Mini 589: SSBB Smalltown Mafia (Game Over!)

[iamausername]

What about these two parts? I know that The Fonz has already responded to the first part and has shown that it is not that strong, but could you respond to them anyways?

OK, for the first point, I'd just be echoing exactly what The Fonz said on the subject.

For the second part, I agree that Gorrad could have done what you say. But I don't see any evidence to suggest that he did, and you can't lynch people based purely on what they

might

have done. All of us (OK, except The Fonz and dahill)

might

be scum who killed someone last night. That doesn't prove anything.

Yes, Gorrad chose a bad protection target. So did Lawrencelot. Why aren't you pushing a wagon on him, too?

[Anatole Kuragin]

I don't suppose anyone else finds it suspicious that Gorrad just said he was going to kill me.

[The Fonz]

Killing you would be a massively antitown action.

[andersonw]

Yes, Gorrad chose a bad protection target. So did Lawrencelot. Why aren't you pushing a wagon on him, too?

I don't believe that Lawrencelot chose a bad protection target because I would have also protected The Fonz if I were him, since it was a chance for someone to be confirmed. If the mafia targeted The Fonz and he wasn't protected, then having both pikachu and mario targeting The Fonz would have been pointless.

I don't suppose anyone else finds it suspicious that Gorrad just said he was going to kill me.

I find him suspicious, as stated in post 463.

Actually, he has been acting so scummy recently so I'm going to go

Vote:Gorrad

.

[The Fonz]

Yes, Gorrad chose a bad protection target. So did Lawrencelot. Why aren't you pushing a wagon on him, too?

I don't believe that Lawrencelot chose a bad protection target because I would have also protected The Fonz if I were him, since it was a chance for someone to be confirmed. If the mafia targeted The Fonz and he wasn't protected, then having both pikachu and mario targeting The Fonz would have been pointless.
.

Even though I said that the entire testing plan relied on no-one beyond dahill and gob targetting the selected player?

And no, it would have achieved something. It would have kept the freaking nightkills away from the doc and the investigative roles.

[pickemgenius]

Killing you would be a massively antitown action.

[goborage]

Killing you would be a massively antitown action.

What's this mean?

Anyways, what do you guys think of assigning Lawrence a target tonight? He has one of those roles where a night action is difficult to verify, so how about we make him target one of our confirmed? I guess one could make the argument that it would be better to keep the scum guessing who to NK, but I'd feel safer with an assigned night action for Lawrence.

[Gorrad]

...Well that was one of the most scummy posts I've seen all game.

And crap. He's the hider. I CAN'T NK him ><.

[goborage]

Elaborate please.

[goborage]

I'm guessing you're referring to 187 and 192 but the situation is different, we have confirmed peeps today.

[iamausername]

it would be better to keep the scum guessing who to NK

Yes.

[Gorrad]

No, I am not referring to 187 and 192. Assigning Lawrence would be the worst idea since Olaf the hairy viking ordered 100 battle helmets with the horns on the inside.

[The Fonz]

...Well that was one of the most scummy posts I've seen all game.

And crap. He's the hider. I CAN'T NK him ><.

No, he's the role-borrower, and he's currently our doctor.

Directing lawrence isn't actually as bad an idea as you think it is- we definitely need to avoid the protections overlapping. But, i think on balance, the consequence of that (ie- making sure that AK, at least, available for NK) outweighs the benefits.

Will hammer by end of day.

[Gorrad]

No, I was refering to Gorborage.

[The Fonz]

No-one ever suggested killing Gob though?

[Gorrad]

Well, yes, but after that post of his I was considering it.

[Xdaamno]

Votecount

andersonw: 4

(iamausername, goborage, dahill1, Gorrad)

Gorrad: 3

(Lawrencelot, Anatole Kuragin, andersonw)

Not Voting: 2

(pickemgenius, Dean Harper)

Player List: pickemgenius, Lawrencelot, Anatole Kuragin, Dean Harper, dahill1, goborage, andersonw, iamausername, Gorrad.

Five (5) to lynch.

[goborage]

The BG role isn't really a doc. Docs are part investigative in that a successful protect results in a confirmed townie, so I agree that most of the time he should be left free to choose. BG is nowhere near as good. Even if he does successfully protect someone, town has no confirmed. If the BG is scum, it's the perfect role to use NKs as few would hold a BG accountable for even a power-role's death (as seen today). I think the best way to use the BG is to protect a confirmed. In the event that the confirmed dies we automatically know that the BG is scum.

[goborage]

No, I am not referring to 187 and 192. Assigning Lawrence would be the worst idea since Olaf the hairy viking ordered 100 battle helmets with the horns on the inside.

Explain please. Please avoid spouting out dogmas.

[The Fonz]

The BG role isn't really a doc. Docs are part investigative in that a successful protect results in a confirmed townie, so I agree that most of the time he should be left free to choose. BG is nowhere near as good. Even if he does successfully protect someone, town has no confirmed. .

That just isn't true in a game with an SK.

Anyhow, as promised:

Vote: andersonw

[andersonw]

This is a pre-emptive bah post.


Bah!

[Lawrencelot]

I asked why we wouldn't let the town assign me a target D1, but I forgot what the answer was. Anyway, I expect I'm free to choose again? I don't understand a thing about Gob's post about the BG, btw. How is a normal doc partly an investigative role, he doesn't know if he succesfully protected someone... That being said, I understand even less of Gorrad's latest play, and I am very surprised that he was not today's lynch.

[The Fonz]

Free choice is best, since it allows us the possibility of evidence against you arising. Basically, i will be very sceptical of you if one of a couple of roles dies tonight and you don't.

And Gorrad's play is something i've seen many, many times. He does something stupid, takes umbrage to people pointing out how stupid it is, and then gets all omgussy to the extent that settling scores takes precendence over the win condition.

[Xdaamno]

End-Of-Day Votecount

andersonw: 5

(iamausername, goborage, dahill1, Gorrad, The Fonz)

Gorrad: 3

(Lawrencelot, Anatole Kuragin, andersonw)

Not Voting: 1

(pickemgenius)

andersonw

(Snake) has been lynched; He was a

mafioso

!

It is now Night 2, with 8 players left alive.

Send in all night actions.

Player List: pickemgenius, Lawrencelot, Anatole Kuragin, The Fonz, dahill1, goborage, iamausername, Gorrad.

[Xdaamno]

Day Scene

pickemgenius

- Donkey Kong, Hunter has been killed. He was a Townie.

Goborage

- Pikachu, Hider has been killed. He was a Townie.

Anatole Kuragin

- Kirby, Role Absorber has been killed. He was a Townie.

iamausername

has increased in size.

It is now Day 3, best of luck.

Start-Of-Day Votecount

Not Voting: 5

(Lawrencelot, Dean Harper, dahill1, JamesThePhox, Gorrad)

Player List: Lawrencelot, Dean Harper, dahill1, JamesThePhox, Gorrad.

Three (3) to lynch.