Mushroom Kingdom Mafia (Game over!)

[goborage]

??? After reading all the above you decide to vote RBT?

Mod edit:
Visible votecount:
Riceballtail (5): skitzer, Gimbo, TheSweatpantsNinja, Alabaska J, somestrangeflea
Cream147 (4): sideney, Riceballtail, armlx, farside22
Rogue Shenanigans (2): iamausername, mr. incrediball
Phoebus (3): ashmite84, killa seven, Rogue Shenanigans
FaerieLord (1): Surye
Alabaska J (1): populartajo
killa seven (2): Phoebus, goborage

No lynch (1): malthusis

Not voting (5): andersonw, Cream147, FaerieLord, Celebloki, DragonsofSummer

With 24 alive it takes 13 real votes to lynch. Deadline: June 25th. At deadline, it takes 7 real votes to lynch.

[Alabaska J]

Ok well I remember the Gimbo vote and frankly I would have done the same thing. I'm not entirely sure what the rest of your vote refers to. Can anyone refer me to a specific post? 30 page thread FTL.

Read Cream's posts my posts, armlx's posts, Phoebus' posts. There's a button at the bottom that lets you view all posts by a specific person. It should be easier to find stuff there.

[goborage]

Holy crap, I never noticed that before. Thanks, I won't vote for you today Alabaska J.

[Surye]

Well, RBT's role-claim is true to this extent, but I still do not buy the name. And more to the point, the eating scum to stop their vote seems really contrived. The inability to have items, coins, or anything does not seem like it balances with the ability to prevent the real vote of a scum, especially since the visible count will show the vote still, so there would be no way of knowing if he hit scum. That is a SEVERLY underpowered role. I don't buy it.

Unvote, Vote:RBT

[Surye]

I can attempt to give it straight back.

Good call.

RBT is confirmed to have that role. Lynching him today is not optimal.

SSF, you are wrong. If any of these players claimed an unconfirmable claim I would lynch them on the spot. None have. No reason to lynch confirmable townies when there are still other suspects.

So people, lets focus and not just screw up today.

Simupost... but honestly, I still stand by my vote. His role claim does not add up.

[somestrangeflea]

RBT is confirmed to have that role.

No.

He's confirmed to have a role that has "You cannot hold items" in it. No more, no less.

[iamausername]

That is a SEVERLY underpowered role.

Well, yeah. It's

Yoshi

. His entire purpose is to be useless.

Do you honestly believe his claim is less plausible than Rogue's?

We can also confirm two of the other three aspects of his claim easily enough (if anyone feels like wasting a coin on such). And I think the existence of a scum role that can hold no coins/items and has no vote is far less plausible than pro-town Yoshi with same.

[Lawrencelot]

Prodded the replacements that needed prodding (ashmite, andersonw, malthusis). During Night 1 there will probably be more replacing.

[Surye]

That is a SEVERLY underpowered role.

Well, yeah. It's

Yoshi

. His entire purpose is to be useless.

Do you honestly believe his claim is less plausible than Rogue's?

We can also confirm two of the other three aspects of his claim easily enough (if anyone feels like wasting a coin on such). And I think the existence of a scum role that can hold no coins/items and has no vote is far less plausible than pro-town Yoshi with same.

Yoshi is pretty useless isn't he? ;P

But I don't really like either claim. But yes, I like Rogue's better.

[skitzer]

Hmmm...as Riceballtail's claim is somewhat proven, I'm going to

Unvote, Vote Rogue Shenanigans.

But because of huge ties between Rogue and Rice, If Rogue flips scum, then expect my vote to be on Rice tomorrow.

Also, It is strange how slow posting was, and now, as we near the deadline, people are posting a lot more. I think we should maintain that posting rate throughout the entire day.

[somestrangeflea]

We can also confirm two of the other three aspects of his claim easily enough (if anyone feels like wasting a coin on such). And I think the existence of a scum role that can hold no coins/items and has no vote is far less plausible than pro-town Yoshi with same.

It's a fairly plausible scum role if you take into account that, as a scum, the fact that Yoshi can only nullify scum votes is BS. Being able to nullify town votes is quite a useful scum ability.

No reason to lynch confirmable townies when there are still other suspects.

We don't

have

any confirmable townies. We have some semi-confirmable roles. THEY ARE NOT THE SAME. A bunch of people (including you, I think) thought the same thing about Gimbo and his role.

[armlx]

We don't have any confirmable townies. We have some semi-confirmable roles. THEY ARE NOT THE SAME. A bunch of people (including you, I think) thought the same thing about Gimbo and his role.

Semi-confirmable roles is the same thing at this point in the game.

[goborage]

The biggest point against cream is his vote on Gimbo, which I would have done myself. People are calling him out on making an L-15? vote for a scummy looking guy. I wouldn't call that opportunistic. He's also being called out on not meta-ing Gimbo. I'm betting that 3/4 players on MS never meta so I'm filing that under null-tell. Besides, SSF obv did not meta either when he made his attack but he's not under scrutiny.

