I replaced Nanosauromo...icemanE wrote:Gosh darn, I've never seen a replacement turn my opinion of the original player around so quickly. I don't particularly remember Cake doing anything all that scummy - I do remember that he was the first person I was even remotely suspicious of bu that was very early in the game. Looks like its time for a reread, I'll probably be done in a few hours, maybe later tonight.
Well unfortunately, replacing Nano makes a pre-replacement read pretty much impossible, since there's nearly nothing to read. The above quote is all I could find worth noting.Nano wrote:Hi guys, sorry for not posting much yet.
Reading over the game, Zeek really jumps out at me as being scummy.
I know you aren't him, but your partner's only real post was infinitely less reasoned and more "opportunistic" than my case against Zeek - I'd say the only thing opportunistic about my suspicion of Zeek is that I took the opportunity to be suspicious of him because he was incredibly suspicious?Sir T wrote:Iceman, I thing you are scum due to the nature of your arguments with Zeek on D1. Your case on him was based on a number of non scummy goof ups by Zeek. It was too opportunistic.
Still working on my analysis. FWIW, GS and Iceman have my FoS, but I looked back at the last few pages, and see we're all claiming not-doc, so I indeed am not.TDC wrote:Shouldn't that be "With 11 alive, 6 will lynch"? You're at L-2 then..
Still waiting for Celebloki and Surye to say whether either of them is the doc.
No, it's based on early play, like I said, I'm not done yet.Johoohno wrote:Is your FoS on GS to be understood as doubting his claim?Surye wrote:Still working on my analysis. FWIW, GS and Iceman have my FoS, but I looked back at the last few pages, and see we're all claiming not-doc, so I indeed am not.
Yes, I understand that but how does that disprove my claim for today? It seems like people are waiting to see if someone counter claims, but I'm wondering how are people going to know who is truthful and who is lying?FaerieLord wrote:Because if you turn out doc, we lynch him tomorrow.
It's that simple
Hmm... Grease, this is really shaking my confidence in the truth behind your claim...Greasy Spot wrote:Yes, I understand that but how does that disprove my claim for today? It seems like people are waiting to see if someone counter claims, but I'm wondering how are people going to know who is truthful and who is lying?FaerieLord wrote:Because if you turn out doc, we lynch him tomorrow.
It's that simple
With only one more person left to claim he could claim the same as me since I already said what I did. How are you to know if he is lying? Well technically the only way you will know is if he survives the NK and I don't. Other than that he can say what he wants and your at his mercy. You can't disprove him and he gets to survive another lynch (not saying celeb would be the lynch). You are putting too much faith in his words. If he claims doc and you lynch me then you are at a disadvantage going into the night and the next day. If you concentrate on mafia during the day they will most likely target me at night so as to not risk another successful protection.Thestatusquo wrote:In general, a counter claim is more likely to be believed than the original claim, mainly because there is less motivation for a scum to counterclaim out of the blue than there is for them to try to fake claim to save their skin; the one for one trade just isnt worth it for them. Therefore scum are more likely to be the one fake claiming than the one counterclaiming.
Couple that with the fact that you were the most suspicious before you claimed, and they were not, I think it's pretty safe to say that any counter claim comes along and it will be you we're hanging.
How so?icemanE wrote:Hmm... Grease, this is really shaking my confidence in the truth behind your claim...Greasy Spot wrote:Yes, I understand that but how does that disprove my claim for today? It seems like people are waiting to see if someone counter claims, but I'm wondering how are people going to know who is truthful and who is lying?FaerieLord wrote:Because if you turn out doc, we lynch him tomorrow.
It's that simple
Right, but you have no reason to worry unless someone CC's, which no one has yet. Everyone is claiming not-doc in order to verify you as doc but you're still worried, which makes me uneasy.Greasy Spot wrote:No I worried that everyone else is putting too much emphasis on the CC. They have no way of knowing for sure till the dust settles.icemanE wrote:These questions you're asking make is seem like you're worried about someone CC'ing, which you shouldn't be if you're really doc.GS wrote: How so?
