Dynamite Stick Mafia! GAME OVER

skitzer · Post Post #650 (ISO) » Mon Jun 02, 2008 8:28 am

Why flameaxe? That doesn't make sense to me.

I think a much better choice would be elmo or elvis. I'd rather wait to replace Marmalade than blow her/him up.

Flameaxe · Post Post #651 (ISO) » Mon Jun 02, 2008 8:43 am

@Nabnab: Whatever, if you really want to blow up a townie that badly. I'll be here to tell you "I told you so" after the game.

@Skitz: Because he just is...I don't really see why you think he's that scummy. This is not Elmoscum. I've played with ElmoScum, this isn't it.

Flameaxe · Post Post #652 (ISO) » Mon Jun 02, 2008 8:46 am

Flameaxe wrote:@Nabnab: Whatever, if you really want to blow up a townie that badly. I'll be here to tell you "I told you so" after the game.

@Skitz: Because he just is...I don't really see why you think he's that scummy. This is not Elmoscum. I've played with ElmoScum, this isn't it.

Oh, read your post wrong. Nevermind.

PokerFace · Post Post #653 (ISO) » Mon Jun 02, 2008 8:49 am

I am not big on Flameaxe dieing because I've seen him be lazy townie like this quite recently. Check Loser Mafia.

Elmo's lurking/lazyiness? is something I can't place. I can't see it being a way of determining his alignment one way or the other so I consider it a null issue in determining his allignment. If flameaxe knows more about that issue I'd be glad to here it.

I see absolutly no reason to blow Elvis up. I stated earlier that if I'm dead I'd like her or someone else to volunteer to do the vote counting. I've seen her as being town for pretty much the entire game. Elmo just randomly saying she needs to go off with no case on her looks very OMGUS.

FOS: Skitzer

As far as who would want me to get elmo its simply a conspiracy theory that is nagging me in the back of my head. A crazy idea where skitzer, CES, and Yos would want me to do that. Possibly paranoia but if I place the exact reason that vibe has crossed my mind I'll bring it up.

Something I think people should keep in mind, on the bizarre chance we mislynch today and it is not game over, then that means there are 3 scum (2 would be a mockery of anything remotly balanced). So Yosarian should be put under heavy pressure because nobody would have guessed there were three scum and his slip would be incredibly telling.

PokerFace · Post Post #654 (ISO) » Mon Jun 02, 2008 9:18 am

PokerFace wrote:I am not big on Flameaxe dieing because I've seen him be lazy townie like this quite recently. Check Loser Mafia.

Actually I should probably clarify this better. In Loser mafia he didn't lurk like he has been doing here but he was exceptionally lazy when you consider the fact that he never really scumhunted at all in that game. Read his posts in that game yourself. If you still want to get him for lurking I prefer he just stepped it up or got replaced instead of going boom.

Cogito Ergo Scum · Post Post #655 (ISO) » Mon Jun 02, 2008 9:53 am

I'm back.

Deadline's soon, but I haven't made my mind up about today's dynamitees yet. I'll do a quick reread of the last pages.

PokerFace · Post Post #656 (ISO) » Mon Jun 02, 2008 10:01 am

Mr Stoofer wrote:
Hi all, I am back.

The deadline will hit in 15 hours and 27 minutes from this post.

^Made 8:33 am in my timezone (USA-EST which is GMT-4 during the summer)

That would make deadline be at midnight in my timezone so I should easily be awake around 11pm or 11:30pm. I usually don't go to bed til way after that anyway. If someone else has not already gone off I'll pick who I'm taking with me based on what the town has been saying or what I myself have already said. It should be obvious to you all by now who I've been considering.

Cogito Ergo Scum · Post Post #657 (ISO) » Mon Jun 02, 2008 10:06 am

K,

I just can't read Flameaxe because he hardly ever plays. However, I wouldn't want to see him die.

Skitzer and Yos are confirmed town in my eyes, so I don't want them to (be) blow(n) up, either.

Pokerface's latest posts have been good, actually.

Unvote

. I don't want PokerFace to be blown up, but it might be wise if he blows up someone himself. I wouldn't object to that.

I suggest PF blows someone up unless NabNab checks in in time.

Elmo · Post Post #658 (ISO) » Mon Jun 02, 2008 10:09 am

PokerFace wrote:I got a feeling "somebody wants" me to kill Elmo.

The lack of heat on me surprises me. It seems the scum should have tried to drive a wagon on me by now.. for a while now, I've had the feeling that I'm being kept alive for some reason; perhaps I'm being pessimistic about the amount of suspicion towards me, or they're pessimistic about getting me lynched? I don't know.