I'm not a fan of Cream's 27 or any meta-defense for that matter but I don't have any strong alignment read on it.

Cream's 28 & 47 seem townish to me.

What I would like is some actual scum-hunting from cream but I could say that about 1/2 of the people in this game.

[somestrangeflea]

We don't have any confirmable townies. We have some semi-confirmable roles. THEY ARE NOT THE SAME. A bunch of people (including you, I think) thought the same thing about Gimbo and his role.

Semi-confirmable roles is the same thing at this point in the game.

I CLAIM "SOMEONE WHO CAN RECEIVE COINS". GIVE ME A COIN TO PROVE THIS, AND I WILL RETURN IT.

*receives coin*
*returns coin*

I'M A CONFIRMED TOWNIE YAY.

[iamausername]

We can also confirm two of the other three aspects of his claim easily enough (if anyone feels like wasting a coin on such). And I think the existence of a scum role that can hold no coins/items and has no vote is far less plausible than pro-town Yoshi with same.

It's a fairly plausible scum role if you take into account that, as a scum, the fact that Yoshi can only nullify scum votes is BS. Being able to nullify town votes is quite a useful scum ability.

OK, I can understand your position now, although I still think it's far more likely that Riceball is telling the truth than it is that Rogue is.

[somestrangeflea]

We can also confirm two of the other three aspects of his claim easily enough (if anyone feels like wasting a coin on such). And I think the existence of a scum role that can hold no coins/items and has no vote is far less plausible than pro-town Yoshi with same.

It's a fairly plausible scum role if you take into account that, as a scum, the fact that Yoshi can only nullify scum votes is BS. Being able to nullify town votes is quite a useful scum ability.

OK, I can understand your position now, although I still think it's far more likely that Riceball is telling the truth than it is that Rogue is.

Ditto, but the Rogue wagon died.

[iamausername]

If your vote was there, both would be on four at this point.

[somestrangeflea]

If your vote was there, both would be on four at this point.

Touché.

Unvote, Vote: RS

.

(I'm now keeping an updated VC open in Notepad... It's hard to keep up.)

[armlx]

People are calling him out on making an L-15? vote for a scummy looking guy

It was pretty evident without even metaing Gimbo that was his play style.

We don't have any confirmable townies. We have some semi-confirmable roles. THEY ARE NOT THE SAME. A bunch of people (including you, I think) thought the same thing about Gimbo and his role.

Semi-confirmable roles is the same thing at this point in the game.

I CLAIM "SOMEONE WHO CAN RECEIVE COINS". GIVE ME A COIN TO PROVE THIS, AND I WILL RETURN IT.

*receives coin*
*returns coin*

I'M A CONFIRMED TOWNIE YAY.

I don't even feel this needs to be justified with a response.

[goborage]

vote farside

word

unvote vote cream

Mind sharing your thoughts on why you made these votes?

Phoebus question definately does not sound like the words of someone who got the townie PM,

Hahaha!
And what exactly is the townie PM?
Are you role fishing?


Are there even any specific non townies?
For all I know - there's the mafia, a bunch of toads who can buy powers and that's it.
Even Peach might be a mechanic from where I sit...

You are right clueless, you are.

What exactly have I said or.. rather... not said that's so evil and scumbaggy?

unvote vote phoebus

this is scummy as hell. and half of what you just said is B.S

phoebus wrote.
"For all I know - there's the mafia, a bunch of toads who can buy powers and that's it."
sounds very much like scum fishing for power town roles.

phoebus wrote
"Even Peach might be a mechanic from where I sit..."

again sounds like your fishing to find peach.

I don't like this post. K7 throws a lot of scummy inflections on Phoebus' words without giving the Phoebus any room to reply. Things like "You are scummy" and "This is BS". He doesn't even seem to want a reply. K7's post just seems like an easy way to park a vote.

[somestrangeflea]

We don't have any confirmable townies. We have some semi-confirmable roles. THEY ARE NOT THE SAME. A bunch of people (including you, I think) thought the same thing about Gimbo and his role.

Semi-confirmable roles is the same thing at this point in the game.

I CLAIM "SOMEONE WHO CAN RECEIVE COINS". GIVE ME A COIN TO PROVE THIS, AND I WILL RETURN IT.

*receives coin*
*returns coin*

I'M A CONFIRMED TOWNIE YAY.

I don't even feel this needs to be justified with a response.

It's called "Reductio ad absurdum".

And it's f**king awesome.

[armlx]

It's called "Reductio ad absurdum".

Yeah, that. It falls in that large pile of bad reasonings.

[goborage]

@ armlx: You really shouldn't have nipped the Gimbo wagon in the bud then. I'm pretty sure you would have caught at least 5 other scum.

[Alabaska J]

Hmm armlx I'm surprised you are buying RBT's claim. I personally don't like either claim.

[armlx]

@ armlx: You really shouldn't have nipped the Gimbo wagon in the bud then. I'm pretty sure you would have caught at least 5 other scum.

That is a valid point.