Mafia 78: Meta Breaking Mafia 1 - Game over!

[shaft.ed]

PEG seems to be the only non-claimed player. I am willing to go before or after him, though it seems pretty obvious what his claim will be.

You go first

Well since I'm certain PEG's claiming mason

, I'll go first and assert my vanilla townie goodness.

I don't like your wording here. Anyone else find the bolded bit pretty scummy?

How so? It's the only claim left, and we've both been bread crumbing it.

[shaft.ed]

Is it me or does it seem like having too much discussion today would give the mafia more information than they need?

Seems like once PEG claims. MM does his day-cop. Then we move into night.

Unless we feel the need to discuss MM's target. But it seems like discussion could just allow the mafia to kill into WIFOM or remove someone perceived as more pro-town.

[Surye]

Gorrad, are you pointing out shaft.ed's obviously null post to weasel out of your lynch today?

[Adel]

Vote Count #43

Not Voting[7]: Gorrad, Machiavellian-Mafia, pickemgenius, shaft.ed, Surye, Tarhalindur, Toaster Strudel

[Surye]

Vote: Gorrad

Lets not lose sight. I know that we have a couple things to do today, but I'm getting this ball rolling.

Quick question for Tar, is there any reason to believe you are definitely not naive? You might have said you got a guilty, but I don't remember.

[shaft.ed]

Also with two possible cops I think Tar should claim his results before the days end?

[Gorrad]

The key scummy word is 'since'. 'Since he is claiming mason, I'm claiming townie'. That implies that there would be something OTHER than townie that he could claim.

Don't worry, I know I'm the lynch. Just wanted that out there.

[shaft.ed]

The key scummy word is 'since'. 'Since he is claiming mason, I'm claiming townie'. That implies that there would be something OTHER than townie that he could claim.

Don't worry, I know I'm the lynch. Just wanted that out there.

No the Since refers to when I will claim. Since I know what PEG is claiming...I will go first.

[shaft.ed]

can we get a PEG prod, he's back to active on site.

[shaft.ed]

Surye has PEG been at all active as a mason partner?

[Adel]

can we get a PEG prod, he's back to active on site.

I almost missed this post. If someone wants my attention

bold letter

really help.

PEG has been prodded.

[Tarhalindur]

Vote: Gorrad

Lets not lose sight. I know that we have a couple things to do today, but I'm getting this ball rolling.

Quick question for Tar, is there any reason to believe you are definitely not naive? You might have said you got a guilty, but I don't remember.

Quite the opposite: I'm assuming I am Naive until proven otherwise.

Surviving innocents: Toaster Strudel (should NOT have investigated her in retrospect), shaft.ed

MM, would you mind investigating Surye? If there's a scum in the Masons (which I consider increasingly probable), he's probably it.

I want the results of MM's daycop before we head into night. No vote for now for exactly that reason.

[pickemgenius]

can we get a PEG prod, he's back to active on site.

define active. tl;dr posts and posting a VC in a newbie is far from being active





also looking over Rosso (not helpful btw) was basically jack shit.


I also am indifferent about Tar claim atm.

and yes everyone knows what i am now. pyramids scheme ftw?

can we get a PEG prod, he's back to active on site.

define active. tl;dr posts and posting a VC in a newbie is far from being active

[shaft.ed]

why is having PEG around so much like not having PEG around?

[Surye]

Vote: Gorrad

Lets not lose sight. I know that we have a couple things to do today, but I'm getting this ball rolling.

Quick question for Tar, is there any reason to believe you are definitely not naive? You might have said you got a guilty, but I don't remember.

Quite the opposite: I'm assuming I am Naive until proven otherwise.

Surviving innocents: Toaster Strudel (should NOT have investigated her in retrospect), shaft.ed

MM, would you mind investigating Surye? If there's a scum in the Masons (which I consider increasingly probable), he's probably it.

I want the results of MM's daycop before we head into night. No vote for now for exactly that reason.

Any reason you'd pick me over PEG?

