Mushroom Kingdom Mafia (Game over!)

[FaerieLord]

I claim confirmation

[FaerieLord]

That leaves two

[FaerieLord]

t's not 100% assured, but usually mafia are allowed to talk during day start confirm phases (ie. every newbie game atm). I would think that Alabaska as scum would have at least noticed if his inbox started filling with messages from random people.

Alabaska could have also forgotten to confirm, or thought that he/she had already confirmed, or confirmed via pm and the mod accepted it but then double checked and posted it here...

Maybe, just maybe my meta is to act dumb so that you gusy will think I am acting dumb but I am actually using reverse psychology and am actually dumb but because you think I am acting dumb you are suspiciosu and lynch me the 1st day and discover that I am an innocent Townie and you can all go fuck yourselves for getting youselves closer to losing, how's that?

Now repeat that in English

Also,

Vote: Armlx

just because I can.

[FaerieLord]

You again. I don't. But if he doesn't use it on gimbo, which is what I want to happen, then I'll go after him tomorrow.

1)Some people might not be able to use a fireflower
2)1 coin isn't enough for a fireflower

Not a really good move

[FaerieLord]

And yeah, Gimbo, even mafia will give away coins because of that. Only stubborn people on both sides won't.

What he said. This will create such a big headache because of people "not trusting someone" or because people "have a plan" or because of something else that their mind beckons them to do. Refusing to pool, will be a null-tell.

That said, if it where to happen, I'd pool. But I'd rather have everyone do his own thing

[FaerieLord]

Jesus, what the hell was that. I'd rather he didn't claim at all. As if anyone in his right mind would want to shoot gimbo tonight

[FaerieLord]

Therefore, I decided to reveal rather than hide my ability, sicne revealing doesn't really increase my target IF it works out.

Actually, it does increase you as a target

FaerieLord, claiming doesn't hurt me in this case, because this is a one-shot ability. If I don't claim, there is 24 players, what are the odds that the mafia won't choose to NK me or than 1 of the townies might NK me?

Mafia don't shoot randomly you know, they shoot the best players. I don't mean this as an offence towards you, but you're surely not the best player in here. Had you not claimed, they would've most probably not shot you.

But I do not agree with pooling our coins right now as TSN suggested. I do agree with giving coins to someone seen as protown when you die though.

Before you die I assume? Since the last person on your wagon takes the coins.

Also, I hate the fact that Gimbo outed a role that would've been pretty powerful. But we'll just have to live with it now.

I also

Unvote

[FaerieLord]

In another news, I don't see nearly enough coin-claiming.

I've seen enough. I don't want to see any coin claiming.

I'm not liking farside's paranoia either, but I don't see it as a scum tell, just as a misguided move.

[FaerieLord]

Isn't it like a good idea to wait for Surye before going all out onto Cream?

[FaerieLord]

because right now. It's either Cream or TSN, and its not a rash thing. I've had my eyes on both, but TSN just asked for a coin claim, even though we've already mentioned how that is dangerous and eh also mentioend so solution that doesn't seem to be helpful in my eyes.

Err...just asked? He asked for a coin claim before you voted Cream. That doesn't qualify as just asked.

Gah, gimbo, I can't help people who don't want to be helped. You don't see the benefit in the town getting a bunch of investigations?

I do see the benefit, but I also see the disadvantage of leaving everyone coinless. Pooling all our coins will render everyone that doesn't have a coin useless, but this way everyone could potentially be a threat.

[FaerieLord]

And the benefit of having "everyone potentially being a threat. . . is?"

You mean apart from scum not knowing where to hit?

TheSweatpantsNinja is town BTW. I dont understand the reasoning in this wagon. "I dont agree with him, yes that totally makes him scum"

I agree with this. I don't think TSPN is scum, I think he is just wrong.

[FaerieLord]

*yawn*. What have I done? I'm in no way concerned about getting lynched, as Gimbo will revive me, but seriously, what I have done wrong? And of course, once Gimbo revives me I'll be nightkilled quicker than you can say 'night-kill' so it may be preferable not to get lynched.

You seem pretty concerned if you ask me!

[FaerieLord]

If it is just that, why did you feel the need to *yawn* and post indifferently to Armlx's comment? You seem pretty worried that you are going to get lynched, though you post as though it's nothing.

