Mini 622 - Mind Screw Mafia - Das ist alles!

[Tarhalindur]

Point of Order!

"And if you didn't know that that black holes evaporate due to virtual particles... well, now you do."

The Fifteenth Vote Count (aka the "NUCLEAR LAUNCH DETECTED" Vote Count):

Vote Count:

Korts (2) - iamausername, Macavenger, Battousai
Battousai (0)
Jenter Brolincani (0)
remussaidow (0)
MafiaSSK (3)
Musher333 (0)
Macavenger (0) - Nocmen
Cavebear with a toothache (0)
Jex (0) - remussaidow, cavebear with a toothache
Nocmen (1)
Yosarian2 (0)
iamausername (0)
Tarhalindur (0)
Battle Mage (1) - Korts

Not Voting (5): Jenter Brolincani, MafiaSSK, Musher333, Jex, Yosarian2

Votes required to lynch: ???

FoS Count:

Korts (2) - Yosarian2, Macavenger
Battousai (1) - Macavenger
Jenter Brolincani (0)
remussaidow (0)
MafiaSSK (2) - Korts, iamausername
Musher333 (0)
Macavenger (0) - Korts
Cavebear with a toothache (0)
Jex (0)
Nocmen (0)
Yosarian2 (0)
iamausername (0)

Current Deadline:

???

Next Mod Deadline Review:

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End Point of Order!

[Battousai]

Korts: IF you're right, so it's just a theory you have and not based on your role PM?

[Korts]

Korts: IF you're right, so it's just a theory you have and not based on your role PM?

It's just a theory, but how's that mean it can't be based on my role PM?

[Jenter Brolincani]

Is it just me, or might to words 'Nuclear Launch Detected' indicate a deadline?

I think Korsts has more to give to the game;

vote korts

(MSSK)

[Cavebear with a toothache]

Mod Watch™

"And if you didn't know that that black holes evaporate due to virtual particles... well, now you do."

Information on astrophysics and quantum theories and stuff. Not my field of expertise, but the quote seems to be accurate. Doesn't seem to be a quote from anywhere.

In-game, definitely. I'm not sure how you imagine meta reasoning for the mod's lynch causing someone else's death.

I thought this would be the case, but I just wanted to clarify it. Assumptions are dangerous things.

Nonono. Not random. A specific player, if I'm right.

Oh. Hmm. Still, from my point of view that's similar to random.

Is it just me, or might to words 'Nuclear Launch Detected' indicate a deadline?

With that in mind, the previous such comment suddenly gets a whole new meaning:

The Tenth Vote Count (aka the "...Three Fries Short of a Happy Meal... WACKO!" Vote Count)

Three is the magic number? Three (two, now) more votecounts?

[Jenter Brolincani]

Thirteen votecounts. Gotcha.

[Korts]

Thirteen votecounts. Gotcha.

Cool.

[Macavenger]

Is it just me, or might to words 'Nuclear Launch Detected' indicate a deadline?

In keeping with the rest of the mod's flavor this game, I'd consider it a Starcraft reference. I wouldn't consider it to have any lesser or greater meaning than any of the Matrix or what have you references that have been all over the place.

[Battousai]

I think the quotes can help us, or hurt us, because they seem to be in reference to everyone's roles. For example, there was a Matrix quote talking about Agent Smith, so there might be an Agent Smith among us. If we keep track of all of these quotes, then it *may* be possible to deduce the amount of scum or something like that.

[Tarhalindur]

Point of Order!

"I'm sorry, Dave, I can't let you do that."

The Sixteenth Vote Count (aka the "Okay, Now Where Are the Scum?" Vote Count):

Vote Count:

Korts (2) - iamausername, Macavenger, Battousai, Jenter Brolincani
Battousai (0)
Jenter Brolincani (0)
remussaidow (0)
MafiaSSK (4)
Musher333 (0)
Macavenger (0) - Nocmen
Cavebear with a toothache (0)
Jex (0) - remussaidow, cavebear with a toothache
Nocmen (1)
Yosarian2 (0)
iamausername (0)
Tarhalindur (0)
Battle Mage (1) - Korts

Not Voting (4): MafiaSSK, Musher333, Jex, Yosarian2

Votes required to lynch: ???

