Mini 578 - Mistery at Montescuro - Game Over!

[Albert B. Rampage]

Oh. So you wouldn't mind voting Macavenger.

[PyroDwarf]

sorry guys, I went on vacation. This is getting to be a little adavnced for me. This is the first game i got in after i was killed N1 in my newb game. I've never been in an endgame, let alone lyol.
Abr, do you really think replacing me would advance the game?it seemd to slow down as it is, and you want some one to come in and you'll have to wait for them to get caught up. I can re read all I want, but im not sure I know what to look for.
[quote=Macavenger]Assumption for some later analysis: PyroDwarf is scum.

Summary: Very little scumhunting, lots of shifts of suspicion in order to align with popular wagons and subtly push them. Avoids taking firm stands on many issues where possible. Attacks players a lot, but asks few questions, doesn't vote a lot. Mentions PyroDwarf only once, distancing a bit when Guardian is attacking him. Does not mention Yosarian at all, or at least not in any significant context. Ends the day coasting to a probable Near lynch with his vote sitting there for a while.
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i think that one of the instances of my name should be replaced with some one else's, no?

[Albert B. Rampage]

A replacement is not going to need to read the game.

Confirmed town: Albert, Mike.

You do the math.

[PyroDwarf]

what makes them confirmed? because you say so? because near played so well before you took over? because guardian investigated mike? what about joudas then?

[Albert B. Rampage]

You're just not a very smart guy, Pyro. If you were, you would vote Macavenger or Joudas, and not waste time with the only guy who believes you are town.

[PyroDwarf]

im sorry Al, i just dont like your posting style. You need, like, an attitude adjustment or something.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Do you want to win or do you want to hate on me ?

[Albert B. Rampage]

Maybe mafia is too much for you to handle, dwarf. I suggest tetris.

[mikeburnfire]

Pyro, ABR speaks the truth, even though he can be an ass about it. The scum are among you, Joudas, and Mac. There's no doubt in out minds. Convince me you're not scum with Mac, which is where I lean.

[Albert B. Rampage]

As an alternative, Pong is also a good choice.

[Joudas]

Oh. So you wouldn't mind voting Macavenger.

I'd much rather vote Pyro. I'm much more certain about him then Mac.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Oh. So you wouldn't mind voting Macavenger.

I'd much rather vote Pyro. I'm much more certain about him then Mac.

If Near and me are probable townies, then Macavenger is the obvious lynch. Unless you suspect Mike ?

[Joudas]

How does that make Macavenger the obvious lynch? I'd say there's as big a possability that Mike is scum as there is that Mac is town, which while small, is greater then 0, which is what I'd say the probability of Pyro being town is.

[Albert B. Rampage]

A confusing way to say that Macavenger is equal to Mike in terms of scumminess.

[Joudas]

No.

There may be, say, a 10% chance that Mike is scum. There may be, by this example, a 10% chance that Mac is town. There is, by my opinion, a 0% chance that Pyro is town. Apply these numbers to my above post. Then apply them to yours, and you will be forced through the awesome power of logix to deduce that 10% != 50% and therefore your analysis of my statement is inaccurate.

[Albert B. Rampage]

So there's a 10% chance that Mike is scum, a 90% chance that Mac is scum, and a 100% chance that Pyro is scum(by your opinion). Correct ?

[Joudas]

10% was just an example number, so let's say there's some low but greater than 0% chance Mike is scum, a high but less then 100% chance that Mac is scum, and a 100% chance that Mac is scum, in my opinion. Where are you going with this line of questioning?

[Joudas]

err, EBWOP: 100% chance that Pyro is scum*

[Albert B. Rampage]

and a 100% chance that Mac is scum, in my opinion

I <3 NYC.

You know what else I love ?

Freudian slips.

[PyroDwarf]

fuck you Im out, I'l go play tetris. So suck a cock.

[Claus]

:sigh:

Thanks, Albie and Pyro. Luckly, I had a replacement in the sleeve.

Killah Seven replaces Pyrodwarf, effective immediately.

[Macavenger]

MBF, can you elaborate a bit on why you think Pyro and Joudas to be not scum with each other? I went back through Pyro's posts looking for stuff about him being threatened by Joudas, and I'm not really finding a lot. My guess is that you're referring to this section of posts:

Maybe we could have DBE and guardian target the same person tonight. They would either be lying scum, or we could confirm guardian, assuming DBE is a watcher.

Pyro makes a wonderful scummy suggestion. Get's FoS'd and such by Joudas, then...

@joudas: I responded to your allegations. As i said, I just wanted to be sure guardian was the cop. I thought he was scummy up untill the point he claimed. I suppose old suspicions die hard. I wasn't trying to direct night choices in any way, I guess I was still under the impression that he was scum.

Later..

@joudas: I see what you mean. I didn't think this plan thru, obv. I just wanted a way to verify that guardian is indeed the cop before he goes and leads the town right down the drain. My reasoning with that plan was If guardian is lying, he wouldnt target playerX and dbe would, she would say "hey guardian never showed up." more in a min

That's about all I could find of him defending against Joudas, really. The exchange looks more like Pyro proposing good nightchoices for scum, Joudas calling him on it to distance and look town, and PyroDwarf trying to deflect suspicion. I don't really see much being threatened in there particularly. Also worth noting that bussing Pyro wouldn't have been a bad play at that point, IMO - he was lurky and a bit scummy, and Yos and Joudas were both still alive at the time and neither was under any real suspicion.

Is there something else I'm missing here as to why you think they can't be scum together? As far as I can tell, you think Joudas looks scummy, you think Pyro looks scummy, you think they're not together because ?, you think I look townie, but you think I'm scum because they're not together (?), and because I haven't interacted with the scum to speak of (which can also be caused by otal failure of scumhunting).

Fill in the blanks for me here? Cause I'm not really seeing why they can't be scum together in your perspective.

[killa seven]

confirmin i will re read a little

[Macavenger]

Welcome killa.

Please help me out here by confirming Joudas is your scumbuddy, thanks.

[killa seven]

sorry not scum, i will read and probably vote tommorrow