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rosterfoster · Post Post #2901 (ISO) » Tue May 21, 2019 3:39 am

Nom can you explain to me how the setup isn't ridiculously townsided with a Dis FN OR a Motion detector? Regardless of scum roles.

nomnomnom · Post Post #2902 (ISO) » Tue May 21, 2019 3:40 am

I don't think you realize how scum this makes you look right now from my point of view.

nomnomnom · Post Post #2903 (ISO) » Tue May 21, 2019 3:42 am

In post 2901, rosterfoster wrote:Nom can you explain to me how the setup isn't ridiculously townsided with a Dis FN OR a Motion detector? Regardless of scum roles.

We know nothing of the scumteam. Could be perfectly balanced for all you know. Setups on this site are not exactly known to be scumsided. Confer to our last game where the scumteam was stacked against a loyal neighborizer, disloyal even-night rber and a jailkeeper, against 2 goons and a night 1 watcher.

It's not about powerlevel, it's about mechanical play. You will not make me believe both of them are scum or that both of them are town unless you have strong evidence for it.

rosterfoster · Post Post #2904 (ISO) » Tue May 21, 2019 3:43 am

But what scum role could even balance it?

F+E + 2 VT's seems right as presumably we'd be looking at an open setup for comparison. Even a scum roleblocker wouldn't help that much against Motion detector or FN.

rosterfoster · Post Post #2905 (ISO) » Tue May 21, 2019 3:44 am

That game there wasn't a similar open setup to balance against.

Nero Cain · Post Post #2906 (ISO) » Tue May 21, 2019 3:46 am

you're right I don't. b/c I don't really understand what you are on about unless you are saying that only one of sky/evee can be scum b/c town must have a 4th pr.

like I still think its a sky/bob/roster team and

In post 2882, Nero Cain wrote:like either its sky and roster with one of bob/evee or one of roster/sky with both of bob evee.

was just me stating what the VC said.

nomnomnom · Post Post #2907 (ISO) » Tue May 21, 2019 3:46 am

I'm impressed Roster, I didn't know you could write this much asinine stuff in such a short time span lmao

I know you're trying to do this because otherwise you are going to your loss, 100%. But that's not going to work.

rosterfoster · Post Post #2908 (ISO) » Tue May 21, 2019 3:47 am

Really what's stupid about it?

I think they're both scum and I don't see why you don't think the vanilla setup is likely.

nomnomnom · Post Post #2909 (ISO) » Tue May 21, 2019 3:48 am

@Nero I never said town must have a 4th PR out of thin air. Reread what happened beginning of day and you will CLEARLY SEE why it's close to impossible that we are in anything else than "One of Eevee/Sky is scum" except if the scumteam fucked up extremely hard in a situation where they are hard winning.

rosterfoster · Post Post #2910 (ISO) » Tue May 21, 2019 3:49 am

Nom you still haven't answered my point about why Sky/Eevee being scum together bussing makes sense.

It leads to exactly the sort of mentality you are in now.

Nero Cain · Post Post #2911 (ISO) » Tue May 21, 2019 3:49 am

can't you just splain it to me? i really don't want to read

rosterfoster · Post Post #2912 (ISO) » Tue May 21, 2019 3:50 am

And given Sky had that ingenious fakeclaim of Disloyal FN, coming up with motion detector seems very possible.

nomnomnom · Post Post #2913 (ISO) » Tue May 21, 2019 3:51 am

rosterfoster · Post Post #2914 (ISO) » Tue May 21, 2019 3:52 am

You're making me punch the wall.

nomnomnom · Post Post #2915 (ISO) » Tue May 21, 2019 3:54 am

Alright let's do something else instead.

Let's admit they're both scum. Who's the last scum and why?

rosterfoster · Post Post #2916 (ISO) » Tue May 21, 2019 3:57 am

A I think probably bob. He’s been scummy all game and jumping on Sky + the wacky stuff with Nero makes sense.

Like I said Nero’s post about the VC’s doesn’t have a scum motivation.

nomnomnom · Post Post #2917 (ISO) » Tue May 21, 2019 4:00 am

Also @Nero do you believe Sky and Eevee could be bussing each other and setting this whole thing up?

NotAnAxehole · Post Post #2918 (ISO) » Tue May 21, 2019 4:01 am

Friends & Enemies with no town PRs would be town favoured in this player count.

rosterfoster · Post Post #2919 (ISO) » Tue May 21, 2019 4:03 am

Exactly.

So having MORE town PR’s seems insane no?

Nero Cain · Post Post #2920 (ISO) » Tue May 21, 2019 4:04 am

What are friends and Enemies?

rosterfoster · Post Post #2921 (ISO) » Tue May 21, 2019 4:05 am

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?ti ... nd_Enemies

ISO · Post Post #2922 (ISO) » Tue May 21, 2019 4:06 am

i think its been established in that review i linked that friends and enemies is less balanced when its closed which facilitates the need of an extra role (me!!) and 2 more VTs

Nero Cain · Post Post #2923 (ISO) » Tue May 21, 2019 4:07 am

In post 2917, nomnomnom wrote:Also @Nero do you believe Sky and Eevee could be bussing each other and setting this whole thing up?

i've already said the OR points to not bussing today and the only way that it could be bussing is that is town Sky votes scum Evee and scum Roster wants to bus Evee and buddy Sky.

NotAnAxehole · Post Post #2924 (ISO) » Tue May 21, 2019 4:09 am

In post 2923, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 2917, nomnomnom wrote:Also @Nero do you believe Sky and Eevee could be bussing each other and setting this whole thing up?
i've already said the OR points to not bussing today and the only way that it could be bussing is that is town Sky votes scum Evee and scum Roster wants to bus Evee and buddy Sky.

bussing between Eevee - skygazer is far stronger though because it drives the lynch to the other players, which have more town than scum. I'm not sure what the likelyhood of this is, but my god they're both scummy...