FoS Count:

Korts (2) - Yosarian2, Macavenger
Battousai (1) - Macavenger
Jenter Brolincani (0)
remussaidow (0)
MafiaSSK (2) - Korts, iamausername
Musher333 (0)
Macavenger (0) - Korts
Cavebear with a toothache (0)
Jex (0)
Nocmen (0)
Yosarian2 (0)
iamausername (0)

Current Deadline:

???

Next Mod Deadline Review:

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End Point of Order!

[Macavenger]

I think the quotes can help us, or hurt us, because they seem to be in reference to everyone's roles. For example, there was a Matrix quote talking about Agent Smith, so there might be an Agent Smith among us. If we keep track of all of these quotes, then it *may* be possible to deduce the amount of scum or something like that.

Do you really think trying to infer alignment based on role names, even if we could figure them all out, is a good idea in this type of game?

[Nocmen]

Why are we going after MafiaSSK?

Also, I think we have something to benefit from linking the quotes to actual roles.

[Cavebear with a toothache]

Mod Watch™

"I'm sorry, Dave, I can't let you do that."

It's HAL, the screwed-up computer from

2001

. You probably knew that.

Is it just me, or might to words 'Nuclear Launch Detected' indicate a deadline?

In keeping with the rest of the mod's flavor this game, I'd consider it a Starcraft reference. I wouldn't consider it to have any lesser or greater meaning than any of the Matrix or what have you references that have been all over the place.

The difference, seemingly, is that the quotes I've been quoting is what he's said in italics above the vote count. My bad maybe, but the "aka the xxxxx votecount"-quotes haven't been as interesting. At least they weren't at first. A list:

Vote count aka:s

The Zeroth Vote Count (aka the "This is Your Mind on Mind Screw Mafia" Vote Count):
The First Vote Count (aka the "ZOMG Game On!" Vote Count):
The Second Vote Count (aka the "Hmm..." Vote Count):
The Third Vote Count (aka the "What is Happening?" Vote Count):
The Fourth Vote Count (aka the "Keep the Game Moving" Vote Count):
The Fifth Vote Count (aka the "So... Many... Vote Counts!" Vote Count):
The Fifth Vote Count (aka the "Bastard Mod?" Vote Count):
The Sixth Vote Count (aka the "HELLZ YEAH!" Vote Count):
The Sixth Vote Count (aka the "This May Not Be Random After All" Vote Count):
The Seventh Vote Count (aka the "I Love It When a Plan Comes Together" Vote Count):
The Seventh Vote Count (aka the "Wait, Isn't That an Obvious A-Team Remix?" Vote Count):
The Eighth Vote Count (aka the "Did You Say Anything That Would Require Security Clearance?" Vote Count):
The Eighth Vote Count (aka the "Lose It. It Means, Go Crazy... Nuts..." Vote Count):
The Ninth Vote Count (aka the "... Insane... Bonzo... No Longer In Possession of One's Faculties..." Vote Count):
The Tenth Vote Count (aka the "...Three Fries Short of a Happy Meal... WACKO!" Vote Count):
The Eleventh Vote Count (aka the "NUCLEAR LAUNCH DETECTED" Vote Count):
The Eleventh Vote Count (aka the "Okay, Now Where Are the Scum?" Vote Count):

Comments: So we've actually had 17 vote counts, even though we are on number eleven. If there's a pattern for when the official number of the votecount is changed, I don't see it. It doesn't seem to be related to IRL time, at least, and the number of posts in between varies from two to sixteen over the first pages (didn't seem worth it to continue checking after that.)
Some of these quotes are possibly hints and quotes from places (agree about the Starcraft reference for instance), others are seemingly just, well, comments on the game state.

Also, he posts new vote counts even if nobody changes their votes (see for example posts 115-121), so we can't delay this by not changing votes. Possibly by not posting (it'd be interesting to see what happens if we all decide to lurk for a day or two, but I don't think I can recommend that in case the deadline really is approaching; plus, it wouldn't actually do much good, except possibly give people more time to read).

Trying to link the quotes to roles might be useful, but in a setup like this, I wouldn't lynch anyone on it.

[Yosarian2]

Ok, back from starkadium.

@Yos: Actually, I'm not pushing for a massclaim of any sort now, I just want Battousai to tell us this rule, since it wouldn't hurt town to know at least one.

Well, it could hurt the town; dosnt' that depend on what the role is?

I am pretty confident if the mod gets the majority votes, someone else will die for him.

...why would you be "pretty confident" about that?

[Yosarian2]

Interesting. Yos2 has an FoS on him, with no name on it.