[FaerieLord]

Then lynch me then! I'd rather not get lynched, because I'll be primary mafia target, and I also want to know what I've done that's scummy, so I can improve my play in future games. That's why I'm concerned about getting lynched.

I don't know what the whole case against you is, other than the opportunistic vote, but I can say that if I were finding you suspicious, the last few posts wouldn't have changed my idea as they give up a vibe of indifference and right afterwords over-defensiveness. Were I to give you advice on future games I'd say don't try to shrug off an attack again. It looks bad.

[FaerieLord]

That was one of the worst plays I've seen in a while Rogue.

My reasons for hopping onto TSPN were to see what the reactions would be...

After you admit to something like that, what is the point of staying on the wagon.

Then why did you talk about cream in the post you unvoted on? Seems inconsistent

[FaerieLord]

Come on, if I'm confirmed, then no matter what role I am, scum will kill me. Being confirmed makes you as powerful as any non-proven power role in the game (though they have the potential to become more powerful if they are confirmed)

But not lynching you because scum will kill you is a bad idea because who ever we kill, the same thing will happen (assuming town, obv)

[FaerieLord]

See you guys? If I hadn't out myself, this would've been one of those slow games that last 1 month each day with only like 8 pages. Now we have like 15+ and its all becuz I bring excitement whereever I go, don't you agree Faerie (in Trash Talk)?

No I don't. You need to calm the fuck down before people start policy lynching you

[FaerieLord]

It's coming from a previous game armlx. See Mini 584.

[FaerieLord]

The farside vote? Thats what I'm talking about. Not the replacement comment.

Was referring to the replacement comment

maybe that's because I'm being stupid, in fact, it probably is.

You know, I hate such comments. They are unproductive and appeal to emotions.

[FaerieLord]

No, mafiassk is a person who rarely posts. See 584. Replaced after a couple of pages as well because "He didn't find the game interesting."

Yeah, pretty frustrating

[FaerieLord]

We'll be waiting for the reads / rereads

[FaerieLord]

Cream, the town wants you dead. So no, it is not being opportunistic. It is following the town's lead. Which in this case is a null-tell

[FaerieLord]

FOS FL for making Cream's lynch look like a foregone decision, especially while not voting for him.

Ehh, I rarely vote. See other games. Also, happy b/day

As for the comment, there aren't 24 people playing right now.

[FaerieLord]

Ehh, I rarely vote.

I realize, but pushing a lynch without voting is not a good thing.

I wasn't pushing. I just thought that he was closer to a lynch than he apparently is.

[FaerieLord]

Ironic no? Rogue just came to vote me, when he barely posted because he was under pressure.

As for that, I already said that I thought there was more to that bandwagon than there apparently is. I also, pushed it without voting because I rarely vote, it's that simple. I'm not even for a cream lynch, I'd honestly rather have more time to discuss, but I thought he was almost next to claim range

[FaerieLord]

I should start a count. The number of people whom guess my sex

right

I'm not blaming anyone though .

[FaerieLord]

I did!

Yes but you have played with me in the past, and my profile on MTGS is slightly less...girlish, so to speak.

We've already decided that we're going to end up doing some kind of mass-vig/cop tonight.

Err...no we didn't

[FaerieLord]

You haven't made a "non-random" vote all game. There's caution, but this is just a complete lack of commitment.

Why didn't you see other games? I only vote when I'm sure someone is scum. It's not lack of commitment, it's making sure my vote is in the correct place.

I really cannot say I think anyone is scum in this game, you said so yourself

there wasn't a particularly strong alternative to the Cream-wagon

There isn't something to set my mind. Also, may I ask you why you want an alternative to the cream wagon?

[FaerieLord]

Gimbo, people disagreeing with you =! people are scum.

Also, notice the fact how both riceball and rogue didn't post after you posted? How can they go off had they no chance to go off?

[FaerieLord]

Gimbo, answer SSF

[FaerieLord]

You know, I'm really feeling uncomfortable right now.

At this point, "just trust me" won't fit

[FaerieLord]

I thought about it too SSF, but that'd be a bit unfair unless there's a good number of different scumgroups

I think Gimbo should say the entirety of the item, now that he used it

[FaerieLord]

So wait, this is a reusable item?

