Mushroom Kingdom Mafia (Game over!)

[somestrangeflea]

It's called "Reductio ad absurdum".

Yeah, that. It falls in that large pile of bad reasonings.

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This is the part where you explain why.

Mod edit:
Visible votecount:
Riceballtail (4): Gimbo, TheSweatpantsNinja, Alabaska J, Surye
Cream147 (4): sideney, Riceballtail, armlx, farside22
Rogue Shenanigans (4): iamausername, mr. incrediball, skitzer, somestrangeflea
Phoebus (3): ashmite84, killa seven, Rogue Shenanigans
Alabaska J (1): populartajo
killa seven (2): Phoebus, goborage

No lynch (1): malthusis

Not voting (5): andersonw, Cream147, FaerieLord, Celebloki, DragonsofSummer

With 24 alive it takes 13 real votes to lynch. Deadline: June 25th, 6 PM GMT. At deadline, it takes 7 real votes to lynch.

[somestrangeflea]

And if you call Strawman I'm going to beat you to death.

[armlx]

It's called "Reductio ad absurdum".

Yeah, that. It falls in that large pile of bad reasonings.

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This is the part where you explain why.

Because you aren't using a reasonable, applicable comparison. You are comparing chihuahuas to wolves.

What you are doing is Strawmanning though. You are asking me to defend myself by explaining known logical fallicies, drawing attention from my original argument.

[somestrangeflea]

Because you aren't using a reasonable, applicable comparison. You are comparing chihuahuas to wolves.

I'm not "comparing anything to anything". I'm applying your argument...

Semi-confirmable roles is the same thing [as confirmable townies] at this point in the game.

...to an absurd situation (claiming a role which can receive coins) to highlight the flaws within it.

What you are doing is Strawmanning though.

GRRRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAH

*ahem*

Not true. Strawmanning is when you take a twisted form of an opposing argument and then disprove it. As you can see above, I haven't twisted your argument.

[Riceballtail]

Also, "Strawmanning" involves taking a small piece of the case someone has built up that is weaker than their other points and blowing it up. They can then defeat the weaker point and use that as 'proof' that everything that person has said is wrong.

This is what I was thought it was too.

@gob: I suspect that a scum player has some ability where they eat that mushroom and gain an ability. Anyway, it's currently not a risk if it doesn't exist. (I'm thinking a Wario role... he seems to like rotten things.)

[goborage]

Lol. Your post makes you look scummy.

[Alabaska J]

hey why haven't we reached a consensus yet?

[killa seven]

vote farside

word

unvote vote cream

Mind sharing your thoughts on why you made these votes?

Phoebus question definately does not sound like the words of someone who got the townie PM,

Hahaha!
And what exactly is the townie PM?
Are you role fishing?


Are there even any specific non townies?
For all I know - there's the mafia, a bunch of toads who can buy powers and that's it.
Even Peach might be a mechanic from where I sit...

You are right clueless, you are.

What exactly have I said or.. rather... not said that's so evil and scumbaggy?

unvote vote phoebus

this is scummy as hell. and half of what you just said is B.S

phoebus wrote.
"For all I know - there's the mafia, a bunch of toads who can buy powers and that's it."
sounds very much like scum fishing for power town roles.

phoebus wrote
"Even Peach might be a mechanic from where I sit..."

again sounds like your fishing to find peach.

I don't like this post. K7 throws a lot of scummy inflections on Phoebus' words without giving the Phoebus any room to reply. Things like "You are scummy" and "This is BS". He doesn't even seem to want a reply. K7's post just seems like an easy way to park a vote.

i didnt like his peach fishing, and your saying i left the bigger cream wagon to jump on phoebus who only had one vote on him at the time just so i can safly park my vote?

[Surye]

Like I said, I distrust both claims, in the name of getting a lynch before the deadline, I still feel confident with a

Unvote, Vote:RS

[Gimbo]

hoyl shit, the amount of mass-claimign going on, lol

sigh,

Unvote Vote:Cream

[Surye]

Like I said, I distrust both claims, in the name of getting a lynch before the deadline, I still feel confident with a

Unvote, Vote:RS

[Surye]

Doh, damn double post, please delete >_<

[Surye]

I don't like the case on Cream, and I don't feel comfortable putting my vote on him.

[somestrangeflea]

hoyl shit, the amount of mass-claimign going on, lol

There are exactly 0.125 mass-claims in the game so far.

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rofl

[Gimbo]

Ok, i think if anyone claims a confirmable claim, they most likely not scum (not saying they are exactly town).

think about it, why would a scum claim anything, even if its confirmable and might mislead others. If a scum claims a role that is confirmable, it'll come back to bite them in the ass because people will be watching out for how these players use their abilities later on.

But since there are only 2 claims right now and people seems to not want to lynch Cream...

first i think the Rogue claim is pretty fishy, it seems like the 10-coin thing is made up to make us reluctant to test it.

bahhh!

Unvote

people, get the FUCK off the Pheebz wagon, Jesus.....

[killa seven]

/ignore gimbo

[armlx]

Because you aren't using a reasonable, applicable comparison. You are comparing chihuahuas to wolves.

I'm not "comparing anything to anything". I'm applying your argument...

Semi-confirmable roles is the same thing [as confirmable townies] at this point in the game.

...to an absurd situation (claiming a role which can receive coins) to highlight the flaws within it.

What you are doing is Strawmanning though.

GRRRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAH

*ahem*

Not true. Strawmanning is when you take a twisted form of an opposing argument and then disprove it. As you can see above, I haven't twisted your argument.

Yes. That is what you are doing. He is proven to have a non-standard role, and that is good enough for now. Your argument was "the game rules work, so I must be town", mine is "the game rules don't apply to him, which is a sign his role works as claimed, and usually that is pro-town".


K7, your vote is the same as voting NL. Please move it.

[killa seven]

when is the deadline

[armlx]

In like a couple hours....

[iamausername]

Well, 19.

[somestrangeflea]

Because you aren't using a reasonable, applicable comparison. You are comparing chihuahuas to wolves.

I'm not "comparing anything to anything". I'm applying your argument...

Semi-confirmable roles is the same thing [as confirmable townies] at this point in the game.

...to an absurd situation (claiming a role which can receive coins) to highlight the flaws within it.

What you are doing is Strawmanning though.

GRRRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAH

*ahem*

Not true. Strawmanning is when you take a twisted form of an opposing argument and then disprove it. As you can see above, I haven't twisted your argument.

Yes. That is what you are doing. He is proven to have a non-standard role, and that is good enough for now. Your argument was "the game rules work, so I must be town", mine is "the game rules don't apply to him, which is a sign his role works as claimed, and usually that is pro-town".

Alright, fair enough. You've proven that my example was flawed. (Also, I apologise for being an ass about it)

But my argument still stands. Why should people who have had aspects of their role confirmed be seen as more likely to be town than those who have not?

[somestrangeflea]

EDWOP: ...potentially anti-town aspects of their role...

[armlx]

But my argument still stands. Why should people who have had aspects of their role confirmed be seen as more likely to be town than those who have not?

Scum are more likely to be vanilla then town, and that specific ability seems very odd for a scum.

Same with perma jail.

[Surye]

But my argument still stands. Why should people who have had aspects of their role confirmed be seen as more likely to be town than those who have not?

Scum are more likely to be vanilla then town, and that specific ability seems very odd for a scum.

Same with perma jail.

Exactly why I noticed how amazingly underpowered the "Yoshi" role is.

[armlx]

Whats your point Surye?