Newbie 621 (Game Over!)

[mith]

Vote Count:

5 to lynch.

Mirth: 1 (Thestatusquo)
Nahraza: 1 (Mirth)
Silencio: 1 (mercdaemon)

[mercdaemon]

All it is doing is distracting the town somewhat, and keeping you from actually playing the game mostly (I believe you only posted like 2 questions in one post to stimulate discussion)

So TSQ contradicts himself and you're willing to pass it off as banter?

Where do you get the impression that Batto is willing to pass it off as anything?

I've retained the bit above that I was specifically referring to. Battousai is suggesting that TSQ is mostly just keeping himself from actually playing the game.

If TSQ is pointing the finger at you just to get a response, that's fine. But when it goes further than that and TSQ posts contradictory statements, that's a bit less than fine to me, because it starts to suggest something else.

And just a bit more on what Battousai wrote, why would someone who isn't scum want to "distract the town"?

[Mirth]

Except we don't know if he *is* distracting the town. He can answer what he's doing for himself when he responds.

[Gremwell]

Hello all, I'm the replacement.

That said the only reason I can currently think of for TSQ to vote the way he did that concerns this game but not the game play, and on D1 is that he is scum and knows that Mirth is not.

Now I know that this seems really weak and I almost didn't post it but he did get a small wagon pretty quick. I know it seems like an insanely poor move to make on his part if it is the case but that is my first impression when reading through the thread. and it's mostly a /confirmation post.

For what it's worth

[Mirth]

Gremwell, do you consider 2 people a wagon worth paying attention to? What do you think of Malex? What do you think of Nahraza? Do you really think scum-TSQ would give himself away that easily?

[mercdaemon]

Except we don't know if he *is* distracting the town. He can answer what he's doing for himself when he responds.

You're right, but I'm more responding to what Batt said than commenting on TSQ's posts (which I've already done).

[Gremwell]

I dont thats why I said insanely poor, it was just a thought. But he seems intent, probably a red herring. My first thought was a reviving roll, but there is none so other than what I stated I'm at a loss, just trying to contribute.

Nahraza seems to me to be someone we could do without, I read the disinterest in playing as either a vanilla townie who is bored with the game, a scum trying to come off as bored, or someone who didn't really want to play in the first place. either way I would say no big loss for a D1 lynch.

wouldn't there only be 2 scum in a game this size, or is it 3?

As for the rest everyone is supicious, anything can make a case at this point, lurking, hyper posting, wagoning, avoiding wagons.

So at this time I don't have enough to vote, just trying to get into the game.

[Malex McJokeus]

Gremwell, there are only 2 scum in this game. Thank you for being far more active than the person you replaced.

Status: Why have you not posted since Tuesday? Especially since people (I) have asked you direct questions.

Mirth: What do you think of me?

[Mirth]

either way I would say no big loss for a D1 lynch.

wouldn't there only be 2 scum in a game this size, or is it 3?

As for the rest everyone is supicious, anything can make a case at this point, lurking, hyper posting, wagoning, avoiding wagons.

unvote:nahraza
vote:Gremwell

Can someone tell me why i just did that?

Malex: I think you're participating. Which is good. No opinion beyond that, why?

[Gremwell]

*raises hand* because my post was destructive in that it may cause to discredit any reasonable suspicions without adding any constructive content whatsoever.

Indeed very scummy

[Mirth]

*raises hand* because my post was destructive in that it may cause to discredit any reasonable suspicions without adding any constructive content whatsoever.

Indeed very scummy

Wrong. Anyone else want to take a guess?

[Gremwell]

Because I gave no real evidence to suspect any one specifically and just wrote it off as a sweeping generalized statement?

[Mirth]

Still no.

[Gremwell]

Dang, then I guess I don't know.

Unless its because you like to vote for people who come in mid game, or your scum and you are trying dominate the thread

[Malex McJokeus]

unvote:nahraza
vote:Gremwell

Can someone tell me why i just did that?

Malex: I think you're participating. Which is good. No opinion beyond that, why?

I asked because you felt the need to ask Gremwell what he thought. I figured if you felt the need to ask someone else their opinion of me, you must have your own.

We have already gone though you asking us to explain your thought process once before. I for one would just like to hear your reasoning. I realize that you are keeping your decisions close to the vest and as an IC you are trying to get us to think, but could you please explain your reasoning instead of having others do it for you only to be told they are wrong? Please?

[Mirth]

I asked because you are one of the more outspoken people here and I could get away with it for that purpose.

Now then, I'd prefer if someone could say it for me, but fine.

I'm voting Grem because (this order is the order in which i think the reasons are important)
a) he said we could do without Nahraza. We don't know if Nahraza is scum yet, and cant know, so anybody willing to simply write off a player without much thought or effort on page *5* (if Grem had posted something specific about Nahraza's play, not just that Nahraza is probably bored with the game, this would not bother me. This comes off as an excuse to be willing to later jump on a wagon if one forms.)
b) hes not sure of the number of scum in this game. This is an open setup. I realize that this could just be a newbie mistake, but it strikes me as disingenuous because its right there in the rules of this thread.
c) he ignored my questions.

[Gremwell]

what questions did I ignore?

[Mirth]

what questions did I ignore?

Gremwell, do you consider 2 people a wagon worth paying attention to? What do you think of Malex?

What do you think of Nahraza?

Do you really think scum-TSQ would give himself away that easily?

[Mirth]

EWBOP: Also why do you only focus on that part. No answer to the other two which actually bother me more.

[Gremwell]

first I answered all those questions, maybe not as clearly as I could have,

I said no I dont think TSQ would out his self so easily,

the reason I asked if it was 2 scum in the game is that if that were the case a wagon of 2 would be enough, granted it would be a poor move on the scum's part.

As for Malex I said I regarded everyone with suspicion. which may sound like a cop out but he hasn't said anything to out himself in my mind. and he seems to be participating at a good level

as for Nahraza, all his posts have little or nothing to do with the actual game aside from defending himself. and I think had it not been for your vote we wouldn't have heard much more, I could be wrong. but all said it was a tad overly defensive.

[Mirth]

the reason I asked if it was 2 scum in the game is that if that were the case a wagon of 2 would be enough, granted it would be a poor move on the scum's part.

Why? You cant lynch with 2 votes, you need a majority.

[Gremwell]

it could be all the scum on one vote, again it would be a very unlikely and poor move, but it is a noob game. thats my reasoning, not very great I know but nothing else in the thread jumped out at me.

[Malex McJokeus]

I asked because you are one of the more outspoken people here and I could get away with it for that purpose.

Get away with what for what purpose? I don't understand.

[Gremwell]

I thinks she meant that I could form an opinion of you based on your being an active poster, I'd have enough to make a decision

[Mirth]

I asked because you are one of the more outspoken people here and I could get away with it for that purpose.

Get away with what for what purpose? I don't understand.

I needed a pretense for getting Grem to talk. Asking for opinions = pretense.