Mini 622 - Mind Screw Mafia - Das ist alles!

[Korts]

Battousai: no, my PM doesn't include any rule, as far as I can gather.

I have a question of my own, though: does everybody's role include a name and something extra in parentheses?

Rules Infraction - Tar

[Korts]

Battousai: no, my PM doesn't include any rule, as far as I can gather.

I have a question of my own, though: does everybody's role include a name and something extra in parentheses?

fos:Korts

. Trying to prepare your fake-claim already, huh?

fos: Yos

you think if I was, I'd know about the parentheses?

[Korts]

OT: yay, new avatar finally uploaded. who knows why it took circa six hours, though?

[Korts]

hmm, well, I seem to noy have a rule in my role, but if this is mindscrew, who really knows?

Come on, it either has one or it doesn't. From Battusai's question I gather it should be pretty obvious.

[Korts]

Yos, if this game's rules bear any resemblance to Tarh's previously modded game's rules, paraphrasing role information shouldn't be a problem:

<4> Quoting private communications (role PM, mason conversations, etc.) or pretending to do the same will result in a modkill. Paraphrasing, however, is not only acceptable but encouraged unless I explicitly say otherwise.

This stance over paraphrasing is entirely subjective from the mod's perspective, therefore I don't think Tarh would radically change his opinion about it in between games.

About the question, you're right, I see it now.

Noone else answer my question

[Korts]

Battousai:No I do not.
And I also don't have a name in a parenthesis.

Also,

Random vote: Yos2

Ok,

FoS MSSK

no explanation at this time.

[Korts]

Nice. So no resemblance between the two sets of rules.

[Korts]

Pot 23 is in reference to me having broken a rule, apparently.

[Korts]

My question wasn't quoting any private communication. I was merely asking about the format of the roles. But it seems stricter role-related rules are being enforced here than in Mostly Mountainous.

Also, iamausername, the vote count is wrong in multiple places.

[Korts]

God this will be annoying later. Anyway. Will post later on, out the door now.

[Korts]

Vote: Macavenger

[Korts]

Musher, it seems so far that the FoS count goes like it should, no twist in the mechanics there. The double FoS on you was to see if both counted.

Also interested if this works:

FoS: everyone

[Korts]

Hey.

I think, with the votes and the actual vote counts together, it's safe to assume that a vote on A that got redirected to B will always be redirected to the same B.

[Korts]

I wonder if the FoS:es mean something. I could imagine stuff like FoS:es actually counting for lynches and the vote being something like kingmaker though, or the person with the most FoS:es at the end of the day losing his vote, or the opposite way around, or any number of possibilities. Should be fun finding out.

Psst. Don't give ideas to the mod.

[Korts]

Point of Order!

"The pattern is self-evident, if only you can see the key."

Is there some obvious pattern we're missing here?

I thought for a moment it was something along mathematical lines, but no luck.

[Korts]

Hey, cool. Good one, Yos. Sooo, back to Battousai's rule, then. I think it would be best if you claimed the rule in your role.

[Korts]

Well, now that we've figured out the pattern, I guess I can get on with voting properly. Oh wait, I already am. Huh.

About the question, you're right, I see it now.

Noone else answer my question

Korts, you say you've realised now that Yos was right and your rolename questioning can only really benefit scum, but what benefit did you think it could have for town when you originally asked?

I pretty much know from role information that everyone has these parentheses. Thus the FoS on MafiaSSK, too.

[Korts]

Let's try something completely different.

Vote: Battle Mage

Wonder if this turns up.

@Yos: Actually, I'm not pushing for a massclaim of any sort now, I just want Battousai to tell us this rule, since it wouldn't hurt town to know at least one.

[Korts]

I am pretty confident if the mod gets the majority votes, someone else will die for him.

[Korts]

Sorry,

Unvote: Macavenger, Vote: Battle Mage

[Korts]

And you want to vote me why?

[Korts]

Fair enough. But I still think it's better for town to know a rule.

[Korts]

Hey, what if we lynched Battle Mage? I wonder.

@Jex, I'm not really sure if that's the rule. If it is, Battousai will confirm it. I also don't like how you're trying to sound uninportant and stay under the radar by adding the last sentence ("Just my two cents").

I think that Korts way of saying that is somewhat suspect, but not enough to warrant a vote from me for that.

That's one twisted sentence. I had to read it three times to understand...