I can think of semi-decent reasons not to kill everyone except Yos and Erg0. Erg0 in particular has been under the radar for a lot of the game. I do think that it's unlikely that CES and Yos are both scum. Hmm. Narrows it down, actually.

Flameaxe: I'm curious how I seem different to you.
CES: Why do you consider Yos confirmed town? That seems rather strong.

Cogito Ergo Scum · Post Post #659 (ISO) » Mon Jun 02, 2008 10:12 am

Confirmed town is a little too strong, maybe, yes. I'll change that too 'townish enough not to be dynamited today'. The reason for that is his behavior around the end of day 5. People's behavior can be analysed much better when they're in immediate danger of dying.

NabakovNabakov · Post Post #660 (ISO) » Mon Jun 02, 2008 11:48 am

PokerFace wrote:
Mr Stoofer wrote:
Hi all, I am back.

The deadline will hit in 15 hours and 27 minutes from this post.
^Made 8:33 am in my timezone (USA-EST which is GMT-4 during the summer)

That would make deadline be at midnight in my timezone so I should easily be awake around 11pm or 11:30pm. I usually don't go to bed til way after that anyway. If someone else has not already gone off I'll pick who I'm taking with me based on what the town has been saying or what I myself have already said. It should be obvious to you all by now who I've been considering.

This trumps my bedtime, but I'm aprehensive about tuning out and assuming PF will do the deed.

@PF: If you want to be the one to dynamite, make your choice before 11 pm.

Overwhelming opposition to a Flameaxe dynamite has changed my course, but to where? It seems nobody is worthy of dynamiting (in the opinion of the town anyway)

PokerFace · Post Post #661 (ISO) » Mon Jun 02, 2008 1:10 pm

Odd that's not what I expected CEScum to do. Is he unvoting me out of fear or are those comments genuine I'll have to think on that. Him saying my last posts were good despie them saying I am probably going to blow him up comes off as wierd.

It is currently just after 8pm in my timezone (8:08).

Deadline is in four hours I'll go off in about three if someone don't beat me to it.

Can't remember if NabNab ever mentioned what time zone he is in at the momment. If you are on the West Coast of USA, 11pm my time zone would be 8pm yours. If you are not in america I got no clue what time zone you would be in or what time deadline would be in relation to you. If you got a target, feel like being galant, or if you are genuinly aprehensive about having me do it then you can over step me. Otherwise I'll do my best to see you guys in about 3 hours. People should still be voting and posting right now as the end of the day nears.

elvis_knits · Post Post #662 (ISO) » Mon Jun 02, 2008 1:12 pm

Cogito Ergo Scum wrote: Skitzer and Yos are confirmed town in my eyes, so I don't want them to (be) blow(n) up, either.

I don't see why either of these are confirmed.

PokerFace · Post Post #663 (ISO) » Mon Jun 02, 2008 1:21 pm

Check that did math wrong. In summer daylight saving time

8:33am site clock is really 9:33am my time zone so
7:20pm site clock is really 8:20pm my timezone.

8:33am + 15h = 11:33pm + 27 minutes = 12am site clock which would be 1am my time zone. I got more time then I thinking.

Deadline is really 4 hours and 40 minutes from now.

At any rate going with 2 hour leeway is better than 1 so I'll still see you guys in about 3 hours anyway unless nabnab/elmo goes off ahead of time. Still leaning toward hitting CEScum. I'll at least be giving him some time to do something more if I still want to take him out later. Still would prefer elmo going off over NabNab since Elmo is more suspicious. I'll post another copy of the vote count should I feel its necessary. I'm going to look at CEScum in isolation shortly

Elmo · Post Post #664 (ISO) » Mon Jun 02, 2008 1:47 pm

Look at post 645 again? I make it about an hour and ten minutes until deadline.

Elmo · Post Post #665 (ISO) » Mon Jun 02, 2008 1:49 pm

No, wait. You're right, scratch that.

Erg0 · Post Post #666 (ISO) » Mon Jun 02, 2008 2:41 pm

Sorry, I'm being useless. CES is a good bet, in my opinion. I'm a little iffy on Yos, but I think CES is marginally more likely to be scum. In turn, if CES is scum then I think skitzer has a decent chance of being scum also.

Elmo · Post Post #667 (ISO) » Mon Jun 02, 2008 2:47 pm

Reasons, or I kill you.

Erg0 · Post Post #668 (ISO) » Mon Jun 02, 2008 2:53 pm

More or less what I said in my previous post (a week or so ago) - Surye's play leads me to think that one of Yos and CES is scum, and I've found Yos more actively pro-town in his play throughout the game. If not for the amount of attention that he's been given by other players, I'd probably have Yos in my "obvtown" brainspace by now.

