Mafia 76: Desperate - Game over!

[armlx]

Hmm, I'm starting to rethink the Goat must be SK thing. I think SL is much more likely now.

[The Goat]

assuming this is true my money is on goat then, since we are talkin about clingin to roles my role has been abandond twice, goat been around since the begining i think, and his posting has dropped alot lately

Again...very busy. Also moderately drunk. Will post more SOON. I am a vanilla townie, but of course anyone other than vanilla townie would probably say the exact same thing at this point, so...

:shrug:

What really sucks is that I'm hideously concerned that MattS is a mafia goon...but statistically, he's not the play.

[armlx]

The unneeded reassertion of your claim is noted.

[springlullaby]

Right, where I stand.

Armlx - confirmed town

Matt_S - Not the SK/Mafia Roleblocker

TSN - probably not scum as per andersonw

The Goat - SK/RB
killa seven (MARK 2) - SK/RB

springlullaby - me, town

Lynching the goon is not a good choice because the SK would want to get rid of the concurence.

Given that I think the chance for andersonw being scum are low, my best bet are either The Goat or Killa for lynch. I think Killa is the SK because he was pushing for the goon lynch instead of the RB lynch, so I'm up for lynching The Goat. What do you think?

[armlx]

springlullaby - me, town

Nice list besides that.

[Matt_S]

Deep down, I'm still thinking killa seven's the roleblocker. Backing a goon lynch isn't good for the serial killer, since then the roleblocker can potentially block him. However, the roleblocker would really want to stay alive and direct the attention away from him.

I have an idea. Serial killer, claim so we don't lynch you.

[killa seven]

ive narrowed it down to..
goat = RB
spring = SK
matt = goon (if there is a goon)

the goat not defending himself is getting frustrating when armlx accused him of being the sk he barely defended just saying "trust me i would have killed you" and his responce to thre rb accusation was pathetic, come on now ive re read the game, goat was really active and now hes ghost. same with spring but he gives me sk vibes.

[killa seven]

oh yea

Vote The Goat

Try defending yourself please.
and if the SK claims that will help. not a bad suggestion by matt s (even tho it benefits the goon.)

[armlx]

I have an idea. Serial killer, claim so we don't lynch you.

O I C WUT U DID THERE.

I would vote for Goat now under non-lylo circumstances.

[The Goat]

ive narrowed it down to..
goat = RB
spring = SK
matt = goon (if there is a goon)

the goat not defending himself is getting frustrating when armlx accused him of being the sk he barely defended just saying "trust me i would have killed you" and his

responce to thre rb accusation

was pathetic, come on now ive re read the game, goat was really active and now hes ghost. same with spring but he gives me sk vibes.

Well HI there.

I said the following:

1) I was working all weekend.
2) I would post more SOON. I said that on SATURDAY.

Now...I respect your desire for me to defend myself. HOWEVER...please show me my response to being accused of being a roleblocker. Not only do I not recall responding to any such response, I don't even recall anyone other than you even suggesting I might BE a RB...and you suggested it immediately before the quoted post. How that qualifies as a "pathetic defense" is beyond me. It reeks of a really lousy and desperate attempt to start get a train going.

Now...as to my "defense" - I don't really have one other than "I'm a vanilla townie." While I'd love to make something up that's more exciting, it wouldn't be helpful or truthful (although it will apparently give armix more to talk about as an unnecessary affirmation.)

My semi-humble opinion is as follows:

MattS: Goon
killa: RB
Springlullaby: SK

vote killa seven

[The Goat]

er....that was supposed to be "responding to any such accusation."

[armlx]

So, all these scenarios sound the same

SL = SK
Matt_S = mafiate
K7/Goat = RB

I'm trying to figure the penalty for a mislynch here. I think its that we end up at 2-1-1 in mafia's favor, which is no one wins at best.

[Matt_S]

Assuming a two man mafia remaining, lynching a townie puts us at 2-2-1 going into night, which is even more dependent on crosskills than we'd hope for. At best, we'd go to the next day with two townies and a mafia of some sort.

Lynching the serial killer screws us. We go into the night 3-2, and the next day it's 2-2. We really don't want to do this, obviously. This is still assuming a two man mafia.

Lynching a goon puts us in an interesting situation. If the RB can roleblock and kill, then the worst case scenario puts us at 2-1-1, where we're screwed. If the RB can only do one, we either go into the day 3-1-1 with no deaths or we get two nightkills and hope for crosskills.

[TheSweatpantsNinja]

Based on that post, I am increasingly confident that matt_s is our goon.

[Matt_S]

Based on that post, I am increasingly confident that matt_s is our goon.

I'm curious how you came to that conclusion.

[TheSweatpantsNinja]

I'm glad you asked: (being semi-confirmed is fun!) Your post about endgame scenarios relies on a key assumption, which is that the roleblocker knows who the serial killer is.

So, how about:

K7: SK
Matt_S: Goon
Goat: RB

Unvote, vote TheGoat.

[Matt_S]

I'm glad you asked: (being semi-confirmed is fun!) Your post about endgame scenarios relies on a key assumption, which is that the roleblocker knows who the serial killer is.

The roleblocker knows I'm not the serial killer and knows armlx isn't the serial killer, as well as knowing he himself is not the serial killer. Considering that the roleblocker wasn't required to block Kilroy, he was free to try and block one of the possible serial killers. Besides, how does that assumption point to me being a goon?

[Matt_S]

I didn't complete my though before posting. He also knows his possible goon isn't the serial killer, which leaves him with two possible serial killers. The one he blocked last night obviously isn't the serial killer. This leaves him with only one possible serial killer.

[armlx]

Vote Goat

Final Answer.

[Matt_S]

I oppose this wagon.

[armlx]

I oppose this wagon.

You are the goon, you would.

[Matt_S]

I don't know why I even bother.

[armlx]

Listen, either you are a goon opposing the lynch of a RB, or you aren't a goon and I trust my opinion of Goat very strongly now AND there prob isnt a goon and we have breathing room.

[Matt_S]

Well then, do you want me to hammer?

[armlx]

Not at this point in time. Waiting on others to come back and say stuff.

Actually, as we are waiting at L-1 I'll

Unvote, Pseudovote Goat

to be safe.