[Korts]

Regarding Korts: there are some oddities in Korts' posts thus far. First of all, he's got a rule infraction. Then there's the thing with the parentheses; asking if people have them, FoS:ing MafiaSSK for not having them, and having role information that everyone have them?

I pretty much know from role information that everyone has these parentheses. Thus the FoS on MafiaSSK, too.

What's "pretty much know"? Do you know this or do you assume it? How sure are you?

"Pretty much know" means about 80-90% sure. I'm not a hundred percent sure, but I think it's more than safe to assume.

I am pretty confident if the mod gets the majority votes, someone else will die for him.

Same question here; do you know this? Do you base it on anything?

With this setup, I'm not 100% confident in anything. YES I base this idea on something, NO I don't feel like telling you what it is I base it on.

Hey, what if we lynched Battle Mage? I wonder.

You were pretty confident about what would happen if we lynched the mod, why not now?

Because in BM's case, I just chose a scummer at random out of those not involved in this game.

Tags repaired - Tar

[Korts]

mod, would you fix my quote tags?

What's done is done. - Tar

[Korts]

Okay, I'll need to sober up before I post sensibel. But it seems activity's slowed down...

Oh yeah, thanks Tar.

[Korts]

Hey, it also seems the FoS count went crazy suddenly. Or I had one too many shots.

Public Humiliation! (but no Rules Infraction) - Tar

[Korts]

Agreed (with Mac)

Vote:Korts

I'd say opportunism, but I guess it was just the second vote and nothing to be too anxious about.

[Korts]

Why is it opportunism if I agree with someone on someone else's scumminess? Why can't we share the same opinion on it, do I have to find something else to vote mafiaSSK on?

True, yes, for starters. But would you think SSK lynchworthy for this single point? This point is purely mafia theory, specialized. And there are infinite points of view in theory.

[Korts]

"Pretty much know" means about 80-90% sure. I'm not a hundred percent sure, but I think it's more than safe to assume.

Well, I disagree, because I don't think it's a good idea to lynch based on what you can assume about other people's role pm's, but I won't stop you from placing higher value in it.

I may be wrong, and I'm certainly not going to lynch over this single point, but the PM was pretty indicative of this format.

With this setup, I'm not 100% confident in anything. YES I base this idea on something, NO I don't feel like telling you what it is I base it on.

Fair enough. Could you answer this though; do you have an in-game reason, or is it strictly meta? I don't expect you to provide the specific reason if it's in-game.

In-game, definitely. I'm not sure how you imagine meta reasoning for the mod's lynch causing someone else's death.

Yes [we should try lynching the mod]. Since town usually doesn't lycnh scum on the first day.

Do not like this.

FoS: MafiaSSK

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For the reason I FoSed him in this post - What he said there was basically akin to suggesting that we should vote No Lynch today because quote "town usually doesn't lycnh scum on the first day", which I'm sure we can all agree is a terrible strategy.

But he didn't actually suggest a no lynch, he suggested lynching the mod. Which, according to Korts (if I understand him correctly) is more like a random lynch. Which is even worse.

Nonono. Not random. A specific player, if I'm right.

[Korts]

Korts: IF you're right, so it's just a theory you have and not based on your role PM?

It's just a theory, but how's that mean it can't be based on my role PM?

[Korts]

Thirteen votecounts. Gotcha.

Cool.

[Korts]

Brilliant! *Doctoresque grin*

Everything is relevant! The role information between the parentheses, the quotes, everything! This is all Tarhalindur's life, or something, and we're all roles from his favorite movies/books/etc. The part between parentheses says (from ...).

I am pretty confident if the mod gets the majority votes, someone else will die for him.

...why would you be "pretty confident" about that?

You want me to tell?

I'm Tarhalindur (from Real Life). I'm not saying any more, but I expect any protective role to be protecting me tonight.

[Korts]

Yeah, I can't justify my call for protection without a full claim. Which I'm not gonna do. So all you doctors out there, just do whatever you want.

[Korts]

Ok, you're right. If I went this far... I just didn't want to claim this early. But I guess getting drunk and spilling your role name isn't helpful these days, so here it is. I'm a Townie Cop, though I don't get alignments through investigation, only role name and place of origin. After this, the (possibly non-existent) doc decide whether to protect me or not.

[Korts]

Gah, I'm really ashamed still... Nice game town, and sorry for getting your cop killed.