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[Nero Cain]

you do know that I'm calling Roster and Bob scum right?

[nomnomnom]

Actually scratch that, do you think you ever reach last 3, Nero?

[Nero Cain]

honestly, I feel like its Sky and I don't really see that changing but I'll vote whomever you want me to vote so I can blame you guys if I'm right or win the game if I'm wrong. win win 4 me!

[NotAnAxehole]

honestly, I feel like its Sky and I don't really see that changing but I'll vote whomever you want me to vote so I can blame you guys if I'm right or win the game if I'm wrong. win win 4 me!

Heheh. I just said something similar about sky in PT

[Nero Cain]

if sky is scum I could see her kill me b/c she never wins but you two are confirmed town masons so and I'm not exactly confirmed town so they might still think I'm lynchAable.

[nomnomnom]

Logically I die tonight and Axe dies the next except if they think Axe fucks it up REALLY hard.

[Nero Cain]

I mean you two should be talking to me about who to lynch between sky and Evee.

[nomnomnom]

I'll have a night of sleep first.

[EeveeLution Army]

Obviously, if skygazer and Bob flip scum, I'll be pretty upset at townies who detailed those wagons, especially Skygazer, I really don't feel she's done enough to demonstrate she's town... The 1v1 with eevee felt forced which make me think it's SvS. (Which would be a good play because the logical thing is to shoot away from the 1v1)

RosterFoster hammer hesitation on RuiRui is clearly scum.

Eevee soft claims don't make any sense in relation to her hard claim. Her role has no bearing on the target's alignment other than if that player performed the kill... In fact, the very fact the Eevee goes along with the plan that Skygazer proposed is really scummy because 1) it was a bad plans and 2) Skygazer is almost certainly scum from eevee PoV

my softs were mostly to state my targets. also making it seem like i was a stronger pr to lure a nk if possible.
sky wasnt certainly scum when the first plan was made. and in hindsight it was a bad plan lmao

[EeveeLution Army]

but...is coming up with the bad plan not equally bad?

[Skygazer]

guess who can't sleep

[Skygazer]

Obviously, if skygazer and Bob flip scum, I'll be pretty upset at townies who detailed those wagons, especially Skygazer, I really don't feel she's done enough to demonstrate she's town... The 1v1 with eevee felt forced which make me think it's SvS. (Which would be a good play because the logical thing is to shoot away from the 1v1)

RosterFoster hammer hesitation on RuiRui is clearly scum.

Eevee soft claims don't make any sense in relation to her hard claim. Her role has no bearing on the target's alignment other than if that player performed the kill... In fact, the very fact the Eevee goes along with the plan that Skygazer proposed is really scummy because 1) it was a bad plans and 2) Skygazer is almost certainly scum from eevee PoV

how does it feel forced to you? I'm sorry you don't feel I've done enough to demonstrate I'm town? I've had plenty of people who actually know me townread me (krazy/wagon/buj) but unfortunately they're all dead and I'm bad at towntelling to people I don't know as town

[Skygazer]

I think Skygazer's 1v1 with Eevee was TMI (and also potentially scum theater)

How is it TMI? Eevee is confscum to me, me/her both being town would mean that bob and/or roster is town which wouldn't be possible from my point of view. I don't see how that's too much information because it's a pretty logical conclusion.

[Skygazer]

honestly, I feel like its Sky and I don't really see that changing but I'll vote whomever you want me to vote so I can blame you guys if I'm right or win the game if I'm wrong. win win 4 me!

Kind of sucky of you to barely even try to interact with me if this is the case. Assuming you're town I feel like you've just written me off as scum without properly trying to interact with me or go back to look at the dead's reads on me. You're VCA points towards me not being scum with roster in any scenario (if you go and look at my other scum games, I'm usually fairly averse to voting with partners, and me having voted with roster on every single wagon massively spews me as town... in fact, seeing those vote counts makes me think that roster has been trying to force these associations between me and him from fairly early on, especially considering from Day 2 onwards roster always laid down his vote *after* me). Assuming roster is scum I'm kinda ticked that I was baited so hard and didn't even realize until today but here we are (no hard feelings if this was the case roster, well played).

