Newbie 594: (Game Over!)

[weilawei]

I also dislike Battousai's reason for vote: if weilawei is too busy to play then there's always the possibility for replacements.

I don't want to be replaced. I replaced in and I fully expect that I'll play my part in this game. Events causing downtime are inevitable, but I'm back and active.

[bird1111]

You string up BlackWolf. You then check his house. He is obviously a Mafia Roleblocker.

BlackWolf, Mafia Roleblocker, lynched Day 1.

Night 1 begins, choices due in 72 hours.

[bird1111]

You wake up to find Mr. Blonde, Townie, killed in the night.

Day 2 begins, with 7 alive it is 4 to lynch.

[zu_Faul]

'^^

I was

a bit

wrong Day 1 it seems.

[Mr. Blonde]

Auch.

[gorillaman]

During the night I made this:

BlackWolf Association List

62 - BW's first vote is on zu_Faul for a reason with which nobody agrees; could be looking for any weak case to get his distancing out the way early.
80 - gorillaman defends BW against tu quoque
109 - Nocmen unvotes BW
123/132 - BW defends Rickeon/Blonde on not posting original content
139 - gorillaman possibly trying to deflect attention away from BW
143 - Bat takes an opportunity to remind the town he was attacking BW, possibly so we didn't miss his careful distancing.
154 - Bat unvotes BW
157 - BW doesn't want to lynch Rickeon/Blonde
164 - BW defends gorillaman on 'not scumhunting' charge/Bat's meta
174 - zu_Faul leaves BW off his FoS list, despite being the most obvious/deserving candidate
189 - Blonde's post after replacing in is primarily critical of Bat, BW's main accuser
190 - Blonde's next post primarily critical of Nocmen, BW's other accuser
212 - weilawei jumps in to defend BW
217 - weilawei still defending BW/attacking his accuser
220 - weilawei suggests gorillaman/BW pair
222 - Nocmen defends BW/attacks his accuser
242 - Bat suggests weilawei/BW pair
251 - Blonde attacks BW's most prominent accuser again
254 - BW defends Nocmen
269 - BW backs off zu_Faul
291 - silence suggests zu_Faul/BW pair
296/299/310 - Blonde trying to pin zu_Faul to BW
298 - gorillaman defends BW from Blonde's vote
300/331 - zu_Faul doesn't buy the case against BW
310 - Blonde unvotes BW
333 - gorillaman unvotes BW
338/340 - BW taking direction from silence
352 - Bat unvotes BW, whom he had been calling scum for a while, in favour of an alternate wagon
361/370 - Blonde says BW's defensiveness is 'logical', gets a town vibe from him.
371 - BW buys weilawei's explanation of his absence

Wasn't made with the intention of building a case against any particular person.
I've only checked through it once, so no doubt I've both forgotten things I wanted to include, and totally missed things that other people have spotted easily.
Obviously Blonde's now shown to be town, but I've left him in for comparison.


If we have one, is there any reason why we shouldn't play follow the cop for as long as we can?

[Battousai]

VOTE: Weilawei

for attacking BW's accuser repeatedly, helping muddy the waters right after that with tu que or something, and wanting to help first time scum.

Not in danger of being lynched yet as only 1 scum left and your it.

Also, obviously if your cop and you investigated scum, tell us, and if not only defend the person you investigated if they are in danger of lynch. For now the rest of us should play like there isn't a cop (as thats the worst case scenerio)

[zu_Faul]

174 - zu_Faul leaves BW off his FoS list, despite being the most obvious/deserving candidate

I don't get why he was "the most obvious/deserving candidate".

[gorillaman]

I don't get how you can possibly not get that.

Vote: Rickeon

Just posting to point out that L-1, so I will NOT be voting for him.

unvote

If the scum is stupid enough to hammer now, let 'em.

I don't know whether all of you missed that he hasn't been on L-1 for some time. If you did I think it is possible that some of you tried to warn your scum partner not to lynch him and make themselves seem very scummy. If you did not miss it I don't know what you wanted to accomplish.
FOS: Battousai, Nocmen, Atticus

[zu_Faul]

"Hasn't benn" being the important part here. When BW posted, Rickeon still was at lynch -1.
I seem to have overlooked his post, because I checked only the posts after my unvote for people giving advice not to lynch Rickeon.

[gorillaman]

170 was after your unvote.

