obviously, if you're V/LA, or completely absent and just need replacing, that's different.

[Korlash]

No i havent lost an arm. My spelling would be even worse if I had.

And while we're on this game, Not-Protown is not the example I need for how to "act protown." I mean I know what not to do. But please, define that one for me.

and who said anything about anti-town. I suppose the alignment comment counts for that one... But who said you were voting me? Seriously man you sound paranoid.