[shaft.ed]

Vote: Gorrad

Lets not lose sight. I know that we have a couple things to do today, but I'm getting this ball rolling.

Quick question for Tar, is there any reason to believe you are definitely not naive? You might have said you got a guilty, but I don't remember.

Quite the opposite: I'm assuming I am Naive until proven otherwise.

Surviving innocents: Toaster Strudel (should NOT have investigated her in retrospect), shaft.ed

MM, would you mind investigating Surye? If there's a scum in the Masons (which I consider increasingly probable), he's probably it.

I want the results of MM's daycop before we head into night. No vote for now for exactly that reason.

Any reason you'd pick me over PEG?

That's a rather good question actually.

[Surye]

Vote: Gorrad

Lets not lose sight. I know that we have a couple things to do today, but I'm getting this ball rolling.

Quick question for Tar, is there any reason to believe you are definitely not naive? You might have said you got a guilty, but I don't remember.

Quite the opposite: I'm assuming I am Naive until proven otherwise.

Surviving innocents: Toaster Strudel (should NOT have investigated her in retrospect), shaft.ed

Also, anyone notice the subtle but important contradiction here?

[Toaster Strudel]

Did Tarhalindur really investigate me last night?

If he did, it's pretty certain that he's scum.

[Gorrad]

I don't get it.

[Toaster Strudel]

I don't get it.

(1) I claimed doctor and I am not counterclaimed. Why investigate?

(2) I claimed doctor and almost 100% sure that I was going to be nightkilled, unless both scum entities thought the other one would shoot me down. Why waste an investigation? If they failed to kill me last night, you bete they will tonight.

(3) In fact, both scumgroups should have taken no chance that I remain alive, both should have shot me down, so that tomorrow, they could have a clear shot of the cop. Unless Tar is not really a cop, and he wants an explanation as to why he continues to live.

I'm less sure about point #3, but points #1 and #2 make me uneasy.

[shaft.ed]

TS, looking at his list he may have investigated me last night and you the night before since I'm at the end of the list.

I can see the scum leaving you alive. You have some instances of fakeclaiming power roles as a vanilla townie so they might have gambled on that, or been trying to set up WIFOM. Hell I was 50% expecting to see you dead as a vanilla townie on daybreak.

I see Surye's contradiction, but don't think it means much.

[Machiavellian-Mafia]

I have sent in my day investigation choice for Surye since he hasn't been investigated yet and like Tar said, there's a chance of a scum mason.

[Tarhalindur]

Vote: Gorrad

Lets not lose sight. I know that we have a couple things to do today, but I'm getting this ball rolling.

Quick question for Tar, is there any reason to believe you are definitely not naive? You might have said you got a guilty, but I don't remember.

Quite the opposite: I'm assuming I am Naive until proven otherwise.

Surviving innocents: Toaster Strudel (should NOT have investigated her in retrospect), shaft.ed

MM, would you mind investigating Surye? If there's a scum in the Masons (which I consider increasingly probable), he's probably it.

I want the results of MM's daycop before we head into night. No vote for now for exactly that reason.

Any reason you'd pick me over PEG?

Now that Mini 547 has been abandoned... because PEG is playing to his town meta (I killed him for playing the exact same way he's played here as scum in 547).

TS: Yes, I did investigate you after your claim, for the exact same reason that I investigated ABR after his claim: I didn't see the claim.

I fully expect to be lynched tomorrow for that mistake, too.

Note: pretty sure the last scum is Surye or shaft.ed, MM being third choice. Pickem is unlikely to be scum, Gorrad is not Mafia but has to be lynched, TS is confirmed innocent.

[Toaster Strudel]

Tarhalindur,

As the doctor, the bare minimum contribution for me is to scan the game looking for valuable power roles to protect.

You have failed the bare minimum requirements for your role.

Maybe M-M should investigate you instead.

You know, I don't have to protect you tonight. You are completely useless as a cop, you're hardly worth protecting. Maybe I should protect M-M instead.

[Toaster Strudel]

Gorrad is not Mafia but has to be lynched, TS is confirmed innocent.

How do you know, and why?