[weilawei]

Battousai, are you serious? "Tu que or something?" It's tu quoque. Please pay attention. It's not like we didn't cover the subject in depth.

Battousai's involvement with BlackWolf has been extremely suspect this game.

He attacks BW, unvotes, gets criticized by the late Mr. Blonde. Later he suggests BlackWolf and I, but then unvotes BlackWolf again.

Smells like he was trying to put some miles between BlackWolf and himself. And yes, I have attacked his accuser repeatedly. That would be you Battousai. I don't think you wanted to bus him--but fate doesn't always turn in your favor, does it?

[Nocmen]

I'm going to look through the thread for all associations with BlackWolf, and post my opinion. However, I am not going to base my whole reasons for finding someone scummy off those actions in general.

[Battousai]

First off, the person you were attacking that I was mainly refering to was gorillaman starting page 9. Tu que/ tu quoque, same difference, but at least you admit going in detail about it. I also noted that you went into the explaination of it with gorillaman as gorillaman was attacking BW.

Well, at least you agree that you wanted to help the scum and distracted the town with tu quoque.

Also my vote was on BW almost the entire length of the game, except when I voted to get Rickeon active or to vote you (who I said was his partner/ just as suspicious). Yes, I did want to put some distance between him and myself, but so would any other townie who is sure that someone is scum.

[Battousai]

Just a headsup, I'll have very limited access to the internet for the rest of today and the weekend due to graduation.

[zu_Faul]

170 was after your unvote.

I just reread page 7. I think I missed BlackWolf, because I was focused on L-1. Whenever someone vote that it triggered my awareness. BW didn't.

[zu_Faul]

Yes, I did want to put some distance between him and myself, but so would any other townie who is sure that someone is scum.

What the hell, no a townie would want to lynch scum.

Vote: Battousai

I think now it may be good if the cop claims so the doc can protect him at night. He should not put his results forward though.

[gorillaman]

With three wagons to choose from, where one vote could shift the lynch, and their power role in the firing line, I'd be astonished if the scum didn't do something to try and save BlackWolf. So the evidence should be out there

Also, obviously if your cop and you investigated scum, tell us, and if not only defend the person you investigated if they are in danger of lynch.

No, don't do that. The hypothetical cop should claim as soon as anyone's in danger of being lynched, not defend anyone, and not give away his innocent results. Then we go on a no lynch investigation parade until the doc dies/cop gets a guilty/we hit lylo.

[Atticus]

A.) We shouldn't be directing the cop.
B.) We should, indeed, be looking for connections to BW, but I'm not sure how good they'll be, considering his strange playstyle.

--

Anyway, I will probably be looking for connections to BlackWolf on a lazy basis, assuming eveyrone else will probably already be doing that, but I'm mostly still thinking about weilawei being scum.

IGMEOY: weilawei

[silence]

For now the rest of us should play like there isn't a cop (as thats the worst case scenerio)

Why should we play according to a worst case scenario?

"Hasn't benn" being the important part here. When BW posted, Rickeon still was at lynch -1.
I seem to have overlooked his post, because I checked only the posts after my unvote for people giving advice not to lynch Rickeon.

Shouldn't warning someone at L-1 be more significant? Also, why did you not try this defense yesterday instead of calling 'weakest accusation ever'?

We shouldn't be directing the cop.

Why not?

[bird1111]

Away from the 3rd to the 18th/19th. Will get someone to take over during my absence.

[Atticus]

We shouldn't be directing the cop.

Why not?

Because unless our cop is an idiot, he should know what to do, and because there's still some mafia in the game, we shouldn't give them opportunities which will commonly include the cop.

[gorillaman]

vote: Battousai

Mainly for the last minute unvote of BW, for a peculiar reason.

Because unless our cop is an idiot, he should know what to do, and because there's still some mafia in the game, we shouldn't give them opportunities which will commonly include the cop.

Maybe our cop is an idiot. I don't see any harm in making sure the cop understands what they should be doing, short of telling them whom to investigate. In one of our two possible setups, if played correctly, we've all but already won the game; that deserves discussion.

[Nocmen]

Well, we don't know if a cop actually exists or not. But if he does, remember you should not claim unless you have a guilty result.

[gorillaman]

See, that's where I disagree. If there's a cop there's a doc; cop should claim today to get night protection.