PokerFace · Post Post #669 (ISO) » Mon Jun 02, 2008 2:54 pm

I lean towards agreeing with Erg0's recent postings. i'll say so why shortly working on big post. Elmo should be giving reasons why he thought about killing Yosarian earlier. Pot calling kettle black scenario.

PokerFace · Post Post #670 (ISO) » Mon Jun 02, 2008 2:57 pm

snarthed-ninjaed
which ever it is.

And I actually think erg0 may have given more reasons for certain thoughts than Elmo has been doing. Understand though that I am not leaning on killing elmo at this moment. more on that later big post on way

PokerFace · Post Post #671 (ISO) » Mon Jun 02, 2008 3:28 pm

some

not all of these Yosarian (basically day 4 stuff or 2-4 links here) He mentions suspicions of Surye, but does not go greatly in depth. He does not go too far in depth as to why he suspects him seems like he is just agreeing with the group.

Here are all posts where CEScum mentions Surye before today
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 90#1019490
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 66#1028566
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 58#1040658
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 86#1046486
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 66#1046666
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 01#1053201
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 58#1055458
He seems to always believe Yosarian is scumier and stays primarily focused on Yosarian. He didn't really say much on why he personally thought Surye was scum ever. Could argue that there has perhaps been some tunnel vision between Yos and CEScum over the course of the game when wagons were on them and they were atacking each other.

I'd be willing to bet at least 1 of them, possibly both of them is scum with Surye. Got to get it right the first time to make sure this game stays alive. Yos hasn't posted in awhile I kinda thought he'd weigh in some before deadline. I think he has been online today. If he is lurking that would be for fail.

I am actually starting to consider the scum group existing among the players CEScum, Yosarian, perhaps Skitzer for some recent comments from CEScum. It should be noted that both of them made comments about Surye's death that seemed to portray joy. I have trouble thinking they are really joyful. If I were to stake alot on the vibe of CEScum and skitzer wanting me to hit Elmo. Evidence for that would be Skitzer's case on Elmo and CEScum's earlier colored scum listings. Yosarian quickly made a triple post and mentioned elmo earlier i would he woulkd chip in more on that matter. Marmalade is another possibility for scum but more so only if Yosarian is in the group.

If Elmo is scum, the town would get little info from his death and have trouble finding other scum so it may be best i take out one of CEScum of Yosarian. I think Yosarian pushed more on Surye going boom then CEScum did. Only thing that favors me taking out Yosarian over CEScum would be the fact that CEScum is inline for enforcership. If you are reading this NabNab you perhaps should name a second enforcer because I think i will be hitting CEScum. 11pm is less than an hour from now if you or anyone gots something to say you better do it now. I may wait and give you alittle time but I will definatly make the kill before there is only 1 hour left. If there is anyone out there that remotly thinks I'm bluffing you should realize that my name is Pokerface for good reason. I don't bluff.

For shits and giggles to see who lady luck favors I hit
1=Yos
2=CEScum

Original Roll String: 1d2

1 2-Sided Dice: (1) = 1

I will of course listen to myself over lady luck anyday so keep that in mind.

<<A little bit of power is going to my dead and I am sober.

Posting vote count for the hell of it shortly

PokerFace · Post Post #672 (ISO) » Mon Jun 02, 2008 3:35 pm

Odd preview had that as a 2 and the submission sent it to 1. Oh well I still favor my own judgment over dice anyway. Though it was meant as a joke for fun, it could most likely bite me in my ass if I am arround tomorrow and thus would harm the town as well. I would definatly perfer I go off over NabNab today.

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Vote Count info of Day 6:

Cogito Ergo Scum - 1(PokerFace)
Marmalade - 1(NabNab)
NabNab - 1(Yosarian2)
Elmo - 1(Skitzer)
Skitzer - 1(Elvis)

Not Voting - (Elmo, Cogito Ergo Scum, Elvis, Erg0, FlameAxe, Marmalade)

10 people alive so it should be 6 votes needed
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People lit: Me, NabNab, Elmo

*If I missed anything please correct me.*

Elmo · Post Post #673 (ISO) » Mon Jun 02, 2008 3:51 pm

I'm trying to estimate whether it's outright better that I die rather than PokerFace. Currently thinking yes. Opinions?

PokerFace · Post Post #674 (ISO) » Mon Jun 02, 2008 3:57 pm

So you actually want to kill someone? I'd obvious prefered I could play the game longer since I'm having too much fun but I best get myself in check because that dice joke thing probably went to far.

Who and why do you want to kill them, Elmo?
Any particular reason you want to go off? Worried about suspicions on you, bored/lazy with game or is there another reason I not considering. I'll be online until I do go off or someone else does it.