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[Nero Cain]

I think Succinct/joges is town. Pick two others for scum and why?

[0verki11]

Lycan for being overly wordy and not to the point.
Flapjack for replacing into a slot that lurked and was ignored.

[Nero Cain]

Ok its Amor so now townread for Flapjack

Flapjack for replacing into a slot that lurked and was ignored.

So you are both town reading and scumreading her?

[0verki11]

Ok its Amor so now townread for Flapjack

Flapjack for replacing into a slot that lurked and was ignored.

So you are both town reading and scumreading her?

typo it meant no townread, I didnt notice until you said it.

[0verki11]

anyway any of them apart from probably Lycan are fine lynches today

[0verki11]

holy shit a stanley kill makes perfect sense for a Lycan PoV

[Nero Cain]

how so?

[0verki11]

^^
ayone still on creature is highly suspect and since lycan is now potentially ignoring my questions (ill give benefit of the doubt if he answers soon) my town read on him is tanking hard

(im reading thorugh both isos now)
This last post makes them the perfect target, as he isnt commiting to a scumread on them but it seems like they might as later.
Its pretty much a safe kill from Lycans perspective.

[0verki11]

yeah looking back Stanley was borderline town buddying Lycan throughout the game until then.

[Flapjack]

Lycan for being overly wordy and not to the point.
Flapjack for replacing into a slot that lurked and was ignored.

The amount of times I got townie lurkers lynched because they were so easy to pick on as scum and I was ignorant and didn’t want to lynch from the active scum pool so I don’t look sus ;(

[profii]

I’ll not be self hammering

said no scum ever

I mean, you don't need to reread guy. I'm just letting you know that's why I'm not power lynching him. Its also why RCE is scum b/c why would town EVER want a short day here? I'm, essentially waiting on...

-words from lyncan
-overkill
-Enigma to answer my questions

Agree on that RCE point - was I Town reading him yesterday? The short day comment over rules that town read

[profii]

I’ll not be self hammering

said no scum ever

If I was gonna self hammer I’d have tried to get a counter claim on my way out the door but ok

[BuJaber]

He was saying that he'd vote him regardless of alignment b/c he has motivation to do it as both town and scum and then later clarified that he's more likely to vote him as town and less likely to vote him as scum.

It was a pointed and dammed if you do, dammed if you don't question from Bujaber.

You know what nero you're even worse than creature when he tunnels.

How about you actually read and not shade me for SAHSHADDIN'S MISUNDERSTANDING.

He didn't answer my question the first time. He answered an imaginary question in his head.

Profii was townreading sasha's vote and I wanted to know more about sasha's meta. Sasha answered but answered the wrong question. Then answered the right question after I clarified.

How do you see flapjack?

[Nero Cain]

Yeah, I'm tunnely. I realize I can be wrong but that whole "one of RCE/Nero is scum" just seemed so much like buddy play. Of course, you did eventually vote RCE and maybe that means you are less likely to be scum. I'll reread the thing with you and Sasha and tell you what I find/how I feel and pull up the relevant pancakes quotes.

[Nero Cain]

Hang on you didn't answer my question.. you pulled that old timey saloon hustler trick where you say heads I win, tails you lose.

The question was if you were scum:
-would you vote for profii if he were your scum buddy
-would you vote for profii if he were town

Oh that is so not what I understood
1. I don't have a lot of experience in bussing, I think I'd wait one more vote or two before going in. I can't say, I never had to do it. But it looks early.
2. Sure, he looks scum and there is a wagon forming on him. Good occasion to slip in.

"Would you vote him if you are scum"

"yes"

That's not pointed at all...I mean you could certainly use this to push Sash tomorrow.

[Nero Cain]

Lycanfire
RCEnigma
BuJaber
profii
Enigma
rosterfoster

Flapjack (cop/vig this lurksack!)

eh, your kinda nullish but it's not super hard for me to see a player that said they'd catch up then didn't catch up then read one page and join a town mislynch as scum play.

Why would it be impossible for you to come in and hammer town? Like, I'm not hard pushing you or anything but doing shit all and then coming in to vote on the leading wagon doesn't exactly make me go "oh that's soooo town."

though I'm prob not voting the alt today.

[Flapjack]

What is your read on overkill, sasha?

[Enigma]

These are scum driven mislynches

sure but that's vague, can you be more specific about who the scum are that are driving these wagons?

Can't put together a list at the moment, but tbh I'm actually feeling that scum have been leading the direction of the discussions and lynches (compared to my previous thinking that scum were lying low and letting town be confused).

So this probably requires a bit of rereading, but gotta do it another day.

[Enigma]

EOD1

Jibril

(9):

Emperor flippyNips

, RCEnigma, Sashaddin, Creature, profii, BuJaber, rosterfoster, 0verki11,

stan1ey

Vedith

(4): Nero Cain, Amor, Lycanfire, Enigma

D1 wagon:
Eyes without a face (6):

stan1ey

, Nero Cain, Enigma, RCEnigma, rosterfoster, profii
rosterfoster (3):

Vedith

, Eyes without a face, Sashaddin

EOD2

Emperor flippyNips

(8): Nero Cain, Creature, Eyes without a face, Succinct,

stan1ey

, Sashaddin, profii, Flapjack

D2 wagon
Creature (5): Amor, Enigma, Sashaddin, Lycanfire, profii
RCEnigma (4): 0verki11, BuJaber,

stan1ey

, RCEnigma

These are scum driven mislynches

Are you saying both jibrils wagon and Eyes wagon were scumdriven? Only my slot and Stanley are common votes on each day 1 wagon there and Stanley has flipped town with his partner on only one of those. I find it hard to believe scum avoid lynching eyes in favor of jibril.

I think this was part of the reason I made a connection between eyes and Bujaber in the first place.

I'm not saying the same scum are on both wagons, more likely they could split their votes up between the 4 of them plus they have day chat to coordinate
For me it would actually be more interesting to look at the differences between the two wagons rather than the intersections... (later)

[Enigma]

scum woulda needed 9 votes to lynch Eyes.

Eyes doesn't vote himself (prob)

I unvoted Eyes in 508 and profii unvotes in 552. The next unvote is 100 posts later.

Eyes without a face (4): stan1ey, Enigma, RCEnigma, rosterfoster

First we'd have to assume that all 4 of you are town wich lol nope.

Then you'd have to assume that all 4 scum are in

BuJaber
Nero Cain
Emperor flippyNips
Succinct
0verki11
Jibril
Sashaddin
Flapjack
Creature
Lycanfire
Vedith


again nope. I could kinda see scum being in Buj, lycan and Flapjack thought that would still me you or the other Enigma is scum. (or maybe roster, idk) But scum wasn't getting that wagon.

Unless you see Enigma/roster as partners, which is possible. I'd put 1 scum in that group of 4

I don't recall the reason for the flip but any built wagon would have gone through with or without scum help near deadline.

Unless eyes is scum?

[Enigma]

Not keen on the profii wagon, can we start a new one?

[Enigma]

5 lurkers and RCE?

Also I don't think enigma is scum. He's barely been trying to push like an agenda or anything. Also I think he'd push me more as scum. That last game we were scum together was very long and is fresh in my mind. I suspect in his also. We'll catch on to each other quick

If you are up to it, update of a read on me?

[Nero Cain]

no

[Enigma]

no what

[Nero Cain]

Not keen on the profii wagon, can we start a new one?

but for shits and giggles who do you want to wagon and why?