Mini 2079 - Guns & Roses [Game Over]

[popsofctown]

true or false vig is the best mafia role

[popsofctown]

which is why this setup is awesome

[popsofctown]

it's a trick question because the best mafia role is vt

[popsofctown]

but vig is the second best

[Haschel Cedricson]

When one is involved with the missing events? The scum motivation is not drawing attention to one's self.

As for my vote, you can consider it to be on Alisae, xyzzy, and S_S.

Then flipping just vote one. Isoing the mod is a thing. Provable randomness is banned in thread but I rolled a d6, divided it by two and rounded down, and it says xyzzy.

Good thing I care about other people ISOing the mod!

No, wait. The opposite of that.

[Haschel Cedricson]

A whole lot of paragraphs that go out of their way to not actually say anything.

Vote: Something_Smart

[popsofctown]

Well you asked a really specific question that's not super likely to reflect what S_S finds most interesting about the game.

I agree with hito that your factfinding process doesn't look very effective.

[Haschel Cedricson]

Well you asked a really specific question that's not super likely to reflect what S_S finds most interesting about the game.

Alright, let's ask a question about the thing S_S finds most interesting about the game then.

I have no idea what that is based on his posting so maybe I'll let you formulate the question.

[Something_Smart]

Do you like submit no-kills as vig

Usually I just shoot LHF or consensus scumreads, just because I know that vig shooting is +EV no matter who they hit.

[Pine]

Reading now

[Something_Smart]

A whole lot of paragraphs that go out of their way to not actually say anything.

Vote: Something_Smart

I'd disagree with both parts of this, actually. I think I reached a pretty clear conclusion-- that people's reasons for voting xyzzy are dubious. And I don't think I really went off topic or took weird turns in my argument.

Now, if you want to say it "a whole lot of paragraphs that don't lead to any reads," then yeah, that's true. But that's my MO as town.

[Something_Smart]

Reading now

\o/

The coniferous slowpoke finally shows up!

[Pine]

Reading now

\o/

The coniferous slowpoke finally shows up!

Bite me?

[implosion]

Implosion justified his vote after the fact in 261 which is pretty similar to the above only even less so-- dislike of a post (229) that is a lot of words to not say very much. Being the master of that myself, I'm not really compelled by that argument.

I think the way xyzzy's post does this is significantly different from the way you seem to. The biggest difference is that even sitting on the sidelines, you've been directly engaging with people. xyzzy's post only directly addressed two people, and both of them are people who directly addressed xyzzy. They're never going out of their way to directly dialogue with anyone. This in conjunction with having no opinions is a Bad Thing.

[implosion]

Don't like haschel vanity voting S_S after saying his vote is on three people in spirit, one of whom is xyzzy who has an L-3 wagon. I understand it's in response to 296 but it really wasn't that bad of a post, it doesn't say a whole lot but it's not particularly scummy contextually.

I also feel a bit sketchier on hito at this point for no strongly discernible reason.

[Something_Smart]

Sounds like your issue with xyzzy doesn't really have to do with using a lot of words to say nothing then, no? Because failing to proactively engage people seems pretty different from that.

I will say, though, that I do also have times when I will behave that way as town, although they usually happen in large games when I can afford to drop out of the discussion without slowing down the game.

[Something_Smart]

I also feel a bit sketchier on hito at this point for no strongly discernible reason.

Is it because hito seems like the type to play very similarly as both alignments? Because that's the impression I've been getting.

[implosion]

It's possible alisae is just town idk. Don't really know how to sort em. I've gone back and forth on how I feel on their reaction to the haschel post which feels like it should be sortable.

Really wish pine would say things instead of repeatedly saying he is going to say things.

[Something_Smart]

I guess you're... pining for some activity from him *dodges tomatoes*

[implosion]

Sounds like your issue with xyzzy doesn't really have to do with using a lot of words to say nothing then, no? Because failing to proactively engage people seems pretty different from that.

It's more the reason why that being scummy doesn't really apply to you. You're both "saying nothing" very broadly, i guess, but you're doing it in two different ways, and the way xyzzy is doing it is scummy because of various contextual factors (the fact they're lurking, the fact that they're not actively engaging, the way their post looks like a generic Scum Catchup Post, so on so forth).

Is it because hito seems like the type to play very similarly as both alignments? Because that's the impression I've been getting.

Maybe. It's like he's the epitome of the Logic domain in Mafia Metamafia, which is not really readable because Logic is very easy to fake as scum. Of course I went and looked at what his domain was in metamafia and he was actually just hitogoroshi without any domains and you kids are probably too young to know what i'm talking about so~~~

[popsofctown]

Reading now

\o/

The coniferous slowpoke finally shows up!

Bite me?

Eight seventeen a.m.

/in Hall of Mirrors

Eleven fifteen a.m.

[Something_Smart]

Real life picture of Pine:

[Something_Smart]

It's okay, I just won't send him his role PM for Hall of Mirrors until he catches up here

[popsofctown]

@cyanjet: hitogoroshi indicated he thinks he is very likely to lynch scum today. Do you think that makes him more likely town?
You can click this: post 25 to see the post.

[popsofctown]

Oh I'm gonna be V/LA about... 19th to 24th, assuming my activity level is higher on departure/arrival days, which is the opposite assumption from the one hito made, but like if I procrastinate packing I have to play a forum game instead of a real game to maintain the lie to myself I won't be procrastinating for an extended period of time I figure. Will be in Seattle for a vacay, will just be phonepostings