[Nero Cain]

What do you want to interact with me about?

[Skygazer]

Can you reiterate why ur SRing me like maybe in bullets or something

[Nero Cain]

i wish I had bullets but rarely do I get to be a vig or any useful pr

[Skygazer]

[Nero Cain]

it basicly boils down to I think your role could be fake. Claim something that keeps you alive>>>>claim something that means you'd never have any results and it has a built in excuse that for why no one would claim to get a FN b/c only scum can receive and scum wouldn't scumclaim. TBF, I think its a p neat sounding role. Very WIFOMY so top notch fakeclaim or top notch role if thats a role schadd thought of.

I feel like you and roster going HARD against Evee makes sense to me as scum that's going for a game-ending ML.

[Nero Cain]

IT WAS A BULLET JOKE!

[Skygazer]

it basicly boils down to I think your role could be fake. Claim something that keeps you alive>>>>claim something that means you'd never have any results and it has a built in excuse that for why no one would claim to get a FN b/c only scum can receive and scum wouldn't scumclaim. TBF, I think its a p neat sounding role. Very WIFOMY so top notch fakeclaim or top notch role if thats a role schadd thought of.

I feel like you and roster going HARD against Evee makes sense to me as scum that's going for a game-ending ML.

I think me going hard against eevee is just indicative that eevee is confscum to me. My town play has been pretty poor lately (*especially* with this game) and I don't want to lose another one after losing pick your partner/booneytoons practically back to back, both in lylo situations so I think that also caused me to overreact here. I don't really see scum-me claiming something as future-death-sentencey as friendly neighbor on D1. You can argue that yeah my claim is clever and convenient but I honestly didn't expect to last this far once I full claimed which is why I self-voted and argued with axe that my play here wasn't as garbage as he was saying it was (granted, I was p garbage this game but still). I was pretty resigned to losing and honestly wouldn't have been that torn up about being mislynched. Honestly I should've just forced y'all to lynch me then because I should've known that my role would eventually get me lynched. In terms of set-up spec, I agree with you that my role is pretty clever and I also think it's clever (and evil) in how its designed to make people question me since i'm almost never confirmable (

fuck u schadd

)

[Nero Cain]

but see, even if Evee is conf scum to you that still makes Bob and Roster scum. In my mind, it makes sense to vote there first and give town the best possible chance. In that scenario where we lynch Bob and Roster and go into 3 player lylo I'll have to make the decision between you two but that makes the most sense to me and you and Roster wanting to not do that makes me think you guys are scum.

I get it, "Roster is scum and he's trying to make me look guilty." but its also just WIFOM.

me, nom and Axe are gonna spend a large chunk of the day talking about who to lynch between you and Evee.

[Nero Cain]

if evee is scum and I pushing for her wagon d1 only to get derailed by a shitty Wizard wagon then Axe can go fuck off. but then I think I could be wrong. idk. I'll see what they have to say tomorrow and maybe I'll iso you two later.

[rosterfoster]

I think we’re gonna lose this game because people are treating Nero as town.

Like I get I made some shitty decisions this game but town Nero would be WAY more angry about stuff like Wizard happening D1. Instead he just kind of let it happen.

[Skygazer]

Not sure how waiting to see gives us the best chance when scum can just eliminate the players less likely to side with me over eevee before it comes time to make that decision. I was also willing to vote bob over eevee and still will if I'm straight up asked to but would prefer resolving me/eevee first (if anything, for my own sanity).

I really don't see how if roster and I were scum together we'd have anything to gain by the voting together association. roster and bob are openly trying to create wifom over me by being split by my slot and it's clearly not the kind of wifom that would benefit me in the slightest if I was actually scum with them considering its getting you to SR me.