My head hurts...

[FaerieLord]

Give 1 coin to populartajo

[FaerieLord]

Have just been prodded. And I excuse myself. I'm off this afternoon, so I'll reread what I missed then.

[FaerieLord]

Guys, mass claiming is REALLY bad.

But you won't believe me without a claim here will you?

I am Princess Daisy. They captured me thinking it was Peach. I was captured by Bowser's Army.

Now obviously, I am going to die today at the end of the day, but massclaiming is bad as it will make the real princess come out, which is not a good idea. (Also, me being captured = my real vote counts for 0, and I lost all my coins)

There is more to my claim that I will not say.

[FaerieLord]

the vote to L-1 is a bad idea, my question is why can you talk to us if your kidnapped?

I can still talk. I just have no coins and no real vote

also if FL is daisy and not peach then he can be killed, maybe that's why Mod made a point to repeat that rule. that still hinges of course on if he is in fact daisy.

I can be killed. Peach cannot. But revealing more will help the bowser crew more than it'll help town

Also, FaerieLord, how do you know it was you that was kidnapped?

You don't. The only thing that proves this is the End of Day real vote count and then...we'll I'll be dead if we don't lynch bowser

If FL is telling the truth then it doesn't matter who we lynch (with the exception of the real peach)

Pretty much. I only claimed to save the real princess from being an idiot and claiming

I mean, only Bowser can do the kidnapping, correct?

My PM said I was kidnapped by Bowser.

[FaerieLord]

I have a question, does scum know they had kidnapped the wrong princess?

No. My role PM says that we are often mixed up, and they won't know the difference

How can Fl talk to us if shes kidnapped? Who kidnapped you?

Lo and behold. I'm kidnapped and talking. Also, bowser kidnapped me.

Why did killa seven receive a notification if Peach wasnt kidnapped?

He didn't say he did

[FaerieLord]

I think he'll be modkilled honestly, so let's not discuss him for now.

Cannot coinpool here since well...I don't have coins.

[FaerieLord]

I wish I could give but being kidnapped means I have no coins and no (real) vote.

[FaerieLord]

I'll try anyway

Give 1 coin to populartajo

[FaerieLord]

Just because there are acquirable mushrooms that doesn't mean a doctor is a redundant role, especially since his protection can back fire (by targetting one of the multiple scum groups)

[FaerieLord]

No. Hopefully FL had more or less than one coin so he can verify this.

I had more / less than 3 coins

[FaerieLord]

Thanks. That's so helpful.

Err...should have been 1 coin. Sorry :p

The way I interpret it, Bowser's kill is a kidnap in the case of the princess. I just assume that since there was only one NK every night so far, the scum have a fix NK as opposed to having to buy fireflowers.

My interpretation is like TSPNs (Bowser only kidnaps) but I'm not certain

[FaerieLord]

Clarifying previous post "I had more / less than 1 coin" (I had 3, which is why there was confusion)

[FaerieLord]

That should work fl.

[FaerieLord]

Really the only "evidence" is that we have to kill Bowser to get the Princess back. Which is a huge leap to say he's the only one that can submit a night kill. This is still Mafia. Hell, even the flavor text said a goonie nabbed the princess. AlabaskaJ is right, that was a total slip on Korts' side.

Bowser cannot send a night kill. He can send a kidnap attempt though that only works agains the Princess

Also, mod pm says that I was kidnapped by bowser. But I don't know if it's just Bowser as a team or Bowser as a person, since the flavour above it says that Koopas and Goombas came for me and put me into a sack then took me the Bowser's castle

[FaerieLord]

Lynchind Daisy would be a fine plan if it gave us solid proof that k7 is what he claims to be

Yeah. Go ahead town, lose your lynch on a person that will still die

[FaerieLord]

Are you alluding to my logic being terrible, or FL's?

Same question (Also, note, sarcasm)

[FaerieLord]

Give fireflower to riceballtail
Give Mushroom to Riceballtail
Give Feather to RiceBallTail.
Give Star to RiceBallTail.
Give One (1) Coin to PopularTajo

[FaerieLord]

I should be on that list too.

[FaerieLord]

Nice game. MVP is def Tajo in this game.