Do I? Which vote count was this mentioned in?

[Macavenger]

Interesting. Yos2 has an FoS on him, with no name on it.

Do I? Which vote count was this mentioned in?

It was a vote count error. Think it was the count immediately before I posted that, which got edited afterwords.

[remussaidow]

wow, so has anyone else noticed that this is really not a game of mafia yet? I mean, we've done a bunch of mechanics checks, but that not really playing mafia, that's figuring out a possible way that the votecounting works. seeing as none of us really have any idea who's actually going to be lynched.

I think its time to play mafia again, instead of trying to figure out flavor. Flavor will come with the game, not be part of the game.

Thus, I

FOS: NOCMEN

because I don't remember who I'm supposed to vote for to get my vote to show up on him, and because of his latest statement of trying to link quotes to names would be pretty much a mass claim. in the early game.

[Nocmen]

wow, so has anyone else noticed that this is really not a game of mafia yet? I mean, we've done a bunch of mechanics checks, but that not really playing mafia, that's figuring out a possible way that the votecounting works. seeing as none of us really have any idea who's actually going to be lynched.

I think its time to play mafia again, instead of trying to figure out flavor. Flavor will come with the game, not be part of the game.

Thus, I

FOS: NOCMEN

because I don't remember who I'm supposed to vote for to get my vote to show up on him, and because of his latest statement of trying to link quotes to names would be pretty much a mass claim. in the early game.

I don't think of it as much as a role claim but as instead a name claim. I will say that my name is from a source of one of these quotes.

[remussaidow]

right, but almost every game I've been in where I've had a name, the name made no real difference. However, you're insinuating that the names do indeed make a difference. this would mean that the names would actually have pertinent and currently hidden information involved with them. Thus, it is still a mass claim.

I also never said mass role claim. Any game that I've been in where the names made a difference from one to the next they amounted to the same thing. It was more or a let see how the name system works instead of a let's hunt scum.

[Jex]

I don't find the fact that nocmen asked for a name claim suspicious. He actually brought up a point that I was wondering as well. I don't fully agree that we should all say what our names are because who knows what that might give away. However, I am curious to know how many people have names that line up with one of the quotes that have been posted. I know that mine does, and we know that nocmen does. Does anyone else?

[remussaidow]

ok, I'm alright with the claims so far as Jex has it outlined. Yes, I'm fairly certain that my name comes in line with one of the quotes as well. Not entirely 'cause I don't know the source at all, though.

[MafiaSSK]

I'm fine with name claims. They shouldn't reveal anything bad.

[Tarhalindur]

Point of Order!

"The enemy's gate is down."

Vote Counts Six through Sixteen repaired. - Tar

The Seventeenth Vote Count (aka the "Does the Law of Conservation of Detail Apply?" Vote Count):

Vote Count:

Korts (2) - iamausername, Macavenger, Battousai, Jenter Brolincani
Battousai (0)
Jenter Brolincani (0)
remussaidow (0)
MafiaSSK (4)
Musher333 (0)
Macavenger (0) - Nocmen
Cavebear with a toothache (0)
Jex (0) - remussaidow, cavebear with a toothache
Nocmen (1)
Yosarian2 (0)
iamausername (0)
Tarhalindur (0)
Battle Mage (1) - Korts

Not Voting (4): MafiaSSK, Musher333, Jex, Yosarian2

Votes required to lynch: ???

FoS Count:

Korts (2) - Yosarian2, Macavenger
Battousai (1) - Macavenger
Jenter Brolincani (0)
remussaidow (0)
MafiaSSK (2) - Korts, iamausername
Musher333 (0)
Macavenger (0) - Korts
Cavebear with a toothache (0)
Jex (0)
Nocmen (1) - remussaidow
Yosarian2 (0)
iamausername (0)

Current Deadline:

???

Next Mod Deadline Review:

???

End Point of Order!

[Korts]

Brilliant! *Doctoresque grin*

Everything is relevant! The role information between the parentheses, the quotes, everything! This is all Tarhalindur's life, or something, and we're all roles from his favorite movies/books/etc. The part between parentheses says (from ...).

I am pretty confident if the mod gets the majority votes, someone else will die for him.

...why would you be "pretty confident" about that?

You want me to tell?

I'm Tarhalindur (from Real Life). I'm not saying any more, but I expect any protective role to be protecting me tonight.

[remussaidow]

that last one is ender's game.